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bork[e]
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PostPosted: 02-26-2005 08:22 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Tried using Firefox for a few months with not much luck at all. There are my extensions, themes, tweaks to be used with this browser, but on this POS computer I'm on nothing much helped.

Got back on IE a few weeks ago and everything was back to normal, but using the tabbed browsing for the past few months was something I was really messing.

Jumped on Netscape 7.2 just about an hour ago and so far it runs and loads without problems. So what's the word on this browser, I know very few people that use Netscape but I'm liking the hell out of it.


also, is there as many themes/extensions with netscape as there is with Firefox? I just haven't had the time to browse for them yet.
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PostPosted: 02-26-2005 08:51 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Netscape is basically a dumbed down version of Mozilla Firefox with a bunch of crap added, no....?

Liked IE and tabed browsing? Try Maxthon. :icon14:
http://www.maxthon.com/
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PostPosted: 02-26-2005 09:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


There is a load of crap installed with Netscape, but I'm liking it so far. Scourge sent me that maxthon link awhile back but didn't feal like messing with it at the time, guess I'll check that one out.

One question, is Maxthon a totaly seprate browser...or does IE run it or what?

edit: buh bye Netsape, should have messed around with Maxton a little more last week. :icon32:




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er both sorta. :)

It uses the IE engine.

It dosen't mess up your IE if that's what your asking. :)
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bork[e] wrote:
Tried using Firefox for a few months with not much luck at all.


lol...moron?
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Freakaloin wrote:
lol...moron?


bork[e] wrote:
but on this POS computer I'm on nothing much helped.


Something like that.
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Freakaloin wrote:
bork[e] wrote:
Tried using Firefox for a few months with not much luck at all.


lol...moron?


Are you being cynical because he gave up on it? Or because you think be was a moron for trying it?
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giving up on it...



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firefox > *

I only installed Nutscrape to test my website's compatibility, which ofcourse was flawless, but other then that, it takes ages to load and lacks functionality



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PostPosted: 02-26-2005 09:42 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The newest Netscape is is just firefox with a fugly green skin and some useless info bars.
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I fucking hate IE. It has become the bastard child of web browsers and MS needs to update their shit already. There is all kinds of web design shit that you either can't do with IE or have to create JS behavior files to force-feed it the proper functionality.

Firefox > *
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bitWISE wrote:
I fucking hate IE. It has become the bastard child of web browsers and MS needs to update their shit already. There is all kinds of web design shit that you either can't do with IE or have to create JS behavior files to force-feed it the proper functionality.

Firefox > *


Actually, you are correct. IE is very linuent on the coding of a hypertext document. Firefox requires HTML 4.0 and a valid W3C document for correct viewing.
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dmmh wrote:
firefox > *



wait werent you the big proponent of IE?

google says yes:

your quotations:

"IE > * "

"thats why I prefer IE, i just point it to my IE upon reinstall and my desktop, docs and favs are all back"

"yes, you need all kinds of plugins to make it fucntion like a ordinary browser would" [in reference to FF]

soapboy: Originally posted by SOAPboy:
no.. were not clueless.. we just dont like browsers that are slow, choppy, and fuck up webpages..[in reference to FF]

"for once, I have to agree with u"

Im glad that after trying to fight it for a long time with us you've come to see the light ;)
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4g3nt_Smith wrote:
The newest Netscape is is just firefox with a fugly green skin and some useless info bars.


And that is impossible to do anything about so it's useless.
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PostPosted: 02-26-2005 11:46 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Firefox owns, highly suggest it.
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Maxthon is where it's at.
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I've been using Firefox for a couple months now, and while I enjoy it, IE loads web content noticeably faster.

Is Maxthon susceptible to IE exploits? If not that's great.. I'd love to be using an IE engine again.
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Well it's supposedly more secure but it still uses ActiveX so you make the call... :p

Install SpywareBlaster that will block all bad ActiveX controls from ever installing and you're already 90% secure... (it will also block a bunch of restricted sites, marked as bad) Spybot S & D will also help, as will regular scanning for bad BHO's and other components with HijackThis.

Enable the hosts file in Spybot S & D

Microsoft's AntiSpyware has a ton of features tailored for protecting and cleaning IE.

Both Spybot & Microsoft's offering have real time protection (like 'TeaTimer' in Spybot) but personally I have no need for it... it probably does suck up a tiny bit of resources.

EDIT: What I'm trying to say is, my Maxthon is just as secure as Firefox. :icon31: It also has a wide range of plugins available for download and it comes with an ad/popup manager that is just as good as Ad block for Firefox.




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Chupacabra wrote:
dmmh wrote:
firefox > *



wait werent you the big proponent of IE?

google says yes:

your quotations:

"IE > * "

"thats why I prefer IE, i just point it to my IE upon reinstall and my desktop, docs and favs are all back"

"yes, you need all kinds of plugins to make it fucntion like a ordinary browser would" [in reference to FF]

soapboy: Originally posted by SOAPboy:
no.. were not clueless.. we just dont like browsers that are slow, choppy, and fuck up webpages..[in reference to FF]

"for once, I have to agree with u"

Im glad that after trying to fight it for a long time with us you've come to see the light ;)


:D

I like to argue, sue me ;)



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PostPosted: 02-26-2005 01:27 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I love Firefox. Once I adjusted the network settings, it loads pages just as fast as IE ever did, and I don't have to have 3rd party software to stop popups.
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Bork you might want to try Mozilla 1.4. I personally had problems with firefox in that it loaded pages incorrectly half the time, but Mozilla 1.4 has and sitll does work almost flawless for me :)

If I remember correctly, Mozilla is a bit more basic than Firefox


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/ ... taller.exe
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R00k wrote:
I love Firefox. Once I adjusted the network settings, it loads pages just as fast as IE ever did, and I don't have to have 3rd party software to stop popups.


And all the tweaks are done in-browser using XML instead of in your registry.
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Yea I thought that was rather cool too. :icon14:
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about:config is ur friend fag0ts...



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IE: free, built in, no work.
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And all the adware/spyware anybody wants to write destroys it.
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Firefox has some SERIOUS problems running certain kinds of ActiveX/JScript pages (e.g. running pages off the webserver on an IP Camera). CPU usage shoots up to a constant 50% on a machine with a hyper-threaded processor and 100% on a machine with a normal processor. IE doesn't have this problem.

Other than that, I'm pretty happy with Firefox.
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if you're going to use IE why not use MyIE2
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Yea, I consider it a small price to pay for a good browser, since I always have shitty IE to fall back on for things that don't seem to be compatible.
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Just use ie when needed and firefox for all, it's not the browsers fault but people who use frontpage and then don't check how it looks on other browsers.
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FlamingTP wrote:
IE: free, built in, no work.


Firefox: free, 1 install, MUCH less vulnerabilities, hence less work in the long run.
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dzjepp wrote:
Maxthon is where it's at.


/signed


Been using Maxthon (Myie2) Since it was beta.. ill never switch back..
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What are the advantages of Maxthon when compared to Firefox?
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SplishSplash wrote:
What are the advantages of Maxthon when compared to Firefox?


well..

You know how firefox fucks up some websites, maxthon dont.. thats about it..

maxthon has all the same shit firefox does.. maybe minus the google mail toolbar thing.. dunno tho, i dont use and wouldnt use something like that..
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riddla wrote:
IE7 will be out soon and I'll bet money it steals all the best features found in the alternatives.


Why should anything change? M$ was built on stealing ideas.
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