although i havent played UrT in ages, i still remember how awsome it was. its a heavily modded version of quake 3 that converts quake to a realism shooter. it involved real guns with urban maps and a couple of tweaks to the physics and controls that sets it apart from other mods: - walljump: hitting...

i got quake live and i found it to lag and be annoying, but if you have a good connection and dont mind the long long wait to download all the maps and stuff, then its really good and works quite well.