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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 11:12 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Captain Mazda wrote:
Whiskey left the forum


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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 11:13 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, or axbaby who got pissed off because he loved Trump so much




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 11:20 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Or GONNAKILLYA, who didn't love Telltale Games and Game of Thrones so much :olo:




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 12:07 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Captain Mazda wrote:
Whiskey left the forum


:?:




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 12:25 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
Captain Mazda wrote:
Whiskey left the forum


:?:

Pure speculation.
I'm fully expecting another exciting episode of News of the Weird later today.




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 01:20 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Shit, I completely forgot about all these people rage quitting...

Whiskey (supposedly)
Axbaby
Nightshade
GKY
Peenyah
Eonix

I’m sure there’s more...




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 01:32 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I doubt Whiskey's really gone anywhere, probably just standing in front of his house waiting for the mailman.



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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 01:37 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
Shit, I completely forgot about all these people rage quitting...

Whiskey (supposedly)
Axbaby
Nightshade
GKY
Peenyah
Eonix

I’m sure there’s more...


Gwamps many many many times, if he had a single friend he wouldn't have to keep coming back.




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 02:10 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


obsidian wrote:
I doubt Whiskey's really gone anywhere, probably just standing in front of his house waiting for the mailman.


What a gentleman




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 04:24 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Really? I must have missed that... Kinda lame to just leave when people disagree with you, if that was the case I'd have been gone loooong ago..

Axbaby bailed after admitting he supported Drumpf. He didn't have a response to the criticism and got embarrassed. I'm sure he's cheering the orange clown on with his black teenage girlfriend in Africa.




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 04:27 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Or GONNAKILLYA, who didn't love Telltale Games and Game of Thrones so much :olo:

One might say he'd call them bullshot. :ninja:




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 05:15 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Lol so much better without that whiskey moron...




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PostPosted: 06-05-2020 11:09 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Hypocracy at its best




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PostPosted: 06-06-2020 12:00 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yep, it's a very very retarded country.




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PostPosted: 06-06-2020 04:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Hypocracy at its best
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it was really moving when Covid-19 decided to ignore the lack of social distancing at George Floyd protests and not infect anyone out of #solidarity <3




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seremtan wrote:
Eraser wrote:
Hypocracy at its best
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it was really moving when Covid-19 decided to ignore the lack of social distancing at George Floyd protests and not infect anyone out of #solidarity <3

What's your point?




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PostPosted: 06-06-2020 02:57 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


my point is that the cognitive dissonance exists right across the spectrum. people quickly forget that this is a virus and therefore doesn't care why you were wherever you were when it infected you




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PostPosted: 06-06-2020 05:28 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm sorry you had to explain.




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seremtan wrote:
my point is that the cognitive dissonance exists right across the spectrum. people quickly forget that this is a virus and therefore doesn't care why you were wherever you were when it infected you

Sounds like a "what about"-ism




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PostPosted: 06-07-2020 10:08 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


sounds like pointing out hypocrisy to me




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seremtan wrote:
sounds like pointing out hypocrisy to me

Yeah because protesting for a haircut is the exact same thing as protesting hundreds of years of inequality, oppression and institutional racism.

Look, having protests like these isn't ideal from a pandemic point of view, but this pot has boiled over, arguably partly because of the virus, and it's unreasonable to ask all these people demonstrating in american streets to just "hold that thought" for half a year or maybe just, well, indefinitely.
I realize you may be specifically talking about people protesting in the UK, as you've been vocally opposed to that in the other thread as well. I'll leave that in the middle here, as I'm not too aware of what's going on in the UK right now. In the US, however, I can understand all these people going out and protesting despite the dangers of COVID-19 so well. Is it, from a health standpoint, the smartest thing to do during a pandemic? No, I guess not. But I do understand where it's all coming from and why they do it, especially because protests like these are a largely unplanned outcry from society. The main goal here is not defying the government's wishes regarding COVID, while those haircut protestors are.

Honestly, to me it's unfathomable to put the two groups in the same category.




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PostPosted: 06-08-2020 12:52 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Of course John Oliver has a thing to say as well.


Personally, I was deeply touched by the clip of the woman at the end. The cynics among you will probably do it away as acting and drama and everything, but I can only imagine what she shows here is exactly how many black people feel.
If someone's interested in the full video of her, it's available here.




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Eraser wrote:
seremtan wrote:
sounds like pointing out hypocrisy to me

Yeah because protesting for a haircut is the exact same thing as protesting hundreds of years of inequality, oppression and institutional racism.

Look, having protests like these isn't ideal from a pandemic point of view, but this pot has boiled over, arguably partly because of the virus, and it's unreasonable to ask all these people demonstrating in american streets to just "hold that thought" for half a year or maybe just, well, indefinitely.
I realize you may be specifically talking about people protesting in the UK, as you've been vocally opposed to that in the other thread as well. I'll leave that in the middle here, as I'm not too aware of what's going on in the UK right now. In the US, however, I can understand all these people going out and protesting despite the dangers of COVID-19 so well. Is it, from a health standpoint, the smartest thing to do during a pandemic? No, I guess not. But I do understand where it's all coming from and why they do it, especially because protests like these are a largely unplanned outcry from society. The main goal here is not defying the government's wishes regarding COVID, while those haircut protestors are.

Honestly, to me it's unfathomable to put the two groups in the same category.


100% agree with this




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PostPosted: 06-08-2020 03:27 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ignorant people like their ignorant views kept ignorant.




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PostPosted: 06-08-2020 07:20 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Cognitive dissonance.




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PostPosted: 06-09-2020 12:21 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


phantasmagoria wrote:


they'll be putting 24 hour armed guard around the Churchill statue next




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PostPosted: 06-10-2020 09:39 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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And here is the sheriff of that departement in 2015 who is now distancing himself from the F.O.P. -post.
The fish starts to smell at its head.
America has a gun- and a bible-problem and especially within some departements of the police force, as it seems.




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PostPosted: 06-11-2020 08:50 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Those people calling to abolish the police are sounding more and more sensible by the day. :miffed:




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PostPosted: 06-11-2020 09:06 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


defund*




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PostPosted: 06-11-2020 09:55 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Or maybe just get rid of them and put a new system in place. :up:




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From what I've read, defunding is a little more complicated than it would first appear, and may actually be a good thing.
On the surface, it sounds like you just want to take money away from cops.

The reality is seemingly somewhat different.

The main gist being that police funding has increased as policing's definition has changed in order to accomodate fields that police traditionally haven't been reponsible for.

The end result has seen a decrease in funding for those specialised fields that the police are now dealing with, yet without the proper training or expertise.

By defunding the police and taking away those responsibilities, the money can then be re-invested in individual government bodies whose sole purview is one of those responsibilities.

In turn, cops go back to just being cops, and not confused people with guns trying to be jacks-of-all-trades.

Forgive me if I've mangled it somewhat, but does that sound about right?




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