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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 06-22-2012 02:21 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Shaft, I'd try $250. It likely won't sell, but in a couple days you can lower the price to $200, a couple days later $150, etc...until you get a buyer. The market won't change much in a week, so I'd go for it...




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Aneurysm
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PostPosted: 06-22-2012 02:22 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


@mogul
Int isn't worthless. A wizard could use it. Or your enchantress . You've played this game, right?




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Aneurysm
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PostPosted: 06-22-2012 02:25 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I may just try to sell it for ingame currency. I really don't have an endgame weapon for my monk. I'd like to flip it for a nice dagger or fist weapon.




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Cobalt Adrenaline
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PostPosted: 06-22-2012 02:38 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Mogul wrote:
Well... the int affix is worthless, but the DPS number is what matters most, and 1390 is pretty nice! Maybe you could get 100 out of it? If not, at least a few million gold.

Wonder what the DPS of an Enchantress would be with that, lol.




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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 01:10 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


shaft wrote:
@mogul
Int isn't worthless. A wizard could use it. Or your enchantress . You've played this game, right?


I've not played a wizard... They can equip 2h axes?



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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 01:51 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yes.




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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 04:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


In that case, yeah, shoot for 250. There's a realistic chance you'll sell.



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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 07:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yes, wizards (and witch doctors?) can use that. I'm having a hard time pinning down what it is worth.

As an int/crit weapon (which is the best combo for wizards), it is currently the best up for sale. Having crit-dmg as a property instead of from a socket hurts a little though. Selling it this way, you're looking at $90 tops.

Ignoring the crit, the next best contenders are a few int weapons and in that dps range you're looking at ~$50.

Ignoring all of that and looking at just dps, you might be able to get $10-$15.

So if it were me, I suppose I would list it for a bid of $15 and a buyout of $90.

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My cashing out progress is going almost better than I expected. I still have 5 more items to sell and I'm already up to $411.




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Aneurysm
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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 09:00 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


thank bitwise, what about ingame gold? is 5mil too much?




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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 09:36 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Add me jpotts#1764




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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 12:45 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


shaft wrote:
thank bitwise, what about ingame gold? is 5mil too much?

$90 would be 18 million gold but it all just depends on what else is listed and for how much. Also keep in mind that those items haven't sold so you probably need any even more attractive value than a simple undercut.




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Aneurysm
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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 01:39 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


damn, I put it up for 14.5mil and it sold really fast. should have went higher...




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Cobalt Adrenaline
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PostPosted: 06-23-2012 08:17 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


shaft wrote:
damn, I put it up for 14.5mil and it sold really fast. should have went higher...

*like*

It's a saturday dude, markets are HECTIC. And I did say, "are you happy with 15m" and you did say "yea!"




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PostPosted: 06-24-2012 02:00 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Here's a super useful table of maximum possible stat rolls per slot:

http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-it ... um-values/

Should help a lot with the eBay simulator that Diablo 3 has turned out to be.




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PostPosted: 06-24-2012 05:58 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


U4EA wrote:
eBay simulator.

:olo: :olo: :olo: :olo: :olo:




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PostPosted: 06-24-2012 06:17 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I got a 916 dps cross bow, item level 63, with -14 level requirement. Burning through Hell mode on my 50 DH lol.



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PostPosted: 06-26-2012 02:15 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Complaints from the Chinese D3 forums. They're on the money about many of the current problems.

Quote:
first, this is an emotional post, no technical content here. but for a pay2win game like D3, there's no technique worth discussion at all, IMO.

this is post is mainly abusing and complaining. if you are a blizz fanboy insisting that whatever trash game blizz made, you will still support them, just like supporting your favorite stars, even if they behavior as animals, then you'd better not read this post which will make you upset and angry.

for those who will say "if you don't like this game, just go away.", i'd like to reply, i bought this game, i decide how to enjoy this game. slain by monsters everyday is not fun for me, so i'm currently enjoying this game by abusing and complaining about it.

i have played this game for 2 months. struggled to bring my 2 chars to lv60. as blizzard said, the game begins from here. all skills and difficulty levels are unlocked. after experienced inferno, i found that i am the monster in this game. those monsters are the players who paid for this game. i think they must be having fun. they maybe smiling when they saw me logged in. when i was killed, i always imagine that 3 elites are sitting on the ground and smoking. one said to another "do you think that S** OF B**** will come again? he has died hundreds of time but still keep coming. he's really a B****. i'm bored killing him.". another elite will say"you know, he's a super B****". the last elite will say"you guys just sit here, have a break. i will show you how i one shoot the S** of B****". then a heavy armored barb showed up, still out of breath. but before he can do any attack he become a small cross on the ground again. F***, i say. and feel vacuous.

difficulty?
i'm curious what's your definition of difficulty, blizz! are you seriously thinking that increase monsters' hp and increase monsters' damage is the way to increase difficulty? blizz made a blue post saying that if you died a lot, it means you are undergeared. i'd want to reply:"F**** your M*****", seriously. if godly geared, even my 8-months-old daughter can clear this game by spamming left click. you call this difficulty? or your difficulty is only to those who don't have OR don't want to use money on RMAH? the design of the drop rate is ridiculous. what you can get in ACT1 can't help you clear ACT1 which means even you farm 100 years you can't clear inferno if you don't use AH. I've already paid for my game, why should i pay more on AH to enjoy this game? if you don't want to use money on RMAH, sorry, the gate of inferno is closed to you. but, is inferno that important? you will see the same contents which you have seen hundreds times! nothing new in inferno. the story is the same! the dialogs are the same! the only new stuff is the high ilvl items. but, even if you can faceroll inferno, what will happen? smash and revenge the elites that once laught at you? but i wanna shout to ask, is this fun? this fun? fun?

why powerlevel is not legit?
i want to ask you narcissism devs, are you really so cofident that believe players would be glad to watch the stories, cinimatic hundreds times, like drunk?? you think your story is a B.I.B.L.E? i'd like to power level my character to lv60 by killing monsters, why couldn't i? why you nerf EXP when repeat a quest? because your garbage server can't afford people create games repeatedly? some people like to walk into every corner on the map, but others would like to level efficiently. that's players freedom. you can't tell players how to play. suppose i bought a wash machine, i'd like to put rice in it, and i think it's cool, why can't i? even some people may think i'm an idiot, but i still can do it, am i? you can't lock my wash machine remotely when i do this! it's none of your bussiness! i bought the wash machine, i decide how to use it! that's called liberty, you americans understand liberty better than i do, don't ask me to teach you what the liberty is! if you really understand what players need, you should provide some place for power level. even make an achievment called power level. this will be fun for some people. tortured by monsters until pee-poo out of control is not fun!

why increase repair bill?
It doesn't make any sense. if i can't beat a monster, why can't i simple choose die? now you are punishing people for dying. can't you be more reasonable? be reasonable will not make you P.R.E.G.N.A.N.T! you said, you don't want players zerg. another "you don't want", eh? i'm undergeared, i don't want to use real money, i'd like zerg, why does it matter? i'm proud of myself if i can clear the act by zerging! why can't i? the only way left to me is the RMAH. I would advise you opening a supermarket rather than a game company.

why servers are so crap?
i totally can't understand. i'm IT related. when the development of a system is done, the number of simultaneous links of the system is the most important statics we will check out. you should have done it, aren't you? if your servers are not capable of the number, why you still selling you copies? you still sell the game even when you know that some of the players can't login or having lantency issues. can i think this is cheating? some will say, there are so many chinese farmers here that make the game laggy. F*** u. there's nothing to do with it. if your server are capable of the number of people who bought your game, you should not have any lag issues.

LAST, i want to say:
i don't know whether you have a DAYE, blizz. but whether you have or not, i'd say F*** your DAYE. do you know DAYE? let me explain you, DAYE is your father's brother, yes, you american call him uncle. so, F*** your uncle. you maybe confused why F*** uncle as there are mother, sisters there. let me teach you again, and remeber it: it's called LIBERTY! in your blues, "we don't want" this, "we don't want" that. don't want players farm pots/vases, don't want players farm bosses repeatedly, don't want players power level, but do you know, 1000 people will have 1000 ways to have fun. there's a chinese saying: your cuisine may others poison. i like farm pot, even only 1 gold drops from a pot, i will still farm it anyway for nothing just to hear the crisp sound. this is a superb playing style that you can't understand. you made us unable to afford dying, then nerfed gold farming spot. i'd ask what do you want to do? are you guys just want to torture players for fun? just like the Development And Reform Committee in our country who will say "wow, these days are so peaceful, let's markup the gasolin price!". you guys say"wow, lets see how will these S** of B**** be if we nerf both weapons damage and monsters HP to its half!", "add rage timer see whether these S*** of B**** can handle it or not!" the other day.

Blizz, do you know why D3 can sell so good? that's for the sake of D2, that's for the sake of millions people like the Diablo franchise, that's for the sake of we 30's memories. if this game is not released by the name Diablo, it will be nothing than a S***. just like those popup ads on web sites, a semi-n.a.k.e.d loli saying "hi, click me, i will become a monster. register now, you will get 1billion gold!! yes, 1 billion gold, not 1 billion S***M".




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PostPosted: 06-26-2012 07:05 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The reason people (still) play Diablo II is the grind addiction. No surprise that was the focal point in D3. I've never played a game where the grind was the sole reason to play the game. While grinding has always been a necessary evil in most RPGs, making it the main focal point so obviously is a little much. In most games the balance between character stats:gear leans more toward stats. The scale in D3 is leaning way too far toward the gear end for me. I haven't played in 2 weeks and have no desire, I'm back to Skyrim.

It doesn't make it a bad game, people will still be playing it for years and years to come, but there's little desire for people who want to play a "game." There are just too many other good games to play for people like me that don't care about the auction house and that don't require the grind or having to buy equipment. At the end of the day I can't justify spending real money on Diablo 3 gear and I haven't grinded enough to find anything worth selling nor do I really care anyway. And it's not like Diablo 3 has amazing gameplay or story to keep you otherwise. In fairness though, I guess the same could be said of the other Diablo games....maybe I just should've known this game wasn't for me, but the auction house seems kind of ridiculous.




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PostPosted: 06-27-2012 03:21 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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PostPosted: 07-04-2012 02:48 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote




Over 4 days of my life I won't see again, but I enjoyed it :D




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PostPosted: 07-04-2012 05:19 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


grats :)



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PostPosted: 07-04-2012 06:45 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm kind of bored of this game at the moment. I have a 60 normal barb that's partway through act 2 inferno, and a 58 hardcore witch doctor in act 2 on nightmare. I probably have 100 hours played time total. Hopefully this game becomes appealing to me again.




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PostPosted: 07-04-2012 07:31 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


There was a recently a blizz post where they admit that the end-game item hunt isn't as compelling as they imagined it would be. I think a lot of us that have been playing since beta or day 1 are really starting to see that.

That is, unless you're making hundreds of dollars doing it. That's different.



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PostPosted: 07-04-2012 07:41 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Try Hardcore. Suddenly, it's fun again. DooMer had it right, from the start.




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U4EA wrote:
Try Hardcore. Suddenly, it's fun again. DooMer had it right, from the start.

Hardcore has always been the way to go with a game like this. I respect people that choose not to play it, but fuck you're missing out on a lot of fun. Its insane how many close calls I've had on my 58 WD, I can't believe I haven't died yet. Multiple times I nearly just took my hands off the keyboard and gave up because I was certain I was dead. Its exciting and rewarding when you take on a tough champ pack and question whether or not you are going to make it. Knowing that 40 hours of play time could go down the drain at any point will give you much more excitement than constantly doing the normal mode grind.




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 07-05-2012 07:28 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'd love to be able to play Hardcore, but frankly, I'm not good enough. I die frequently on Normal (not as much as I once was). I'm getting better, but to have to be really good at this game for it to be fun is a bit of a downer. I think a game should allow you to suck, but still have fun...




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PostPosted: 07-05-2012 09:47 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


There's also the issue of having to play chicken with your internet connection. Many great Diablo 3 players have lost their HC character due to lag spikes or disconnections.



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PostPosted: 07-05-2012 10:52 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I have a confession... this is how I play Diablo:
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:D *champion nerd hat*




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PostPosted: 07-29-2012 03:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Finally made it. Lost my first at level 52 in Halls of Agony to a Dark Berserker champion pack. Vortexed into a clusterfuck of arcane beams and desecrate without any cooldowns up.



I don't think I have the time or patience to make a serious push in Inferno :\




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PostPosted: 07-29-2012 11:11 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


:up: Congrats, I never tried hardcore because I figured I'd just be playing the beginning of the game over and over haha. I imagine Inferno would definitely be an exercise in frustration.




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PostPosted: 07-30-2012 07:34 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Wow, congrats man :)




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PostPosted: 08-10-2012 03:23 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Patch 1.0.4 Systems Preview: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6923456 ... -8_10_2012

It's definitely not too little, but I'm afraid it is way too late. Many people have quit already and the 4th week of August means many more will be distracted by GW2 [I know I will be]. Still, a lot of good changes in there.




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 08-10-2012 03:31 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, I quit this game at level 48 on Nightmare. Just didn't have lasting appeal...




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i quit at lvl 12 and got a full refund



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