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Tsakali
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 09:06 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


k so I'm trying to troubleshoot the outside AC unit (compressor?), and i think the issue is a bad capacitor (oval cap. )...problem is, there are 3 capacitors in this setup (possibly rigged in that way, I have no clue) and i think I have identified the one that's bad. problem is, the fucking thing is so old I can't even read the cap's technical specs, so i don't know what to replace it with. I know that the physical size of it is of some help, but that won't really be a good enough indication would it?

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any easy tips on how to figure this out? could this cap be tested to find out the specs? I think it's a bad one so that might not work as intended.

here is the fan motor on that unit if that helps.

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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 09:35 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


:olo: Good luck!
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 09:37 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


yes that helps, thanks
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 09:57 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


it would if you knew anything about it... that's the motor info, that the capacitor is connected to.
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 09:57 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


buy a new unit



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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 09:58 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Tsakali wrote:
it would if you knew anything about it... that's the motor info, that the capacitor is connected to.

have you tried fixing the problem?
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 10:04 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


yes
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 10:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ever try googling the service manual for the unit?
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 10:14 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


ever try asking for advice on a videogame forum?
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 10:15 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


http://www.google.ca/search?q=part+numb ... =firefox-a

(you're welcome)
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Theftbot wrote:
Ever try googling the service manual for the unit?

can't get the unit model number cause the label has completely faded. So all I know is the motor and the compressor model and info. :miffed:
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I suggest you consult with a Professor of Exterior Air Conditioning Unit Fan Motor Capacitor Studies. He'll probably have just the part you are looking for in his back pocket.



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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
http://www.google.ca/search?q=part+number+51-21276-02&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

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google it is.....
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just googled words from this topic and apparently you also need to know if the compressor is 'reciprocating' or 'scroll' if you're going to work it out from the motor specs.

is there not a manufacturer's mark or model number on the unit anywhere at all (possibly inside an inspection hatch/plate if not on the outside)?

if they look like the same type, are there markings on the other capacitors? there's something at the base of the one you've photographed - you might be able to get the entire string by looking at the others or googling what you can read with 'hvac capacitor'.
since the print is worn off anyway, you could try running something greasy or a sharpie over where it was to see if it makes the ghost of the print easier to see.

i don't think you're even trying.
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valiant effort mate! I just figured out the local morons that "service" this type of ac and called them, so I think I got the info I need on the capacitor. I might still do what you said with that cap just for fun :up:

thread delivers!
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 10:32 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


cheers to the old one for providing awesome performance all these years!

i bet the new one wont last 1/2 as long lol



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You called a professional. Nice work. How did the thread deliver?
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plained wrote:
cheers to the old one for providing awesome performance all these years!

i bet the new one wont last 1/2 as long lol

it wont but I don't care. it's the unit at my parents house, so if they can hold off for a few more years, why pay for a new one? besides it's just the unit that cools the garage room ( and a bathroom and a bar area ) so they hardly use it.




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xer0s wrote:
You called a professional. Nice work. How did the thread deliver?

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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 10:53 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


obsidian wrote:
I suggest you consult with a Professor of Exterior Air Conditioning Unit Fan Motor Capacitor Studies. He'll probably have just the part you are looking for in his back pocket.

lol it sure felt that way there for a while.
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Great thread, would lol again.



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Tsakali wrote:
plained wrote:
cheers to the old one for providing awesome performance all these years!

i bet the new one wont last 1/2 as long lol

it wont but I don't care. it's the unit at my parents house, so if they can hold off for a few more years, why pay for a new one? besides it's just the unit that cools the garage room ( and a bathroom and a bar area ) so they hardly use it.



that cap i mean ey



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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 11:31 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


:olo: Tsuckali's completely retarded :olo:
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PostPosted: 05-16-2012 11:41 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I threw one of those away, just now.
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Nightshade wrote:
:olo: Tsuckali's completely retarded :olo:

3 rounds homo?
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plained wrote:


that cap i mean ey

ah. it's only 6 bucks, right up the street :up:
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I know the problem but it will cost you.
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Tsakali wrote:
3 rounds homo?


Sorry, I don't bat for your team; the gay, retarded team.

You're too stupid to google something without being told to do so. :olo:
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TKO :olo:
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Yes, the ref stopped your fight with your AC unit because it was beating you like a rented mule. :olo:
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andyman wrote:
I know the problem but it will cost you.


that's what she said.
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Tsakali wrote:
I'm so stupid I need to be told to Google basic information on my HVAC system


That's what you said. :olo:
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i just had a motor go out on me too

this thing

http://www.amazon.com/Venmar-Motor-0210 ... B001UATH3A

at least i can buy just the motor, they prefer to sell you the whole assembly for 350!



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Nightshade wrote:
Tsakali wrote:
I'm so stupid I need to be told to Google basic information on my HVAC system


That's what you said. :olo:

lol, you're like those idiots that get up from a KO still swinging ffs. let it go, you're not even funny.
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because only an idiot could still be swinging after being knocked out cold

or something
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