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tnf
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Posted: 02-13-2005 01:14 PM

Never played an MMORPG before, never really interested because it seemed like all of them required about 100+ hours of gameplay before your character was strong enough to kill a mouse without getting your ass kicked...

People have told me that WoW is different - that it is a game that is fun to play regardless of the level you are at, and that the gameplay is fun enough that 'leveling up' is not really a boring chore.

Is it worth buying if you aren't looking to play it a ridiculous amount of time each week?

Also, in regards to combat, is it all turned based RPG type stuff - or is it more Diablo like?

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DooMer
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Posted: 02-13-2005 01:46 PM

Its turn based, and it does get pretty boring. not just the lvling, but the combat and the quests. I liked it until about lvl 30 then it hit me like a ton of heavy things.

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rgoer
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Posted: 02-13-2005 02:10 PM

wait, it's not turn based... it's totally real-time

if you enjoyed diablo, you will enjoy world of warcraft

be careful though, the addiction profiles are exactly the same... if diablo stole all your time, warcraft will take even more

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OverRide
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Posted: 02-13-2005 02:23 PM

I've only played the WoW beta, which only lasted for a couple of days, and had fun with it. I did, however found it boring after a while because of the quests. Kill a few monsters, pick up a few items and return to town to get some money and exp. Repeat that 30 times and you can go to the next city. I still think leveling up is an important factor in the game because otherwise you cant complete those boring quest.
So yeah, you have to put some time in it.

As I said before I've only played the game for a few days so I might missed out the fun things

You might wanna take a look at guildwars tho.
afaik you can only lvl up to lvl 20, so thats not really an important factor to the game. Haven't played it tho, so cant really tell you alot about it.

edit: and it has no monthly fee, which doesnt really force you to play the game.

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Seg
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Posted: 02-13-2005 02:24 PM

Actually it is turn based but it has a much better feel than like a NWN. It feels like a hack-n-slash.

Leveling is not bad at all. The thing I found hard at first was managing aggro. At low levels you can not take on more than 1 mob at a time. But that gets easier as you level.

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rgoer
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Posted: 02-13-2005 02:34 PM

Where do you get this idea that it's turn-based?

Everyone can act at the exact same instant. Just because you can only perform one action at any given time doesn't mean that it's turn based...

Through movement and positioning on the field you can prevent opponents from getting to act... that doesn't seem particularly turn-based to me.

Maybe I'm just not understanding what you guys mean by "turn based"?

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Seg
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Posted: 02-13-2005 04:56 PM

From the combat log... That's why damage per second is more important than the damage alone. I believe that weapon speed determines attacks per round or something.

All I can find at Blizzard is this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/combat.html which is really vague.

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Mogul
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Posted: 02-13-2005 05:21 PM

It's semi-turn-based.

You select what you want to do from a menu, like any other rpg, then, you'll do it continuously (once ever few seconds) until you tell your character to do something else.

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dzjepp
It felt good...

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Posted: 02-13-2005 05:53 PM

There should be a mmorpg that you can play like Quake 3. Have total freedom in the movement and the combat. If there was a Quake-like massive online game I would probably subscribe to one.

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plained
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Posted: 02-13-2005 05:57 PM

i like when you say quake 3

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LXS
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Posted: 02-13-2005 06:06 PM

Its a good game so far - really enjoying it...

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FlamingTP
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Posted: 02-13-2005 07:56 PM

Too bad planet side sucked.

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U4EA
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Posted: 02-14-2005 12:22 AM

Hey tnf, if you're not into grinding and just want to have fun, I think Guild Wars would be well suited for you. Check out the local Guild Wars thread here. There's a closed beta event starting on Friday, and Seg mentioned something about a one-time friend key which you can ask him for.

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MKJ
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Posted: 02-14-2005 01:12 AM

U4EA wrote:
Hey tnf, if you're not into grinding and just want to have fun, I think Guild Wars would be well suited for you. Check out the local Guild Wars thread here. There's a closed beta event starting on Friday, and Seg mentioned something about a one-time friend key which you can ask him for.

i have a feeling that game is gonna own. its diablo with more depth, and the secluded-quest-system sounds really good

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MKJ
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Posted: 02-14-2005 01:13 AM

Mogul wrote:
It's semi-turn-based.

You select what you want to do from a menu, like any other rpg, then, you'll do it continuously (once ever few seconds) until you tell your character to do something else.

sounds like baldurs gate's combat system

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U4EA
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Posted: 02-14-2005 01:14 AM

MKJ wrote:
i have a feeling that game is gonna own.

Most definitely, my clitoriffical compadre

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Transient
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Posted: 02-14-2005 02:43 AM

It's all about City of Heroes.

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U4EA
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Posted: 02-14-2005 02:52 AM

Haha, more like City of HOMOS!!!111

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moifah
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Posted: 02-14-2005 10:00 AM

You need to immerse yourself really to get the best experience. If you have a week free then get it, stock up on the essentials and get grinding.

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dzjepp
It felt good...

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Posted: 02-14-2005 10:04 AM

I want to play but have no key.TM

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Pauly
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Posted: 02-14-2005 11:24 AM

I am enjoying it.

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dzjepp
It felt good...

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Posted: 02-14-2005 12:30 PM

Oh shit, that key thing I posted was meant to go into the Guild Wars thread.

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rgoer
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Posted: 02-14-2005 01:53 PM

you're playing warcraft pauly?

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LXS
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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:14 AM

Just bumping this - been playing WOW far too much in the last few days - anyone from here on any UK servers? I seem to remember playing Diablo 2 back in the day was good fun with you lot...

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Pext
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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:21 AM

I'm allready lvl20 at the euro servers - did a bit slow though: tradeskills, questing etc.

But grinding is a lot of fun currently as the zones look totally awesome (I'm at Darkshore)

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Pext
Who's that man, Mommy?

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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:22 AM

Can't wait to get home from "work" ...

A friend of mine got banned for a day btw:

"Where is Goldshire?"
"In your mothers ass."

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LXS
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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:33 AM

Ah, i started 2 characters (the game kept dropping me and not letting me log back in with the same character for a while, so i kept swapping) - a dark elf priest and a human warlock - Level 10 and 12. You're right about the look of the areas - i've been to 2 of the big cities so far and they're both stunning...

I'm amazed by the sheer size of the game world... And since its a subscription game, they'll keep on releasing new content as long as people are still playing...

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Grudge
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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:48 AM

That's it. I'm fucking getting this game.

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Ryoki
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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:51 AM

Shit, i suppose you need a credit card for it, huh.

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MKJ
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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:53 AM

nope, you can buy cards with a serial on it that will last a month
sortof like prepaid

no matter, guild wars is where its at anyways :E no monthly fee = winner

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Pext
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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:53 AM

There's gametime cards with codes as well ...

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Ryoki
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Posted: 02-15-2005 02:58 AM

MKJ wrote:
nope, you can buy cards with a serial on it that will last a month
sortof like prepaid

What, like, in a store?

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MKJ
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Posted: 02-15-2005 03:00 AM

no, at a gym

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Ryoki
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Posted: 02-15-2005 03:01 AM

This whole games scene is so confusing

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Grudge
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Posted: 02-15-2005 03:43 AM

So, a lot of you Dutchees don't have credit cards?

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Its turn based, and it does get pretty boring. not just the lvling, but the combat and the quests. I liked it until about lvl 30 then it hit me like a ton of heavy things.

wait, it's not turn based... it's totally real-time if you enjoyed diablo, you will enjoy world of warcraft be careful though, the addiction profiles are exactly the same... if diablo stole all your time, warcraft will take even more

Actually it is turn based but it has a much better feel than like a NWN. It feels like a hack-n-slash. Leveling is not bad at all. The thing I found hard at first was managing aggro. At low levels you can not take on more than 1 mob at a time. But that gets easier as you level.

From the combat log... That's why damage per second is more important than the damage alone. I believe that weapon speed determines attacks per round or something. All I can find at Blizzard is this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/combat.html which is really vague.

It's semi-turn-based. You select what you want to do from a menu, like any other rpg, then, you'll do it continuously (once ever few seconds) until you tell your character to do something else.

There should be a mmorpg that you can play like Quake 3. Have total freedom in the movement and the combat. If there was a Quake-like massive online game I would probably subscribe to one.

i like when you say quake 3

Its a good game so far - really enjoying it...

Too bad planet side sucked.

Hey tnf, if you're not into grinding and just want to have fun, I think Guild Wars would be well suited for you. Check out the local Guild Wars thread here. There's a closed beta event starting on Friday, and Seg mentioned something about a one-time friend key which you can ask him for.

Mogul wrote:It's semi-turn-based.You select what you want to do from a menu, like any other rpg, then, you'll do it continuously (once ever few seconds) until you tell your character to do something else. sounds like baldurs gate's combat system

MKJ wrote:i have a feeling that game is gonna own. Most definitely, my clitoriffical compadre

It's all about City of Heroes.

Haha, more like City of HOMOS!!!111

You need to immerse yourself really to get the best experience. If you have a week free then get it, stock up on the essentials and get grinding.

I want to play but have no key.TM

I am enjoying it.

Oh shit, that key thing I posted was meant to go into the Guild Wars thread.

you're playing warcraft pauly?

Just bumping this - been playing WOW far too much in the last few days - anyone from here on any UK servers? I seem to remember playing Diablo 2 back in the day was good fun with you lot...

I'm allready lvl20 at the euro servers - did a bit slow though: tradeskills, questing etc. But grinding is a lot of fun currently as the zones look totally awesome (I'm at Darkshore)

Can't wait to get home from "work" ... A friend of mine got banned for a day btw: "Where is Goldshire?" "In your mothers ass."

That's it. I'm fucking getting this game.

Shit, i suppose you need a credit card for it, huh.

nope, you can buy cards with a serial on it that will last a month sortof like prepaid no matter, guild wars is where its at anyways :E no monthly fee = winner

There's gametime cards with codes as well ...

MKJ wrote:nope, you can buy cards with a serial on it that will last a monthsortof like prepaid What, like, in a store?

no, at a gym

This whole games scene is so confusing

So, a lot of you Dutchees don't have credit cards?

wait, it's not turn based... it's totally real-time

if you enjoyed diablo, you will enjoy world of warcraft

be careful though, the addiction profiles are exactly the same... if diablo stole all your time, warcraft will take even more

Actually it is turn based but it has a much better feel than like a NWN. It feels like a hack-n-slash.

Leveling is not bad at all. The thing I found hard at first was managing aggro. At low levels you can not take on more than 1 mob at a time. But that gets easier as you level.

From the combat log... That's why damage per second is more important than the damage alone. I believe that weapon speed determines attacks per round or something.

All I can find at Blizzard is this: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/faq/combat.html which is really vague.

It's semi-turn-based.

You select what you want to do from a menu, like any other rpg, then, you'll do it continuously (once ever few seconds) until you tell your character to do something else.

Mogul wrote:
It's semi-turn-based.

You select what you want to do from a menu, like any other rpg, then, you'll do it continuously (once ever few seconds) until you tell your character to do something else.

sounds like baldurs gate's combat system

MKJ wrote:
i have a feeling that game is gonna own.

Most definitely, my clitoriffical compadre

I'm allready lvl20 at the euro servers - did a bit slow though: tradeskills, questing etc.

But grinding is a lot of fun currently as the zones look totally awesome (I'm at Darkshore)

Can't wait to get home from "work" ...

A friend of mine got banned for a day btw:

"Where is Goldshire?"
"In your mothers ass."

nope, you can buy cards with a serial on it that will last a month
sortof like prepaid

no matter, guild wars is where its at anyways :E no monthly fee = winner

MKJ wrote:
nope, you can buy cards with a serial on it that will last a month
sortof like prepaid

What, like, in a store?