Q3A Australia IRC Chat with Paul Steed and Tim Willits

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<Ab_NZ> Good evening to all of you who are joining the channel from Australia and New Zealand this evening, and well... whatever time it is in wherever you're at :) On behalf of PlayNOW, Telstra BigPond, and id Software I welcome you to this online chat with Quake III Arena developers Tim Willits and Paul Steed.

<moderator> Welcome Tim and Paul from ID software, welcome to Australia and Sydney

<Ab_NZ> The way that this channel is moderated is that questions asked in the main window will be visible only to channel ops and our guests; the *really* interesting questions will be pasted in to the main channel window and replied to. On with the Tim and Paul show!

<steed> Yay!

<moderator> <Volrath> #Auditorium.Room01 -> how do u guys like Australia?

<steed> It rocks

<Willits> Oz is really great, we're really excited that so many Australian hardcore fans

<steed> Are you cute?

* Willits slaps Steed

<moderator> <quake-axg-net> #Auditorium.Room01 -> when is the first point release due out and what is included ?

<steed> No

<Willits> id has never officially announced any point release

<moderator> <kensuke> Mr. Willits, I've read Dr Demento's (Stomped) map creating tutorials, but I wasn't quite clear on "caulks" and how they are used?

<Willits> caulks are used behind curves to reduce poly counts in maps

<moderator> <biglife> #Auditorium.Room01 -> r u guyz planning to add some DM maps in the upcoming Quake3 patch?

<steed> I have an Airborne Patch

<Willits> id has never announced the existence of a q3 patch

<moderator> <Whiplash_NZ> #Auditorium.Room01 -> (assuming this gets through) to Steed: Hows the hangover ;)

<steed> I have no Hangover

<steed> I eat lots of honey

<moderator> <Morgoth> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Point Releases - What kind of features will we see implemented? New CTF maps, bug fixes, new weapon models (Lightning Gun) new modes of play?

<steed> and Ozzie girls

<Willits> if id decides to do a point release there'll be an official announcement in which all the questions will be asked

<moderator> <Morgoth> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Will you guys just be in Sydney, or will you make a trip down to Melbourne or any of the other major Australian Cities.

<steed> We trip frequently

<Willits> unfortunately, we'll just be in Sydney - we'd like to get to other cities (and NZ) but we have to get home for xmas

<moderator> <Chunka> #Auditorium.Room01 -> gee, all these intelligent questions ;[ why is there an elephant in q3dm15?

<steed> no we don't

<moderator> <Lobos> #Auditorium.Room01 -> my first question is for steed - I read somewhere that their was a q3a bloopers motion capture reel that steed assembled for the final game, but alas it is not in the game... will we the public ever get to see these funny bloopers? Im sure there is much demand for it :) btw your animation rocks man and i love the game, well worth the money

<steed> Yes, if I go back to texas I will render the bloopers out and make them accessible

<moderator> <choc> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Is the map the only thing you can vote on with the \callvote command? can you vote on fraglimit? and if not could this be addressed in a patch?

<Willits> you can do "ban" and "kick" as well, as well as map restart

<moderator> <X-President> #Auditorium.Room01 -> I was watching a live broadcast of E3 on Pseudo.com and there was an interview with Paul Jaquays and he mentioned that you would include the flamethrower in the full version if it was perfected. Is it perfected and therefore included in the full release?

<steed> Paul is an alien

<Willits> the flamethrower was a medium range weapon which wasn't effective, as people could back off and hit you with any other weapon in the game

<moderator> <LoveRat[GX]> #Auditorium.Room01 -> What about Australian women???

<steed> They rock

<steed> Tight butts

<moderator> <rdwilson> Tim, you said recently in your finger update that you believed that in order to make great maps, they had to be worked on by a team. Many disagree with this and say that maps, such as your own *peerless* dm6 from q1 are best left to the inspiration of one designer alone. How do you respond to this?

<steed> So tim says

<steed> Lalalala

<Willits> the tech and goals of a map are better achieved through group efforts, as seen in the great maps of Quake III Arena

<moderator> <random> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Guys: did you have a taste of VB yet? :)

<steed> Spit or swallow?

<steed> VB rocks

<moderator> <[EvEm]_Styles> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Where is the crosshair health function which was in the test?

<steed> I like it

<steed> Tim stutters

<steed> Tim is slow

<Willits> it was removed to simplify the structure of the game

* Ab_NZ hits steed

<steed> Tim is evasive

<moderator> <fRy> Mr. Willits - What is your favorite map included with Quake3 for 1v1 play? What about team play?

<steed> M willits?

<Dark|Work> hehe

<steed> Smooch

<Willits> for 1-on-1 q3tourney6, and for teamplay q3dm14, and for ffa q3dm9, and for ctf q3ctf4

<moderator> <Slattery> #Auditorium.Room01 -> It has to be asked , will there be a quake 4

<Willits> there will be no Quake 4.

<moderator> <Odie> #Auditorium.Room01 -> About the CD-Key: why allow LAN gaming on 1 CD, but not allow that LAN to play together on the Net with one CD??

<steed> Get your pirate a** off line

<Dark|Work> lol

<Willits> because we felt that piracy is a greater threat on the Internet than is casual piracy

<moderator> <DaRKSTRiKe> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Why was A3D support included as opposed to EAX which is supported by both chipsets (the Live! and A3D)?

<Willits> we thought it was best to stick with one 3D sound standard

<moderator> <yves> oh yea, what happened to that Shauna model, I saw her dancing I think it must have been her taunt/tease, well anyway.. she was really good. Much like the rest of the other models.. oh yea' congrats fellas on Quake3Arena

<steed> Get a gf

<steed> I love ic

<steed> mrs ic

<moderator> <HelPmE> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Hey ID people? why are you slowing down the gameplay as you release more quake games?

<steed> will you have my love child?

<Willits> Quake III Arena is the most intense adrenaline-pumping Quake of them all!

<moderator> <Guest48231> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Weill Q3 be released in Germany at all, or will it go the same way as Q2 did?

<steed> Ya. Wir lieben Deutschland!

<Willits> Q3 has to pass the German censor; luckily you can turn off the blood

<moderator> <[EvEm]_Giblet> #Auditorium.Room01 -> There is a lot of stuff going around about how you guys rushed the release and a few mistakes have been made in the production release. How do u plan to make up for that seeming not everyone (newbies) will get patches.

<Willits> we don't feel the game was rushed at all, and to the best of OUR knowledge there aren't any major bugs

<moderator> <Darx> How lolng will it be before we see official expansion packs?

<steed> six months

<Willits> as quickly as we and other developers can get them finished

<moderator> <DaFragsta> How has the map creation time been affected going from Q2 and Q3A?

<steed> maps?

<Willits> map creation time has almost doubled in Q3 due to the advances in technology with curves and shaders

<moderator> <rdwilson> Willits: regarding your last response about the maps in Q3A, the general concensus of the on-line community is that the maps are somewhat poor for 1on1. Do you plan on releasing an official tourney pack of new 1on1 maps that are player tested, mother approved?

<Willits> for every one person that likes doesn't like the Q3 maps, there's another person that does

<moderator> <|Gozu|-NZ> when will a q3a map editor be released?

<steed> I'm leaving unless we start talking about chicks

<Willits> hopefully an editor will be released within the next couple of weeks

<moderator> <|Frobozz|> #Auditorium.Room01 -> is it true that ID software is out to destroy college finals week? Examples being: Spring semester.. anticipation for the quake3Test which was released around 2:30AM or so - and now with the release of q3A a week before finals... (no hard feelings - I loved the test and love the game!)

<steed> We are out to destroy EVERYTHING productive

<moderator> <Darx> Is it true about the ratio of women to men down there? Do the men have their choice?

<Dark|Work> Steed: What's your favorite character model (in-game)?

<steed> Plenty of women here, mate

<moderator> <Darx> Is it true about the ratio of women to men down there? Do the men have their choice?

<Dark|Work> Thought this was Q3A chat :)

<moderator> <rdwilson> steed: I talked with those girls from Hooters down in Dallas. They said you lied about what happened in your car...

<steed> You were dumb enough to ask. What did you think they would say?

<moderator> <DirtyPunk> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Could it please be asked if Tim has ever read the Sejoy Roy parody paper article about him not existing?

* Ab_NZ hits Steed HARD

<Willits> no, but someone could email that article to me

<moderator> rubbermaid> steed: What's it like to have actual competition with Quake3? Never before has id really had such incredible competition as UT (which obviously is insanely popular).. did this add to the motivation to create an incredible game?

<steed> competition?

<steed> where?

<Dark|Work> lol

<steed> who?

<steed> why?

<steed> was I pissed?

<steed> did I blink?

<moderator> <Crazenberry> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Will you have my child?

<steed> I give.

<moderator> <leck> is the game structured in a way to make mod development easier to code than say quake2?

<steed> yes

<Willits> there were some elements to the game that were easier, such as game load and save

<moderator> <choc> #Auditorium.Room01 -> how about doom 2000 and wolfenstein 3d updated any hints?

<Willits> a version of wolfenstein using the Quake 3 engine is currently in development

<DarkViper> awesome news

<Willits> ...but not by id software, under the DIRECTION of id software

<moderator> <|Gozu|-NZ> steed: you sound pritty confident about competition, what do you think will happen with future competition?

<moderator> <[EvEm]_Styles> #Auditorium.Room01 -> steed, are there any models or skins which you have done, which are suitable for release? will these ever see the light of day?

<steed> kenneth and I plan on releasing a new model a month

<steed> if I go back

<moderator> <yves> oi! PauL, anymore plans on doing more tight assed women models? Personally, there aren't enough Lucy's running around.. fat girls need luvin to you know.. errr' fraggin.

<steed> nick psteed

<moderator> <kensuke> ...I was under the impression that the tin box was the limited edition release (30,000 copies only)

<psteed> Lots o wimmen

<psteed> WHHHOOOHHHOOOOOOO!!!!

<Willits> I believe it is 20,000 worldwide, with 2000 going to AU and NZ

<moderator> <pleb> #Auditorium.Room01 -> how many aussie chicks ya gonna boink steed ?

<psteed> never enuff wimmen

<psteed> not enuff

<moderator> <Lobos> #Auditorium.Room01 -> steed, how soon till you release the female model pack?

<psteed> soon

<psteed> crackwore nun

<psteed> in space

<moderator> <Lobos> #Auditorium.Room01 -> steed, how soon till you release the female model pack?

<psteed> sexy penguins

<psteed> yum

<moderator> Dburnseasytoo> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Dont u think quake 3's weapons are somewhat lacking punch when compared to say quake 1 even (eg. firing rockets feels like blowing puffs of air)

<psteed> no

<moderator> <Staf> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Tim which maps in Q3 are yours?

<psteed> let me hit you

<Willits> I personally believe the Quake 3 weapons rock

<Willits> the ones that are fun :)

<psteed> too many coopers

<psteed> oops

<psteed> not enuff coopers

<Willits> actually, too many people worked on too many maps to accurately say who was solely responsible for what

<moderator> <Joker> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Quake 3 was available to download off the net a few days before it was released, how do you guys feel about that?

<DV|Work> Wonder how he'd know :)

<psteed> I love Oz!

<Willits> it's very unfortunate that software piracy is as bad as it is today... hopefully in the future we'll come up with better software protection

<moderator> <g1zm0> #Auditorium.Room01 -> is Id thinking about hiring another mapper to replace KillMe ?

<psteed> What are you all wearing right now?

<Willits> if you're a good mapper, send me some email - but we're not currently seeking someone new

<moderator> Cueball1> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Have any of you beet Xaero on the nightmare difficulty setting?

<DV|Work> weird peep here tonight

<Willits> I'm the only member of the id team who has beaten Xaero on Hardcore but he beats me on Nightmare

<moderator> Scooby> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Voodoo3 support really sucks right now, will it be improved?

<DV|Work> hehe

<Willits> 3dfx is currently working on improving their drivers

<DV|Work> Steed: What's your favorite character model (in-game)?

<moderator> TLG-Jaymz> Tim: Are mapobjects (such as torches, skulls, gargoyles, etc) .md3's, part of the BSP, or some kind of wierd hybrid? The source .md3's can't be found in the .pk3 file...

<Willits> they're part of the bsp, and the map must be re-vised before they'll show up

<moderator> <Mrs_F_Icecream> #Auditorium.Room01 -> is john carmack a slave driver??

<psteed> I'm too sexy for tim

<Willits> john carmack is a very dedicated person, whom we look up to

<moderator> <TmA_Sky_NZ> #Auditorium.Room01 -> What about your favourite type of alcomahole?

<moderator> <nanook> #Auditorium.Room01 -> steed: tell us about the model Lucy and how she originated...

<psteed> hail damage

<psteed> too many people said I make the models too sexy

<moderator> <Deadstar> #Auditorium.Room01 -> regarding the maps in q3, would idsoftware endorse high quality user maps in the future in an addon such as extremeties?

<psteed> so I made a mesquite woman

<psteed> nevah

<Willits> we currently have non plans for an extremities-type pack, but the possibilities are far from unlikely

<psteed> nope

<psteed> nunca

<psteed> nadia

<Willits> ... so everyone work on making the best mods they can!

<moderator> <kensuke> Mr. Willits, I have to ask how you get that cool lighting effect which makes it look like light is venting down and illuminating dusparticles or somethin'?

<psteed> put down the crack pipe

<Willits> in q3, the architecture has shadows based on the sun direction of the map

<moderator> <Dark|Work> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Steed: What's your favorite character model (in-game)?

<psteed> orbb

<psteed> Major

<psteed> don't like guys

<moderator> en> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Steed: Would you please consider making a Lara Croft model?

<DV|Work> sweet, thanks. Orbb is awesome.

<psteed> naked?

<psteed> okay

<moderator> <Hamburgla> #Auditorium.Room01 -> is "I 0wn iD software" the hell pickup line?

<Ab_NZ> yes he is :)

<psteed> My name is bill

<Willits> that's funny :)

<psteed> define drunk

<moderator> <centaura> #Auditorium.Room01 -> do all the models have the same hit radius area, or are the larger models going to be turkey shoots?

<psteed> same

<psteed> be nicer to me

<psteed> send money

<moderator> <[EvEm]_Styles> #Auditorium.Room01 -> can we have some more ctf maps that arent based on dm ones?

<psteed> send real dolls

<psteed> to tim

<psteed> sigh

<Willits> expect to see more CTF maps in the future, from the community - and maybe from us

<moderator> <Python> Willits: i heard the curves surfaces were done by adding numbers into equations.....is this true?

<psteed> I like curves

<psteed> bezier curves are interpolated based on the median distance calculated from the square root of the hypotenuse of the waist size of Simon

<moderator> <Merc-n-NaT> Q: Will there ever be the ability to apply localized skins to a model in game, for instance, blood a la GoldenEye on N64?*** Willits is now known as Ab_NZ

<Ab_NZ> !!!!!!!!

<Willits> maybe we'll see that in a licensee's product

<moderator> <Joker> #Auditorium.Room01 -> The biggest Quake1 duel comp, Smegged is being held in Sydney on Saturday you guys should stick around ;)

<psteed> I like curves

<Willits> we'll see what we can do - and we already knew it was on :)

<moderator> <ArchAngeLl> How much bigger are the map area's now.. in Q2 it was very limited

<moderator> <Morgoth> #Auditorium.Room01 -> The mod/map creation tools were hinted at for being released today, will they be released today, or will we have to wait a few more days?

<psteed> bigger is better

<psteed> size matters

<psteed> if she says it doesn't she's being polite

<Willits> the map creation tools will be released in a few days (hopefully!)

<moderator> <quake-axg-net> #Auditorium.Room01 -> who made the decision for the music.. and how did you guys take the fact that trent renzor rejected you ? but FLA is a great choice

<psteed> she doesn't really love you

<psteed> she's being polite

<Willits> trent reznor was busy doing a record... the decision on music was a group one

<psteed> Trent loves us

<moderator> <DAB^18> #Auditorium.Room01 -> r u guys like .. answering questions or something ?

<moderator> <QuaDe> #Auditorium.Room01 -> There were possible plans for a "High Res" mode just for GeForce Cards, what happened to that?

<moderator> <mugen> <mugen> Steed your SEX CRAZED

<psteed> pose valid questions

<psteed> thankyu

<Willits> if you have a GeForce you can play the game at a much higher res and it should play well

<moderator> <[EvEm]_Giblet> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Steed: on loonygames, your section 'thinking outside the box' is really good. Will this section ever grace specific tutorials about modelling Q3 models to do with bounding boxes and the likes?

<psteed> gayforce?

<psteed> I've change thinking outside the box to thinking about boxes

<moderator> <Aracheon> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Steed: Do u try and distance your self from the "geek" haze around games?

<psteed> I explore the validity of modeling with primitives

<Willits> steed is very good at distancing himself from the geek haze around games

<psteed> define geek

<moderator> <YoYoMa-> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Will there be improvements to the CTF? i.e- seeing all the players on one page, when the flag is taken and returned, etc..?? ask this :)

<Willits> yes, we're looking at improving the scoreboard for CTF *and* FFA, but don't ask for a date when that'll be done

<moderator> <Staf> #Auditorium.Room01 -> what kinda music do you guys listen to while quaking?

<psteed> I protest this chat in the name of humor

<Willits> depressing girly music

<psteed> zombi

<moderator> <Achilles`> #Auditorium.Room01 -> What display settings do you guys play at?

<moderator> <Broker> hi ya

<psteed> zeppelen

<psteed> moans

<Willits> everyone at id plays in 640x480

<moderator> <Merc-n-NaT> Q: To what extent is the model and map coding implemented in the entity DLL, and can the model structure be essentially reprogrammed to accommodate 3rd party mods? Or will that be a licensee thing?

<moderator> please dont continually repeat the same question

<psteed> what am I?

<psteed> chopped model liver?

<Willits> using the virtual machine, mod users will be able to create almost anything they want using the Quake 3 engine - we've worked very hard at making this game easy to modify

<moderator> <mugen> Steed are your going to release a book on 3D modelling & animation in 3DSMAX

<psteed> yep

<moderator> <HANGxUPS> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Steed, I remember you mentioning writing a book on low poly modeling, so how is it coming along?

<psteed> halfway done

<Willits> steed is having a hard time finding the keys due to alcohol

<moderator> <Achilles`> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Did you guys think about putting in voice taunts like in UT?

<DV|Work> ahh

<psteed> tim is fondling me

<psteed> can't concentrate

<Willits> yes, we tried it - and we found that it was quite annoying

<moderator> <Staf> #Auditorium.Room01 -> paul I remember reading about you training when ya get the chance, you still doing it? If so how much ya benching?

<psteed> 295

<moderator> <chiQ> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Steed: have you tried any other modelling tools like Rhino?

<psteed> Camilla, I'll tell you tomorrow

<psteed> naked

<moderator> <[EvEm]_Styles> #Auditorium.Room01 -> steed can you release a stickman model with VERY low polys?

<psteed> sure

<moderator> <kensuke> ...I'd really like to congratulate you guys on behalf of Oz...doesn't happen often...we're deprived.

<psteed> with breasts?

<Willits> thanks, we like being here

<moderator> <Guest49187> #Auditorium.Room01 -> my ping rate comes up as 999 all the time, is there any way to alter that? I have a 56k modem

<Willits> check your modem rate, and make sure that your system is not exceeding 100fps

<moderator> <hermosa> #Auditorium.Room01 -> are you guys planning to hit nightspots while you are here?

<psteed> hey.

<psteed> anyone know if surfergirl is a girl?

<psteed> is she cute?

<moderator> <Merc-n-NaT> Q: With model tags, can vertices be "welded" as if they were local to both .MD3's, for model 'grafting' between tags?

<psteed> too general

<psteed> tags are very defined and specific

<moderator> <Judge> Steed, I really like the slash/yuriko character. Did you do her?

<psteed> Are you a dumbass?

<moderator> <LoveRat[GX]> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Can you make some male models with *ahem* codpieces - an evil Knight like??

<psteed> exit only

<moderator> <Skapokalypse> Steed, how many models is the chick pack gonna include?

<psteed> I'm secure in my homophobia

<psteed> thanks

<moderator> <Skullhunter> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Steed: Definitely like the volumetric fog thing, but is there a way to make it displaceable, by explosions and such?

<psteed> ask tim

<Willits> ah, no

<moderator> <[EvEm]_Giblet> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Steed: Is the bounding box for modelling a problem? Can u make like Styles said, a stick figure, wouldnt that make it too hard to hit

<psteed> bb is same for all chars

<moderator> <random> #Auditorium.Room01 -> aren't you affraid of the Echelon watching your every move right now? they might be busting thru your doors right now!!! :)

<psteed> wtf?

<DV|Work> er

<psteed> bite me

<moderator> <JemHadar> #Auditorium.Room01 -> How come in Q3, when you get a lag spike, it just freezes, while in q1/2, it still runs for a second or so in prediction mode or something?

<Willits> it's due to client side prediction in waiting for the server to update your position

<moderator> <Lines> could you outline the process you take from the creation of a model in max to implementing it in quake3

<moderator> Okay.

<moderator> Now I am in charge - steed

<Willits> thanks everyone for coming online - Steed is about to take over the chat... Steed is taking over the moderation for the chat

* Malby points to moderator. thats steed!

<Ab_NZ> oh god

<steed> Hehehehe

<DV|Work> uh oh

<DV|Work> more like ruhroh

<steed> Ask me something meaningful

<Malby> what is the meaning of life?

<DV|Work> What is the meaning of.. gaming?

<DV|Work> er :)

<steed> life is about shagging

<steed> questions?

<Ab_NZ> <Whiplash_NZ> #Auditorium.Room01 -> steed: Has Ab p1mped you out yet, or are you getting chicks on your own? ;)

<steed> bite me

<DV|Work> haha

<steed> again

<steed> I'm really a dwarf

<DV|Work> sure sure

<steed> I always pay chicks

<Ab_NZ> <Mrs_F_Icecream> #Auditorium.Room01 -> steed: so what are *you* wearing? *wink*

<steed> Underroos

<DV|Work> Malby: ltns man

<steed> See-thru

<Malby> Stead: UT is Pimping q3, why?

<Malby> <Astram> steed: I bet you've come across plenty of 'polite' women in your time?

<steed> define polite

<steed> fat?

<steed> big bottie

<Malby> <_bLaZe_> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Quake3's biggest draw card over Ut is its name

<Malby> <kensuke> ...I got flamed...by a self confessed newbie just for saying that Q3A kicks UTs dated ass...

<Ab_NZ> <WhereIsTim> #Auditorium.Room01 -> Paul: What happened to all the cool reflective and animated textures that were in the demo TEST?

<steed> what happened to the good questions?

<Willits> they should be there - check your system

<Ab_NZ> <[EvEm]_Styles> #Auditorium.Room01 -> is it possible to put reflective surfaces on a model?

<steed> yep

<Ab_NZ> wow, cool

<steed> any map efect can be applied to a model

<DV|Work> Tim: Great work on the levels.. won't be seeing you in Dallas Thursday, so I wanted to comment ahead of time :)

<Ab_NZ> <Mikkle> #Auditorium.Room01 -> What have been the positive effects of bringing in Graeme Devine as game designer? I noticed he is staying very much in touch with the community

<steed> Graeme is tim's lover

<Willits> Graeme is a very talented game designer and is going to lead our next project

<DV|Work> awesome!

<Ab_NZ> TWillits is holding his head in his hands

<DV|Work> OMG

<DV|Work> who cut his head off?

<DV|Work> hehe

<steed> what do you think of the chars?

<DV|Work> Characters? They ()wn, you should know that ;)

<steed> footsteps are very important

<Ab_NZ> <Jozza> #Auditorium.Room01 -> cinematics r outta this world

<steed> I will be releasing a 'how to' on getting your models into the game soon

<steed> thanks!

<DV|Work> :)

<Ab_NZ> <DaFragsta> How hard will it be to train the bots for user created maps?

<Willits> super-simple - all you run is a bot-area file program; you do not place waypoints

<steed> easy

<DV|Work> awesome

<Ab_NZ> <Joker> #Auditorium.Room01 -> What do you guys think Dikatana will be like whne its released?

<steed> cough

<steed> grab crotch

<steed> turn left

<steed> cough

<Ab_NZ> OK it's 9.00 pm guys and I don't think Echelon will let Steed stay online any longer

<steed> I wish to say goodbye

<DV|Work> doh

<Ab_NZ> there's a bashing on the door and teargas is coming in the airconditioning... a bad sign. Time to sign off

<steed> thanks for putting up with that letch Tim and I

<steed> Luv and kisses

<steed> ps

<Willits> bye!

<Ab_NZ> On behalf of PlayNOW, Telstra BigPond, NZGames.com, and id software, thanks for coming along! Tim and Paul have had a great time chatting with us all I'm sure, and we hope you've all enjoyed yourselves. Thanks for coming along, and we look forward to seeing you at the Q3A launch event tomorrow night in Sydney!

Session Close: Tue Dec 14 02:02:25 1999