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CZghost
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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 02:38 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


These forums really would benefit from a redesign. First of all, I can't even log out from index page, I have to click a forum and log out from there. Portal page (for some reason the default redirect from root) doesn't contain "Log In" button, only username and password fields, and that login form doesn't even work, and you can't log out from there, eighter. I don't say that the design is bad, but you can definitely see its age and the fact that basic functionality is somewhat broken, and that is for years, that's another reason to start thinking about revamping the forum design.

What do you think? Should the forum design be revamped? I think that it would really be better, especially on eyes.



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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 10:46 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


First World Czech youngster problems much?
This is a place for old fucks man. Get used to it :).
Seriously though, keep it as is please. I come back time and again exactly because of the charm.
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CZghost
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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 12:19 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Read again what I said. I don't say that the design is bad, and I agree it has its charm. But you can feel the age.

Okay, I guess the design itself isn't actually much necessary to be revamped entirely, but at least fix the bugs I stated. I can't log out from index page, not from portal page, and that is beause there is an appropriate button for it missing. That doesn't mean I can't just manually type in the URL for logging out from anywhere, but who has it memorized? Clicking a forum just to be able to log out is dumb.



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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 01:10 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


My 2 cents.

It has charm and in my opinion, charm and age fit well together. I would agree you can feel the age, so for my money, fix any bugs by all means as the basic framework/design of Q3W is nice to see.

I would dearly like to 'see' other forums of this era to compare so if you have a favourite besides Q3W, post a link please :)

If you want to see an old web page, my personal home page for years, clicky.
I took it down sometime ago and now still viewable via The Way Back Machine AKA The Internet Archive



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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 05:08 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The Admins have been working on a redesign for years. Be patient it will be completed soon.



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CZghost
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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 10:03 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ok.



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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 10:29 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Login form on portal page works fine for me, not sure what you're going on about.
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MKJ
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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 10:31 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Oh wait I see the issue
I'll get right on it after I've tested your shader editor.
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CZghost
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PostPosted: 05-04-2022 10:49 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


MKJ wrote:
Oh wait I see the issue
I'll get right on it after I've tested your shader editor.

Haha, funny. I wasn't talking about login, I was talking about logout.
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PostPosted: 05-05-2022 09:13 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Everyone who doesn't want a redesign should vote in favor of Czghost doing the redesign.
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CZghost
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PostPosted: 05-06-2022 12:48 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Funny. So funny I forgot to laugh actually.



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seremtan
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PostPosted: 05-06-2022 01:20 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


pretty sure the forum's been redesigned as a discord server

not sure tho
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duffman91
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PostPosted: 05-06-2022 10:37 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'll settle for mobile friendly....
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MKJ
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PostPosted: 05-06-2022 11:06 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What would you like to see differently, mobile wise
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CZghost
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PostPosted: 05-07-2022 02:03 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Have you seen how the forum looks on mobile phone screen? You have to zoom in in order to be able to even see anything.



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PostPosted: 05-07-2022 02:05 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Main issue is clicking on links. The full site is simply shrunken down to fit the screen on mobile and zooming in is required.

A good mobile view can be seen at cnn.com and foxnews.com. The sites are legible & clickable on both mobile and traditional desktops; no need to ever zoom.
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PostPosted: 05-08-2022 12:11 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


CZghost wrote:
Have you seen how the forum looks on mobile phone screen? You have to zoom in in order to be able to even see anything.

I use the site exclusively on mobile, so yes.
I don't need to zoom ever* so not sure whats the deal, but I can up the font size a bit.

* on reading topics.

Two biggest issues is that 1 the code is a million years old and not as easily converted to mobile friendly views, and 2 last time I made changes to make it more mobile friendly we had users complaining and installing browser plugins to undo them because oh no change.
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PostPosted: 05-08-2022 03:22 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yyyeeaahhh, I wouldn't bother
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seremtan
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PostPosted: 05-09-2022 11:15 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


it's like Ron Swanson once said: "making changes to Q3W is like giving food to a mortally wounded animal instead of slaughtering it and utilising its meat and pelt"
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PostPosted: 06-22-2022 10:34 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It would be ok improving the functional and technical part, if theme redesign doesn't matter (I don't care changing theme).

In The Void section, all user post counts should be counted. Each time, an user posts there, the counts doesn't sum.

I found some PHP log debugs when using Search. Is the forum source code opensource?

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PostPosted: 06-22-2022 04:27 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


My dude, this forum is 23 years old.

Also, postcounts deliberately don't increase in The Void. It's by design.
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PostPosted: 06-23-2022 11:12 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
it's like Ron Swanson once said: "making changes to Q3W is like giving food to a mortally wounded animal instead of slaughtering it and utilising its meat and pelt"


Ron <3
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LegendGuard
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PostPosted: 06-27-2022 02:09 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Too bad, postcounts in Void can't be increased.

In the other hand, it would be ok to maintain the quality and maintenance if it's keeping. Any updates can be needed, also the deprecation can lead to consequences.
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PostPosted: 06-27-2022 10:31 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What type of consequences?
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seremtan
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PostPosted: 06-27-2022 10:41 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


the type that'll never be the same again, i'll wager
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PostPosted: 06-27-2022 11:28 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
What type of consequences?

Unforeseen consequences
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PostPosted: 07-01-2022 04:34 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
xer0s wrote:
What type of consequences?

Unforeseen consequences

I can't be bothered right now.

They're waiting for you. In the test chamberrr.
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With my brains and your brawn we'll make an excellent team!
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Well, I seem to be seriously wounded.
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seremtan
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PostPosted: 07-01-2022 03:22 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


AAGH UUUGH NOOO NOOO AGHHH

[giant beak asparagus monster intensifies]
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PostPosted: 07-02-2022 04:38 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
What type of consequences?

If it isn't well maintained and updated, doesn't guarantee the stability. Also, probably the server can fall.
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PostPosted: 07-06-2022 02:06 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Never change a running system.

If you want to play around with software, there's more interesting projects out there.

Q3W seems to have worked just fine for the last 10 years.

Why do anything about it now?
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PostPosted: 07-06-2022 01:46 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


A relic like some of us :)



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Whiskey 7 wrote:
A relic like some of us :)


I hope you're speaking for yourself !
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Whiskey 7
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glossy wrote:
Whiskey 7 wrote:
A relic like some of us :)


I hope you're speaking for yourself !


Raises hand answering yes but then I see you visit after 5 years absence and in another thread, moving AU to USA :rolleyes:
By 'relic' I was trying to infer endearment and yes perhaps historical interest.



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