so that justifies it all?

lol whos upset now? you've added nothing to this conversation.

way to fall on personal attacks when you have nothing else to say. you're a winner.

... and I'm posting garbage.

I believe it absolutely contributes. However I feel very strongly that ALL people (black/white/hispanic/whatever) should be held accountable for their actions (with certain exceptions of course).

And do you not call them black because you think calling them dark skinned people makes it sound more racially enlightened?

if you had bothered to click the link and look at that data, you would realize i don't have to 'think' anything. Statistically, a higher percentage of blacks commit crimes in America.

No cop is going to turn the other way if someones been murdered. A violent crime is just that; violent. The majority of officers will look at it just like that.

I respect the people who have chosen to protect our society. I wont let the misgivings of a few affect my opinion of the police as a whole. For the most part they are there to look out for people.

I can’t remember the last time a police officer had to worry about patrolling a white neighborhood because rocks where thrown at him... the same cant be said about a black neighborhood

If it really bothers you so much, I’m sure we could discus Russel Timoshenko's situation last week. If you're unaware, he was a cop shot in the face by a two-time ex-con out on parole.

Oh and sorry I didn't reply quickly enough for you. Some of us have real jobs that require a certain level of responsibility and can’t patrol q3w all day.

That was the most confusing post ever.

That was the most confusing post ever.

well yea, living in washington dc, i must have quite a few white neighbors. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington ... mographics
hint: 62% black

douchebag. 3 of my 5 roommates are black and this topic has come up in discussion before with them.

One of my first nights out here in DC, i got lost in 'South East'. I was stopped by two black police officers who where kind enough to tell me "you don't want to be in this area." They brought me to the metro and sent me on my way. Three weeks ago one of my neighbors was shot, she was 63 and being mugged. She died the next day. I've been robbed twice in 4 years, and I live in the 'good' area of DC. so fuck right off.

No one I know in UK or Japan has been shot, Ive never been robbed, neither has anyone I know.

Ive spent alot of time in certain black areas in London, and the only crimes I saw were my white friends smoking marijuana. So I guess the crime isnt related to the race of the people living there.

There is kind of a good point I was trying to get at this morning only from a different set of experience and put less confusing than mine....lol

I would like to know why it "seems" that blacks in nations other than America get along better with everyone around them?

I believe the most important fact as to why black America is perceived to run counter to white will is that American nationalism developed well before the end of slavery. The slave cultures were never included as part of America except in the rare instances when it had something revolutionary to offer--music for instance. American nationalism has never been inclusive, it's always been conservative and suspicious.

Fast forward to today when whites look upon the stereotypical black ghetto dwelling, welfare mooching, broken family experience as counter-American dream/hard work/stable families (and all of that other nonsense), apply that stereotype to the whole and invent an ideal of a black culture that's incapable and unwanting of integration. Now cram a vast majority of these people with their unpopular culture into the worst urban areas with rampant drug use, little money, weak communities and no hope, and you've just set up a situation where cops (regardless of their view of what constitutes "America") can't help but shoot the proverbial fish in a barrel.

Now, of course, if America were truly the melting pot it claims to be, none of that would exist. Universalism is happy a buzzword people throw around to insist their culture is open and inviting, but at some point a dominate culture arises that lays down exactly what is and is not socially acceptable.



It just so happens that American nationalism was designed around white culture, but the US is no different than European nations where immigration challenges racially based traditions of the Nation from one end and long established provincial "white" cultures with their own historical and language traditions challenge it from the other.

Now cram a vast majority of these people with their unpopular culture into the worst urban areas with rampant drug use, little money, weak communities and no hope, and you've just set up a situation where cops (regardless of their view of what constitutes "America") can't help but shoot the proverbial fish in a barrel.

I think for a small part it's because there's still quite a lot of blatant racism against blacks in the US. It used to be a lot worse of course, but it's there.

For a bigger part, i think it's because the whole racism thing has over time created a sort of victim role out of which it's very hard to escape. Feeling sorry for yourself makes you feel good. It offers all kinds of excuses not to do or to do stuff. Other immigrant groups don't have this as strongly, and usually fare better.

I've not got time to continue this at the moment, but I did skim the Malcolm X speech. He's always struck me as having been far too much of a separatist to accomplish anything. Many people I hear speaking about racial issues these days makes it sooooo divisive. Even the term "African-American" is a source of contention. Meh, I'll try to pick this up later.

Really, the difference between the black community and most other minority communities is their internal strength, not their willingness to integrate into the dominant culture.

I've not got time to continue this at the moment, but I did skim the Malcolm X speech. He's always struck me as having been far too much of a separatist to accomplish anything.

Many people I hear speaking about racial issues these days makes it sooooo divisive. Even the term "African-American" is a source of contention.