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Glayven?
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PostPosted: 08-13-2012 12:43 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Three dead in shooting near Texas A&M campus

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Three people, including a police officer and the suspected gunman, are dead following a shooting near the Texas A&M campus in College Station on Monday, police and university officials say. Four others, including three police officers and a female civilian, were wounded.

According to the College Station Police Department, the gunman was shot and taken into custody. The gunman later died, a police spokesman told the Dallas Morning News' crime blog. A male civilian also died in the "gunfight," police said.


So I'm guessing when everyone in that stupid country has been shot to death then maybe they'll discuss their gun problem like adults?

Nah....nobody around to talk to after that. Problem solved.




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PostPosted: 08-13-2012 01:22 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


doesn't geoffrey live in college station?

now we know why he hasn't posted all day :olo:




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PostPosted: 08-13-2012 02:03 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


fucking lol

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Doctors target gun violence as a social disease
There's sort of a contagion phenomenon" after a shooting, where people feel they need to have a gun for protection or retaliation, he said.
That's already evident in the wake of the Colorado movie-theater shootings. Last week, reports popped up around the nation of people bringing guns to "Batman" movies. Some of them said they did so for protection.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/sto ... 56979706/1




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PostPosted: 08-13-2012 02:35 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Fucking retards.



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PostPosted: 08-14-2012 02:26 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


constitutional right to bare an assault rifle that shoots 100 rounds a minute to shoot a moose.
poor mooses, antlers all fucked up and shit.



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PostPosted: 08-14-2012 03:26 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, it's clearly the guns that are the problem. Just look at Switzerland, what with all the "assault rifles" the males are required to have. Their gun crime rates are...hey wait a fucking minute, the Swiss gun crime rate is so low they don't even keep stats.


IT'S NOT THE GUNS, YOU FUCKING RETARDS.




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Indeed. It's guns and responsibility. Since Americans lack the latter, they cannot be trusted with the former. But we went over this discussion before.

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I'm just curious, Nightshade. What is your explanation for the obvious gun violence problem the US has? Why do assault rifles appear to be a problem in the US, but not in Switzerland? Oh wait, you're in the "America has no gun problem" crowd, no?



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PostPosted: 08-14-2012 05:08 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Nightshade wrote:
IT'S NOT THE GUNS, YOU FUCKING RETARDS.


You're right....it's the crazy people. And in case you missed it, the last 3 massacres were done with legal guns.




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PostPosted: 08-14-2012 06:58 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


If y'all hate America so much, then stop supporting us. Stop watching our movies, playing our games, and fucking our men...




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PostPosted: 08-14-2012 07:15 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
...and fucking our men...


:olo:




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PostPosted: 08-14-2012 07:25 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


We should all be allowed to have nuclear bombs.
You know, for fun, exploding them in places they won't do any harm, hehe. I'm a responsible person.
Fuck anyone trying to take away my goddamned rights >:(




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xer0s wrote:
If y'all hate America so much, then stop supporting us. Stop watching our movies, playing our games, and fucking our men...


Fucking lol!!!

You yanks are killing each other off with hate and anger everyday. We aren't the haters. We're just watching and laughing.

xer0s...the perfect example of American stupidity. USA! USA! USA!




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xer0s wrote:
If y'all hate America so much, then stop supporting us. Stop watching our movies, playing our games, and fucking our men...


Dear America

If you're going to be a massive douche, we'd like our language back thanks

signed

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Eraser wrote:
Indeed. It's guns and responsibility. Since Americans lack the latter, they cannot be trusted with the former. But we went over this discussion before.

edit:
I'm just curious, Nightshade. What is your explanation for the obvious gun violence problem the US has? Why do assault rifles appear to be a problem in the US, but not in Switzerland? Oh wait, you're in the "America has no gun problem" crowd, no?


Hmm, so I guess the tens of millions of legal gun owners in the US that DON'T kill people every day aren't responsible? No, see, SOME Americans aren't responsible enough to own or have access to guns. Taking away the rights of the majority due to failures of a very small number of idiots/crazies is, uh, what am I trying to say here, um, oh yeah FUCKING STUPID.

I have no new arguments here, nothing has changed. The explanation I have for the rate of gun violence in the US is that people want to kill each other. They use guns to do it. If we could suddenly remove all guns from the planet, guess what would happen? People would still be killing each other, they would just find other ways to do it. Why is that so hard for people to get? Gun crime is the SYMPTOM, not the PROBLEM. America doesn't have a "gun problem", America has socio-economic, educational, and parenting problems. America has shitty mental healthcare system problems. This leads a small number of individuals to kill people with firearms. Fix the aforementioned problems and we'll just be a fatter, slightly dumber version of Switzerland.




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PostPosted: 08-15-2012 08:40 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
Dear America

If you're going to be a massive douche, we'd like our language back thanks

signed

England


Odd, I don't see Iceman321 using anything resembling English there, so what are you on about?

Fuck you, close bracket.




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PostPosted: 08-15-2012 08:50 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


it was a reference to his boo-hoo-you-criticise-america-yet-you-watch-our-movies-herp-a-derp logic, illustrating the stupidity of said 'logic'




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 08-15-2012 09:04 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, duh. There's nothing wrong with my English...




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Glayven?
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Nightshade wrote:
Eraser wrote:
Indeed. It's guns and responsibility. Since Americans lack the latter, they cannot be trusted with the former. But we went over this discussion before.

edit:
I'm just curious, Nightshade. What is your explanation for the obvious gun violence problem the US has? Why do assault rifles appear to be a problem in the US, but not in Switzerland? Oh wait, you're in the "America has no gun problem" crowd, no?


Hmm, so I guess the tens of millions of legal gun owners in the US that DON'T kill people every day aren't responsible? No, see, SOME Americans aren't responsible enough to own or have access to guns. Taking away the rights of the majority due to failures of a very small number of idiots/crazies is, uh, what am I trying to say here, um, oh yeah FUCKING STUPID.

I have no new arguments here, nothing has changed. The explanation I have for the rate of gun violence in the US is that people want to kill each other. They use guns to do it. If we could suddenly remove all guns from the planet, guess what would happen? People would still be killing each other, they would just find other ways to do it. Why is that so hard for people to get? Gun crime is the SYMPTOM, not the PROBLEM. America doesn't have a "gun problem", America has socio-economic, educational, and parenting problems. America has shitty mental healthcare system problems. This leads a small number of individuals to kill people with firearms. Fix the aforementioned problems and we'll just be a fatter, slightly dumber version of Switzerland.


ffs dude there is just so much bs in this post I don't know where to start.

I'm at work so I'll reply better later but I would like to point out the ONLY reason people in Switzerland have guns is because the whole country is basically a militia: they have guns to protect themselves from foreign threats...not each other, not for "personal protection against burglars". So please...with sugar on top...could you and your NRA friends shut the fuck up about Switzerland's gun laws when the spirit of their law (at least in modern times) is completely different than the average American.




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xer0s wrote:
Yeah, duh. There's nothing wrong with my English...


There is, however, something wrong with your head. Fact.




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PostPosted: 08-15-2012 09:14 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Vicious...




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PostPosted: 08-15-2012 09:15 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Moron...




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You can't mow down 17 people and injure dozens other with a knife. Also, no one needs a fully automatic assault rifle for 'personal protection'.
For that matter, no one really needs any sort of firearm for personal protection. I wonder how many of the gun crazy folk ever had real need of a firearm.



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PostPosted: 08-15-2012 09:58 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
You can't mow down 17 people and injure dozens other with a knife.


Have you not seen Kill Bill?




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PostPosted: 08-15-2012 10:18 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


GONNAFISTYA wrote:
Moron...


lol, dude, you're so serious. Can't you lighten up a bit?




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GONNAFISTYA wrote:

ffs dude there is just so much bs in this post I don't know where to start.

I'm at work so I'll reply better later but I would like to point out the ONLY reason people in Switzerland have guns is because the whole country is basically a militia: they have guns to protect themselves from foreign threats...not each other, not for "personal protection against burglars". So please...with sugar on top...could you and your NRA friends shut the fuck up about Switzerland's gun laws when the spirit of their law (at least in modern times) is completely different than the average American.


Yes, of course, it's bullshit because you don't agree with it. I notice that, as usual, you don't address anything I actually said about root causes or indeed anything regarding the substance of my arguments. You just pick out the things you feel you can bray the loudest about and ignore the rest. FFS, you're as bad as my ex-wife. :olo:




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Eraser wrote:
You can't mow down 17 people and injure dozens other with a knife. Also, no one needs a fully automatic assault rifle for 'personal protection'.
For that matter, no one really needs any sort of firearm for personal protection. I wonder how many of the gun crazy folk ever had real need of a firearm.


Hmm, where have I heard these tired-ass "arguments" before? Oh, that's right, from every single statist, ultra-lefty, "someone else will always be there to protect me" fool I've ever met.

1. A person can kill a SHITLOAD of people by driving their car into a crowd. So we need to ban cars.

2. No one said a thing about fully automatic weapons. Unless you have a specific federal license, you cannot purchase fully automatic weapons. Ergo, the average American can't get full-auto hardware. But even with semi-auto weapons, you don't have the right to tell me what I do or do not need to protect myself and my family.

3. No one needs any sort of firearm? Well, perhaps in a perfect world, but the last time I checked, that's not where we live. I'll guarantee that if someone broke into your house with a machete or something equally deadly, you'd most certainly want a gun. But, according to you, you don't need one. Better hope the cops get there fast.




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Nightshade wrote:
I notice that, as usual, you don't address anything I actually said about root causes or indeed anything regarding the substance of my arguments.


I addressed part of it in the other thread...specifically the mental health issue.




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PostPosted: 08-15-2012 11:46 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


From what I can tell gun law in the US is just as strict, or possibly even more so than Britain ?, hasn't Canada similar laws also ?, doesn't that say gun ownership isn't the problem but something else ?

The US seem to be a bit mental with their guns, coppers draw them for no reason and have accidents quite frequently then there's the person they're pulling over for a traffic violation popping off shots like hes in counterstrike. Other countries like us probably have the same issues with violence, we have our fair share of murder without guns and seeing as our coppers can only carry pepper spray the worst accident they can have is a bout of tears, but we don't feel the need to carry a gun like I suppose someone would in the US so when they go on their rampage they're left with tools they have in their shed. Why do yanks feel the need to pack some heat ?, if its all down to defending ones home then that's like advertising paranoia and nonsense ?, that's the coppers job and the only real reason for anyone owning a gun is hunting ?, I cant see everyone in the US that owns a gun being a hunter so maybe access to guns should be restricted ?

If Britain didn't have a drinking problem I'm pretty sure we'd end up like you mind, I think ill forward that too Camemoron next time he decides to raise beer tax



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losCHUNK wrote:
From what I can tell gun law in the US is just as strict, or possibly even more so than Britain ?, hasn't Canada similar laws also ?, doesn't that say gun ownership isn't the problem but something else ?


Answers to this question here...

http://www.bradycampaign.org/facts/gunsinamerica

http://www.bradycampaign.org/studies/view/185/
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What does it say?

States with higher gun ownership and weaker gun laws have more gun deaths while states with a lower percentage of households with guns and strong gun laws have lower numbers of gun deaths.




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The rest of my post goes on to say that gun ownership isn't the problem but access to firearms is :), might sound retarded but im treating it like 2 sides of the same coin :)



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xer0s wrote:
If y'all hate America so much, then stop supporting us. Stop watching our movies, playing our games, and fucking our men...


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Nightshade, the car argument is moronic and you know it.
Also, you didn't specify how often a gun was absolutely needed or has enforced a positive outcome in a situation where no gun would have worse consequences. I mean, what are the chances of you coming eye-to-eye with an armed burglar, especially if you consider there is no legal means for the burglar to acquire a weapon, let alone a gun. Also, out of all of those situations, in how many cases is the use of a gun the only viable option, or even the safest?

I think the chance that I get harmed by a burglar in the Netherlands is much, much smaller than the chance that you get shot by a (legal) gun in the US.



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lol, uhm anyone remember that american tourist in canada? remember when he was so filled with fear and insecurity that he INSTINCTIVELY reached for his gun when two strangers approached him, but his gun wasn't there (thank the fucking jesus). I mean seriously, you think this scenario is not indicative of the fact that gun owners are fucking ignorant and trigger happy? That was a rhetorical question don't bother to give me your opinion.... a bunch of socially introverted, arrogant cave duelers they are.

Carrying a gun around intoxicates you with power, and debilitates your ability for rational thought.
All other rational options go out of the window a magnitude faster. When your first instinct is to reach for your gun under any scenario other than you feeling 100% safe and in control, it's time to realize you have a problem.

I said it before and I'll say it again. If you're gonna live under a rock all your life, atleast keep your guns in your own home for protecting your family from intruders. If you're too fearful and suspicious of everything around you, maybe you should just stay home, and don't interact with the rest of society. Problem solved.




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Can you carry a gun round in the street ?, I thought it was restricted to properties ?

Its quite a sweeping assumption though that people are intoxicated by the power of a gun, but i'm sure it happens, a person escalating the situation because he feels in control but that's why access should be restricted from these people innit :), owning a firearm for defence is fucking retarded imo, if you're put in a situation where you need a gun ill say you're pretty much fucked already or looking for trouble.



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yes you can carry a gun around these here parts.../spits
granted you have the proper paperwork... which is really not hard to get.

ps
If you choose to carry a gun in public , then yes you have an issue with power intoxication.

pps
Also I just noticed on that other thread that GKY too suggested Nightshade should just stay home, which is funny cause I came to the same conclusion.




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