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PostPosted: 03-24-2012 04:55 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Any brits happen to catch this show tonight? I turned around from reading Ragehard's thread earlier to check out what I was hearing on the TV in a new x factor type show on the BBC called The Voice UK, and I see a singer friend of mine who did ocassional gigs with me the last few years. I drove her to and from the gigs. I always knew (and told her) she had star quality, particularly after demos she would play me in the car of stuff she's written and recorded. Anyway, you may or may not like her style, but she really has an amazing voice. I texted her wishing her luck. The idea of the show is blind auditions, and if the judges like what they hear, they press a button and the chair then faces the singer. The singer then chooses which of the 4 judges they want to team up with. I don't normally care for shows like these, but I think she could win. Not that I'm biased or anything..

See what you think. I'd never heard this song before tonight, but I like it.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00k96j ... rie-cooper

And this is the original by Jessie J.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y29eTcRFEl8&ob=av2n
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PostPosted: 03-24-2012 04:59 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


THIS IS THE VOI... *close window*



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PostPosted: 03-24-2012 05:15 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


wtf is going on
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Hey she's someone I know that could soon be a household name playing on your radiophonic equipment.

Just saying.
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yeah, the show is in its second season here in the US.
edit: difference being that the US version has actual stars as the judges while UK got will.i.am, a fossil, and two nobodies.
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She's bloody good, but Jessie J is clearly better.

Never seen this btw. It's done it a stupidly corny attention whoring way, but I like that the judges seem to have to vote before seeing the performer.
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menkent wrote:
yeah, the show is in its second season here in the US.
edit: difference being that the US version has actual stars as the judges while UK got will.i.am, a fossil, and two nobodies.


Well, indeed. Tom Jones, (fossil, affirmative), still a massive star, and will.i.am from the black eyed peas. Yeah, I'd never heard of the other two before today.
That Jessie J has an astonishing talent though (imo), although very much a ripoff style of the current crop of black american female singers from the US.
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She's bloody good, but Jessie J is clearly better.

Never seen this btw. It's done it a stupidly corny attention whoring way, but I like that the judges seem to have to vote before seeing the performer.


This is their way of trying to blow x factor out of the water according to them, since they're judging talent on the voice without being first influenced on the looks.
I like that idea because it means talent will (should) come first before image.
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Not bad at all DRuM :up:

Impressive perhaps.

We have the same sort of show just about to begin, or perhaps they have been on for a season, unsure as I don't normally watch talent shows.

Still this was worth the moments :D



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PostPosted: 03-24-2012 09:16 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The original's better, but your friend is still pretty good. Hope she goes far, I like her. :up:



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PostPosted: 03-24-2012 11:03 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Here in Holland, where the show originated from, we've grown quite "The Voice" tired. At least, those with half a brain are.



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Another great dutch contribution to modern entertainment :/
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Seriously though, good on her. Some of these finalists actually land decent contracts.
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MKJ wrote:
Seriously though, good on her. Some of these finalists actually land decent contracts.

Ironically that doesn't apply to whoever wins



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Eraser wrote:
MKJ wrote:
Seriously though, good on her. Some of these finalists actually land decent contracts.

Ironically that doesn't apply to whoever wins


Yes a sad world at that :arrow:



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everyone wants to be famous and demand that their privacy be respected
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I'm not kidding chaps, but I was watching the complete re-run of the show last night, saw this guy and as he was being interviewed, a penny dropped as well as my jaw.
I fucking taught him drums for a few years! Both at school and then privately at his parent's house. Haven't seen him for about 6 years when he was about 14, and he lives (or lived, don't know if he's still there) around the corner from me. I remember now that he could sing and act, and his parents are both in the west end and movies. I'm like, how the fuck are two people I know both in a single BBC show, lol.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00k96j ... max-milner
His performance last night, Beatles come together 'mashup' as they call it with an Eminem song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzYE6P5NxSw
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MKJ wrote:
Another great dutch contribution to modern entertainment :/


MKJ wrote:
Seriously though, good on her. Some of these finalists actually land decent contracts.



Have to say, credit to the dutch, as they do seem to have the midas touch and produce shows that become instant hits and spawn many versions internationally. Big Brother is another dutch product isn't it?
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Yes it is. Not something we are particularly proud of.
Also, for every show that succesfully deeps through to the UK or US we have two dozen shows with the same ambitions that utterly fail.



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Friend of mine did the voice of holland thing a few months back and a bunch of us went to the studio and everything, it was a goddamn horror show. Luckily she only made it two rounds or it would have been expected of me to go again, don't know if i could have handled that.

Oh and the host dude was doing niffs of cocaine behind the curtains about every 20 minutes or so, lols.



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DRuM wrote:
I like that idea because it means talent will (should) come first before image.

Oh, anyone that believes there wasn't a pre-selection of people is very, very naive. Even if everyone did get to perform, they simply cut out those that were either ugly or didn't have a chance from the start. I'd even be willing to go so far as to say that I haven't seen any ugly people on The Voice of Holland (as it's called here) so far. I even get the suspicion that the judges in fact DID see the contestants before judging them.

Also, every round after this initial round the judges get to see the people and there's a very large emphasis on making them look as spectacular as possible, with a huge stage that draws more electricity on a single night than all of Africa does in a year. After the initial round the whole "voice first, looks later" mantra is thrown out of the window and it's just Idols/X-Factor/"[whatever applicable] has talent" again.

What I particularly dislike about these shows is how everyone is aping existing artists. There is zero originality, zero musicality and zero creativity in any of these so called talent shows. Why isn't there a show where they have people performing on a few shoved together tables that is acting as the stage, where they sing songs they wrote themselves, where there isn't a backing tape but the performers' own band or they back themselves in a singer/songwriter kind of way, where in the finals they have them all play one big improvised jam so they can show their actual skill and musical technicality? Oh wait I know, it wouldn't sell.



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Ryoki wrote:
Oh and the host dude was doing niffs of cocaine behind the curtains about every 20 minutes or so, lols.


Martijn Krabbe? lol. Bet he's still a trainwreck after finding his wife cheated on him and opened up her snatch for the whole country to see in Playboy :olo:



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My friend said that the judges don't actually get to see the contestants until the dress rehearsal but there's certainly a fair amount of filtering out the uglies and the horrible singers before you're even accepted as a contestant.

Every contestant (not just the winner and the runners up) has to sign a strangle-contract btw, signing away the rights to everything they'll do for the next two years over to Endemol. So even when you're picked up by a major record company, for the next two years all of your money goes to Endemol. It even goes for songs you haven written yet, if you write anything new in that two year period, Endemol has the rights to it. And not just anything you do musically, they have the image rights too, you see - if you decide to persue a career as a model, it's also bye bye money.

Funny thing is that Endemol knows full well that the contracts are ugly, one of the clauses is that they cannot speak about the contents publicly or be fined something like 30,000 euros. It leaked anyway a while back and there was some uproar in the media about it, Endemol denied that they're cunts and that was the end of it.



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tis the same for all these shows.
i guess in Endemol's defense, you will probably get cast in one of their multimillion musical productions so youll build up a fair amount of fame.

with that greatest invention show, you sign away the rights to the patents of your invention whether you win or not. infintely worse imo.
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lol, talent shows...
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i caught some of The Voice on the tele a couple days ago and you know how stupid stuff just occurs to me?

well when I saw two young ladies singing, (one indian lady and one long haired blond) I noticed that the blonds tone had been adjusted so that the resonating frequency of the midrange frequencies of her voice had been boosted up, she sang with a straight ahead type style that really stuck on the notes, but because of the boosted mids, you could really really notice the wavering and errors in her voice.

the Indian lady, she sang in some kind of yodelie type fashion, they scooped the midrange right out of her voice and you couldn't hear or tell shit whether of not she stuck the note.

imo the blonde had a much better thing going on, much stronger, richer tone, and a non-gimmicky style, but because of the boosted mids of her resonating frequentcy, the flaws were over exaggerated.

the indian ladys voice was weak and had that gimmicky yodel indiscriminately applied like an amateur all over her routine .

it was obvios to me that the blonde should have won.

she didnt they fell for the crappy scooped mids yodel.



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seremtan wrote:
everyone wants to be famous and demand that their privacy be respected

now that's a soundbite :up:
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Wouldn't surprise me if they actually did tamper with EQ settings to make people sound better or worse, plained



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Eraser wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me if they actually did tamper with EQ settings to make people sound better or worse, plained


I can tell you that the girl in the opening post sang exactly like that through a simple mic with some reverb and no other effects when her arse was directly in front of my drums. :D
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lol they set that up... if that was for realz security would be up there in 5 secs.
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DRuM wrote:
Eraser wrote:
Wouldn't surprise me if they actually did tamper with EQ settings to make people sound better or worse, plained


I can tell you that the girl in the opening post sang exactly like that through a simple mic with some reverb and no other effects when her arse was directly in front of my drums. :D



and that simple mic was pluged into a mixer channel right?

yea with a parametric eq jus sayin



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bumping this because i just saw a blurb about the upcoming season of the US show - judges will be Christina Aguillera, Rob Thomas (Matchbox 20?), Billie Joe Armstrong (Green Day), and Michael Buble. :tard: :puke:
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