Samsung 3D/120Hz monitor

[Mat Linnett]

Wait, wtf? Never thought I'd see people here listing broadcast grading monitors.
BVMs are for client monitoring in online edit suites :E
Your average dumbass Joe Public would think that the picture was dull. These things are for showing you pictures exactly how they were shot.
Besides which, they need calibrating between jobs, something you either pay a third party to do or you end up spending money on the tools and training.
Really not something you would ever see outside of a post production environment.

[DTS]

Thanks, Mat Linnett. I had been waiting for an OLED monitor for ages, that's how I know about that one. I wouldn't think the picture was dull; I want to see pictures exactly how they were shot, especially if I get into photography (I don't even like edited photos, I want the image to look like you are actually there, not a painting or artist's impression of being there ). I didn't know that much about the calibrating, but knowing it could need calibrating over and over again was putting me off it. Why do you need training for it? Looked to me like you just point a tool at the screen and adjust the colours and stuff how it says to. Should come with instructions, why wouldn't they be enough?

How is a broadcast post production monitor's image any different to that which a graphic artist, photographer, or skinner wants; they all want the colour to be correct, don't they?

[Mat Linnett]

For that you'd need to talk to someone with a bit more monitor knowledge than me. My specialty is edit suites and keeping those working.
But as an example, these monitors are typically used in rooms made to eliminate any residual light source. The people who use them typically spend the majority of their working day in the dark.
Training up for calibration doesn't take long; you can get courses that will lay out the basics for you in a day, but if you want to understand the theory, that'll take a bit longer.
Don't get me wrong, it's a fucking fantastic monitor, but overpriced for the general consumer. In fact, the inputs on that monitor are probably going to be HDSDI, with maybe one DVI and in all likelihood no HDMI or display port. HDSDI again is a broadcast standard using a BNC style connector.
If you really want a monitor of that quality, consider looking at offerings from JVC. You get comparable quality but at a much lower pricepoint. I've also seen a nice similar grading monitor by a company called Flanders Scientific recently.

[DTS]

Looks like you are wrong about the HDMI and the DisplayPort, Mat Linnett; on the Sony tech specs page it says:

Input

SDI


BNC (x2)

HDMI


HDMI (x1) (HDCP correspondence, Deep Color correspondence)

DisplayPort


DisplayPort connector (x1)*2

Option port


4 ports

Parallel remote


D-sub 9-pin (female) (x1)

Serial remote (LAN)


Ethernet (10BASE-T/100BASE-TX), RJ-45 (x1)

I'll have a look at those ones you linked to, but it's really the OLED that had me interested, cause it's the only tech that's out - in the market - that touches CRT.

[Doombrain]

For that you'd need to talk to someone with a bit more monitor knowledge than me. My specialty is edit suites and keeping those working.
But as an example, these monitors are typically used in rooms made to eliminate any residual light source. The people who use them typically spend the majority of their working day in the dark.
Training up for calibration doesn't take long; you can get courses that will lay out the basics for you in a day, but if you want to understand the theory, that'll take a bit longer.
Don't get me wrong, it's a fucking fantastic monitor, but overpriced for the general consumer. In fact, the inputs on that monitor are probably going to be HDSDI, with maybe one DVI and in all likelihood no HDMI or display port. HDSDI again is a broadcast standard using a BNC style connector.
If you really want a monitor of that quality, consider looking at offerings from JVC. You get comparable quality but at a much lower pricepoint. I've also seen a nice similar grading monitor by a company called Flanders Scientific recently.

I could do your profiling for you £600 to you, DTS.

You just need something like Profile Maker 5 and a newish i1Pro. Most wizards will walk you through the process unless you're aiming to device link and simulate another output device.

Or you could waste £100 on a i1 Display and get a dE of around +/- 3. But as you say, it's not many displays that can output to the correct standard. you should see the look on peoples faces when you show them a dE report from a Apple monitor and it's terrible. People just don't know what to expect from real world colours.

[DRuM]

You will notice the smoothness just with windows and cursor movement. I haven't watched any 3D movies on mine, just a few trailers I downloaded on PS3. Nothing mind blowing, just different. I think the 3d in the theater is better...but that might just be because of the massive difference in screen size.

I received the monitor now. Yeah, you're right, my mouse instantly got smoother with 120hz. The monitor is worthwhile just for the 120Hz, games are definitely smoother now. I'm not particularly liking these active glasses though for 3D. Does my eyes in a bit and I could feel a headache coming on. Pity it's not passive like in the theatre. Tested a few games like crysis warhead and skyrim using tridef software. They ran better than I expected on my puny dual core and 5850, with framerates around 30fps. Skyrim looks amazing in 3D. I'm just not sure if I'll play in 3D that much though because of the slight discomfort of the glasses. The wow factor is there but it's not really going to immerse me in the game much more than playing in 2D. I could change my mind though, it's early days. They also make the screen look darker but that's the same in the theatre anyway.

[shaft]

That about sums up my 3d experience. Was cool to try, but it wasn't worth the tradeoff in detail. The glasses cause a little strain, but just assumed I didn't give myself enough time to adjust to them. My monitor increased brightness to compensate for glasses when I switch to 3d, check your settings.