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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 07:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Well the t.v. networks started a year ago. It's 7 months away and we only know one major candidate for sure but there's still a lot to talk about. So...

Who will be Republican nominee and who will be elected president?

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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 07:19 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I think Ron honestly deserves a chance. If only because everyone else running will absolutely fucking hate it :up:
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 07:40 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lol staged elections are cute...
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 08:15 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


what country is this happening in again?
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 08:20 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I don't think enough people can decide on a single alternative to Obama for him to lose. I'll still be voting him.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 08:21 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


voting like u think it matters...lol dumb ppl!...
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 08:22 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Obama-Romney, 1-0. So predictable.
I bet a lot of republicans are even going to vote Obama, just because Romney is so void of...anything.




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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 08:24 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You don't vote, Geoff?
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 08:28 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I stopped after bush/Kerry... it's over until revolution...
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 08:34 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Your capitalisation of Kerry, and not bush, suggests you voted Kerry.
But seriously, only after that election you came to the conclusion your vote doesn't matter?
What a moron :olo: I got wise to that shit when I was like 6.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 08:49 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


i came to that conclusion way before...i just wanted a different figure head in there besides bush...
just for the entertainment value, i suppose it would be more fun with a total crazy person...

so in the future if a total nutter has a chance i will prolly vote for him...
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 09:49 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


My stance is if you don't vote, you can't complain. If the system is rigged, and you don't vote, you still have no stake in the matter anyways.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 09:56 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


bitWISE wrote:
If the system is rigged, and you don't vote, you still have no stake in the matter anyways.


huh? If the system is rigged, recourse has to found be outside the system of elections, no?
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 10:07 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


RIOT!



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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 10:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


bitWISE wrote:
My stance is if you don't vote, you can't complain.


ur a colossal moron...the opposite is true....if u voted for the moronsu need stfu...
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It's all retarded muppetry, but Romney gets the nomination, Obama wins. Nothing changes, we're all still fucked.

What scares me the most is how many people support Santorum and Gingrich. I thought Palin supporters were bad, but fuck me in the goat ass, this crowd is a bunch of rampaging batshit loonballs.
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
bitWISE wrote:
If the system is rigged, and you don't vote, you still have no stake in the matter anyways.


huh? If the system is rigged, recourse has to found be outside the system of elections, no?

Lets suppose that if everyone in the US voted, Ron Paul would win. Suppose further that the majority of Ron Paul supporters share the "system is rigged" attitude and don't bother voting. As a result, Obama wins the popular vote and this result very closely matches the result of the electoral college. Where is your official proof that the country actually wanted Ron Paul to be their leader? I'm not taking about <1% discrepancies like we've had four times in the past. I'm talking about a serious disconnect between the will of the people and the outcome. Surely such a gross discrepancy would rally support across the country. At the very least it would embolden those who are trying to bring about change and entice more to join them.

Instead you have nothing but speculation and vast generalizations about what the rest of the country thinks. Instead you have people who say "meh, fuck it" and change the channel. You can't prove a system is broken through inaction and without proof all you have is armchair conspiracy theory. If you want to start a revolution, go fucking do it already. If you want to work within the system, go get political. But don't just sit there and pout and complain that the rest of us aren't doing enough to fix your problems.

I don't know. My point is registering your opinion is at least doing something. And something is still better than nothing at all.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 11:56 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


*tearful standing ovation*

although your message is better aimed at worthless fucks like geoff, rather than puff - it looks like he was just asking academically. maybe i'm reading it wrong.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 12:26 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Romney will win. He'll restart the Cold War, claim Hawaii needs to be invaded with the full brunt of "muricuh's military might" and non-stop replays of night-vision combat will play on CNN 24/7...nothing will change.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 12:45 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


bitWISE wrote:
...But don't just sit there and pout and complain that the rest of us aren't doing enough to fix your problems.


he's canadian. they're not his problems

and besides, PuFF thinks setting up tents in a park with no defined agenda is the way forward for political change

(in b4 maple-scented tears)
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 12:52 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


bitWISE wrote:
Lets suppose that if everyone in the US voted, Ron Paul would win. Suppose further that the majority of Ron Paul supporters share the "system is rigged" attitude and don't bother voting. As a result, Obama wins the popular vote and this result very closely matches the result of the electoral college. Where is your official proof that the country actually wanted Ron Paul to be their leader? I'm not taking about <1% discrepancies like we've had four times in the past. I'm talking about a serious disconnect between the will of the people and the outcome. Surely such a gross discrepancy would rally support across the country. At the very least it would embolden those who are trying to bring about change and entice more to join them.

Instead you have nothing but speculation and vast generalizations about what the rest of the country thinks. Instead you have people who say "meh, fuck it" and change the channel. You can't prove a system is broken through inaction and without proof all you have is armchair conspiracy theory. If you want to start a revolution, go fucking do it already. If you want to work within the system, go get political. But don't just sit there and pout and complain that the rest of us aren't doing enough to fix your problems.

I don't know. My point is registering your opinion is at least doing something. And something is still better than nothing at all.

You're describing a fallacy (a fallacy which I agree exists) not a rigged voting system.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 12:53 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It wasn't directed at any specific person. Sorry Puff.

It's too bad OWS didn't target something more tangible like campaign funding or lobbyists.
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bitWISE wrote:
It wasn't directed at any specific person. Sorry Puff.

It's too bad OWS didn't target something more tangible like campaign funding or lobbyists.

No it's fine, I was just trying to understand what you were getting at.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 02:30 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ron Paul is fake and full of shit just like the rest of them.
Obama vs. *, Obama wins 50/47 but with a decent lead in electoral votes. the real fight is going to be for congressional seats where republican redistricting should have them picking up seats in the house since the romney/santorum circus has distracted from their obstructionist bullshittery.
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PostPosted: 03-27-2012 07:26 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ron Paul. If he's not listed in the Nevada ballot, then voting for Not-Obama.
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who ever wins, we're still fucked, another war coming.



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SoM wrote:
who ever wins, Iran's still fucked, another war coming.


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duffman91 wrote:
Ron Paul. If he's not listed in the Nevada ballot, then voting for Not-Obama.


So if Ron Paul isn't on the ballot you'd vote for:

1) a blatant liar who takes the stereotypical "lying politician" to well beyond the ridiculous (someone - frankly - that NO LIVING PERSON ON THIS PLANET would or should trust in any way, shape or form)

or

2) a religious nut who hates sex and firmly believes that there shouldn't be anyone having sex unless it's to make a baby

Are you serious? You would vote for either of these two flippant morons if you didn't have Ron Paul on the ballot? Seriously? Have you not heard the insane things those two have been saying the last several months, with thousands of cameras recording each and every insane word? Craziness that you can view anytime on YouTube or thousands upon thousands of websites that quote and discuss the insane things they've been saying?

Wow....just...wow.
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PostPosted: 03-28-2012 08:52 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


its probably not a logic thing...

jus simple keep-away ey



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It's one thing to hate Obama and want to vote against him. It's another to vote in a completely unqualified wretch simply because there's nobody else on "your team" to vote for, particularly when a vote for the completely unqualified wretch affects the whole country. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face.

But hey, Conservatives have never used their brains when voting and only care about "their team", so there is no real surprise here.

Hey duffman...instead of voting for an obvious idiot, can't you just tear your ballot in half or stay home? At least that way you can look yourself in a mirror.
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I feel you might be holding back here GFY. You sure you don't want to let us know how you really feel?
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One can only hope Durrman91 is trolling
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GONNAFISTYA wrote:
Are you serious? You would vote for either of these two flippant morons if you didn't have Ron Paul on the ballot? Seriously? Have you not heard the insane things those two have been saying the last several months...


as opposed to not having heard the insane things RP has been saying for his entire career?
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GONNAFISTYA wrote:

Hey duffman...instead of voting for an obvious idiot, can't you just tear your ballot in half or stay home? At least that way you can look yourself in a mirror.


I'll start off by saying that American politics are a joke and this "two party" system is pathetic.

Ron Paul caught my eye a few years ago, and I found his views on economics and small government very attractive. The topics that currently matter to me (smaller government, the economy, alternative energy, and healthcare) were all eloquently addressed in his book "The Revolution." Currently, other candidates do not appeal to me.

I, a registered Democrat, do not agree with the current direction and focus of the Democratic Party. I feel that opportunities for positive change were wasted: mortgage crisis, auto industry, healthcare reform, the budget, and alternative energy. I'll focus on on the latter; Moderation and alternative fuels are a necessity. The Democratic Party and nuclear energy have never seen eye to eye. Obama's big promises of alternative energy ultimately led to a stand still with the Yucca Mountain project (Nuclear waste facility). This project is necessary in order to meet current waste storage demands in the Nuclear Power Plants that we currently have. It would also allow for many more facilities to be raised. Harry Reid, with Obama, have essentially stopped the already fragile nuclear growth in the US for the last four years. I disagree with this and feel strongly that this needs to be changed. Traditionally, Republicans are pro Nuclear Energy and will receive my vote this next election. I remind you that that the ballot is a reflection of this two party system.

I cannot stand for another 4 years of Nuclear Power stand-still and refuse to vote Democrat until after the next round of mid-term elections and/or the 2016 election.

But hey, clearly I'm a moron that hasn't thought about this before. Not like I've considered what I'm willing to sacrifice or anything.

Instead of being a jackass on a bulletin board, you could instead reply with your views and stay civil.

Go fuck yourself.
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PostPosted: 03-28-2012 09:28 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


If you'd vote for Santorum in hopes that nuclear power will proliferate in this country, yes, you are a moron. Go fuck yourself.

Of the two, it seems obvious that Romney is the better pick, but let's be honest: the republican party has the evangelicals so far up its ass that it's not even recognizable from what it used to be. I haven't been blown away by Obama, but there's no chance I will vote for a republican as long as their candidates are running on statements like (paraphrasing) "homosexual sex is equivalent to bestiality," or "we need to take this nation back for Jesus."

Either party will take on a strategy to attempt to help the economy, and either party will have varying degrees of success. I am willing to concede that a republican economic strategy might be considerably better than the democratic alternative; that's something they historically have had as a strength. But for the most part, something will be done and the economy will improve at some rate.

However, there's no contest as to which party will bring with it the most damaging social effect. It just seems unconscionable to vote for someone like either Romney or Santorum with that in mind.



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