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Messatsu Ko Jy-ouu
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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 06:04 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


MS's Creative Director weighs in on the "always online"-approach to games and most notably the Xbox720.
http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news ... mours.html

almost as good of a PR as EA's Simcity dabacle:

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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 06:11 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lol stupidity makes the world's comedy go round...




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 06:14 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Hahahaha that's so fucked up its hilarious




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They actually designed the thing to be rendered completely useless in case of internet droppage..? He's not just talking about certain services or games?

If that's the case it's going to cost them a massive amount of sales, well played.



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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 06:26 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lol he's not done yet

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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 06:35 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


king backpedal

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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 06:38 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ryoki wrote:
They actually designed the thing to be rendered completely useless in case of internet droppage..? He's not just talking about certain services or games?

If that's the case it's going to cost them a massive amount of sales, well played.


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read that, don't quite buy it.
Remember the X-Tablet "source"? it also says other sources say they have no knowledge of a required connection nor did they need one.

also, you can actually read the SDK description and while it says the device has an optional "low power mode" that will keep the internetconnection running so that it can get updates (similar to what the Wii did), nowhere does it say it's required.

the 'troll'-tweets don't bode well tho




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 07:03 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


he won't need a vacuum cleaner with how much the nextbox will suck, amirite?




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 07:06 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Not entirely, no.
No always on is a winner - it'll be powerful and Kinect is awesome currently, so a higher def version could be game changing




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 08:00 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Console gaming is becoming more and more convoluted. I'll opt out of the next gen. Also, it's becoming more and more sensible to not be a day one buyer for new hardware. I was with Wii and Nintendo DS, but I'm glad I waited half a year before deciding if I wanted a 3DS and not rushing out to the stores to buy a WiiU. Especially with the Wii U, shit has been published about it after the release, like content lockouts before 11pm, extreme load times, extreme update times, crappy Wii backwards compatibility, many games simply not coming to the platform, etc etc.



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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 08:04 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Also, the arrogance of this MS rep is unbelievable.



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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 10:14 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What a shock, terrible Microsoft PR!

If this rumor turns out to be true, then fuck MS, I'll get a PS4. I'm already leaning Sony's way, anyway, since the new Xbox is rumored to require the use of the Kinect. I'm not waving my hands around like I have downs syndrome just to navigate menus when I could simply flick my thumb across a controller's analog stick. :down:



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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 11:01 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


So dumb the way u gotta hold your hand up with kinect until circle completes...also the delay is very cool...




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 12:48 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Transient wrote:
What a shock, terrible Microsoft PR!

If this rumor turns out to be true, then fuck MS, I'll get a PS4. I'm already leaning Sony's way, anyway, since the new Xbox is rumored to require the use of the Kinect. I'm not waving my hands around like I have downs syndrome just to navigate menus when I could simply flick my thumb across a controller's analog stick. :down:

err, the ps4 comes with their own version of kinect.
all it says is that kinect comes bundled with the console, and is required to be connected for it to function.
no sign of a mandatory kinect integration type dealio for developers like with the DS stylus way back then.




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 12:54 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Microsoft responds;

Quote:
“We are aware of the comments made by an employee on Twitter. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views are not reflective of those of the company. We have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter.”


someone might not be getting his yearly bonus.




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 01:00 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


@adam_orth's tweets are protected.

lol, damage control.



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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 01:25 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Hopefully they will see the error of their thoughts and not make it always on




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 02:16 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Don Carlos wrote:
Hopefully they will see the error of their thoughts and not make it always on


Not when they want you doing microtransactions every 12.5 minutes...




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 02:24 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


MKJ wrote:
Transient wrote:
What a shock, terrible Microsoft PR!

If this rumor turns out to be true, then fuck MS, I'll get a PS4. I'm already leaning Sony's way, anyway, since the new Xbox is rumored to require the use of the Kinect. I'm not waving my hands around like I have downs syndrome just to navigate menus when I could simply flick my thumb across a controller's analog stick. :down:

err, the ps4 comes with their own version of kinect.
all it says is that kinect comes bundled with the console, and is required to be connected for it to function.
no sign of a mandatory kinect integration type dealio for developers like with the DS stylus way back then.

I just don't want to be forced to pay extra for a peripheral I'll never use. Or waste space hooking the thing up just to collect dust.



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Transient wrote:
MKJ wrote:
err, the ps4 comes with their own version of kinect.
all it says is that kinect comes bundled with the console, and is required to be connected for it to function.
no sign of a mandatory kinect integration type dealio for developers like with the DS stylus way back then.

I just don't want to be forced to pay extra for a peripheral I'll never use. Or waste space hooking the thing up just to collect dust.


I remember this VS the wifi and the Xbox eventually grew one, but I think we can say it's got to the point where it takes the piss. Finding a dusty kinect and wiimote is quite common with my lot and would much prefer however little money they've spent on that given back in savings or spent elsewhere :/.

Always online tho ?, ha ha fucking ha. If Sony have any funny ideas (which you know they will) and this is true then I think we should force SEGA into making consoles again. At gunpoint if need be.

I can't see them being that stupid though, unless everyone's like the employee that went from being an asshole to looking the clown, lol tit.



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Transient wrote:
I just don't want to be forced to pay extra for a peripheral I'll never use. Or waste space hooking the thing up just to collect dust.

but you're willing to get a ps4, which also comes with a camera?




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PostPosted: 04-05-2013 11:22 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


If it's not mandatory, then at least it can stay in the box. If it is, then fuck both of 'em.



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MKJ wrote:
Microsoft responds;

Quote:
“We are aware of the comments made by an employee on Twitter. This person is not a spokesperson for Microsoft, and his personal views are not reflective of those of the company. We have not made any announcements about our product roadmap, and have no further comment on this matter.”


someone might not be getting his yearly bonus.

They aren't denying an always online requirement either...



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Transient wrote:
If it's not mandatory, then at least it can stay in the box. If it is, then fuck both of 'em.

but you're still forced to pay extra for something you'll never use. which was your initial point.
#dealwithit




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Eraser wrote:
They aren't denying an always online requirement either...

true.
then again, they never officially announced a new console either. in the PR world, MS only has 2 consoles, the xbox and the xbox360.




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MKJ wrote:
Transient wrote:
If it's not mandatory, then at least it can stay in the box. If it is, then fuck both of 'em.

but you're still forced to pay extra for something you'll never use. which was your initial point.
#dealwithit

Yeah, but I was leaning Sony's way to begin with. If they both want me to buy extra shit, then I'm right back where I started. I suppose I could always just stick with my PC and wait for prices to come down and options to open up. There's no real reason to buy a console on day 1 anymore. :shrug:



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PostPosted: 04-06-2013 09:42 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That makes sense.




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Transient wrote:
There's no real reason to buy a console


MKJ wrote:
That makes sense.




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Even more sense



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PostPosted: 04-06-2013 11:37 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Consoles r for kiddies and morons...which r u?...




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scared? wrote:
Consoles r for kiddies and morons...which r u?...


ur the moron



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PostPosted: 04-07-2013 01:49 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You're...




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