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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 08-25-2014 11:15 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


scared? wrote:
But since second hand smoke is unproven bullshit I don't care if ppl smoke that shit around them...


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Epidemiological studies show that non-smokers exposed to second-hand smoke are at risk for many of the health problems associated with direct smoking. Most of the research has come from studies of nonsmokers who are married to a smoker. Those conclusions are also backed up by further studies of workplace exposure to smoke.

In 1992, the Journal of the American Medical Association published a review of available evidence on the relationship between second-hand smoke and heart disease, and estimated that second-hand smoke exposure was responsible for 35,000 to 40,000 deaths per year in the United States in the early 1980s.[58] The absolute risk increase of heart disease due to ETS was 2.2%, while the attributable risk percent was 23%.

Research using more exact measures of second-hand smoke exposure suggests that risks to non-smokers may be even greater than this estimate. A British study reported that exposure to second-hand smoke increases the risk of heart disease among non-smokers by as much as 60%, similar to light smoking.[59] Evidence also shows that inhaled sidestream smoke, the main component of second-hand smoke, is about four times more toxic than mainstream smoke. This fact has been known to the tobacco industry since the 1980s, though it kept its findings secret. Some scientists believe that the risk of passive smoking, in particular the risk of developing coronary heart diseases, may have been substantially underestimated

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The National Asthma Council of Australia cites studies showing that second-hand smoke is probably the most important indoor pollutant, especially around young children:

  • Smoking by either parent, particularly by the mother, increases the risk of asthma in children.
  • The outlook for early childhood asthma is less favourable in smoking households.
  • Children with asthma who are exposed to smoking in the home generally have more severe disease.
  • Many adults with asthma identify ETS as a trigger for their symptoms.
  • Doctor-diagnosed asthma is more common among non-smoking adults exposed to ETS than those not exposed. Among people with asthma, higher ETS exposure is associated with a greater risk of severe attacks.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking#Evidence

Fuck you Geoff. Fuck you and let them take away your children before they all die of heart failure or lung cancer.




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PostPosted: 08-25-2014 11:25 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


secondhand smoke is to smokers what global warming is to republicans.




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 03:21 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Second hand smoke is unproven bullshit... Read more and grow up...




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Deadbeat druggo in denial.



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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 05:00 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


One study that has since been destroyed and u morons... "WANT TO BELIEVE"... Grow up chumps... :olo: ...




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Canadian Shaft
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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 05:29 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Wow. Every time Geoke posts we get further proof that he is an absolute knuckle-dragging moran.




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 05:43 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The 1992/1993 epa report that declared second hand smoke a carcinogen and kills 3,000 ppl a year was made null and void by a federal court in 1998... Second hand smoke is unproven bullshit... Literally...

Grow up moron...




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scared? wrote:
The 1992/1993 epa report that declared second hand smoke a carcinogen and kills 3,000 ppl a year was made null and void by a federal court in 1998... Second hand smoke is unproven bullshit... Literally...

Grow up moron...

^near future Darwin Award winner

Man I feel sorry for your kids.


p.s. way to fall for Big Tobacco propaganda machine. :olo:

(holy shit you are dumb)




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Canadian Shaft
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Evidence
Exposure to secondhand smoke by age, race, and poverty level in the US.

Epidemiological studies show that non-smokers exposed to second-hand smoke are at risk for many of the health problems associated with direct smoking. Most of the research has come from studies of nonsmokers who are married to a smoker. Those conclusions are also backed up by further studies of workplace exposure to smoke.[57]

In 1992, the Journal of the American Medical Association published a review of available evidence on the relationship between second-hand smoke and heart disease, and estimated that second-hand smoke exposure was responsible for 35,000 to 40,000 deaths per year in the United States in the early 1980s.[58] The absolute risk increase of heart disease due to ETS was 2.2%, while the attributable risk percent was 23%.

Research using more exact measures of second-hand smoke exposure suggests that risks to non-smokers may be even greater than this estimate. A British study reported that exposure to second-hand smoke increases the risk of heart disease among non-smokers by as much as 60%, similar to light smoking.[59] Evidence also shows that inhaled sidestream smoke, the main component of second-hand smoke, is about four times more toxic than mainstream smoke. This fact has been known to the tobacco industry since the 1980s, though it kept its findings secret.[60][61][62][63] Some scientists believe that the risk of passive smoking, in particular the risk of developing coronary heart diseases, may have been substantially underestimated.[64]

A minority of epidemiologists have found it hard to understand how second-hand smoke, which is more diluted than actively inhaled smoke, could have an effect that is such a large fraction of the added risk of coronary heart disease among active smokers.[65][66] One proposed explanation is that second-hand smoke is not simply a diluted version of "mainstream" smoke, but has a different composition with more toxic substances per gram of total particulate matter.[65] Passive smoking appears to be capable of precipitating the acute manifestations of cardio-vascular diseases (atherothrombosis) and may also have a negative impact on the outcome of patients who suffer acute coronary syndromes.[67]

In 2004, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) of the World Health Organization (WHO) reviewed all significant published evidence related to tobacco smoking and cancer. It concluded:

These meta-analyses show that there is a statistically significant and consistent association between lung cancer risk in spouses of smokers and exposure to second-hand tobacco smoke from the spouse who smokes. The excess risk is of the order of 20% for women and 30% for men and remains after controlling for some potential sources of bias and confounding.[3]

Subsequent meta-analyses have confirmed these findings,[68][69] and additional studies have found that high overall exposure to passive smoke even among people with non-smoking partners is associated with greater risks than partner smoking and is widespread in non-smokers.[59]

The National Asthma Council of Australia cites studies showing that second-hand smoke is probably the most important indoor pollutant, especially around young children:[70]

Smoking by either parent, particularly by the mother, increases the risk of asthma in children.
The outlook for early childhood asthma is less favourable in smoking households.
Children with asthma who are exposed to smoking in the home generally have more severe disease.
Many adults with asthma identify ETS as a trigger for their symptoms.
Doctor-diagnosed asthma is more common among non-smoking adults exposed to ETS than those not exposed. Among people with asthma, higher ETS exposure is associated with a greater risk of severe attacks.

In France, exposure to second-hand smoke has been estimated to cause between 3,000[71] and 5,000 premature deaths per year, with the larger figure cited by Prime minister Dominique de Villepin during his announcement of a nationwide smoke-free law: "That makes more than 13 deaths a day. It is an unacceptable reality in our country in terms of public health."[72]

There is good observational evidence that smoke-free legislation reduces the number of hospital admissions for heart disease.[73] In 2009 two studies in the United States confirmed the effectiveness of public smoking bans in preventing heart attacks. The first study, carried out at the University of California, San Francisco and funded by the National Cancer Institute, found a 15 percent decline in heart-attack hospitalisations in the first year after smoke-free legislation was passed, and 36 percent after three years.[74] The second study, carried out at the University of Kansas School of Medicine, showed similar results.[75] Overall, women, non-smokers, and people under age 60 had the most heart attack risk reduction. Many of those benefiting were hospitality and entertainment industry workers.[76]
Risk level

The International Agency for Research on Cancer of the World Health Organization concluded in 2004 that there was sufficient evidence that second-hand smoke caused cancer in humans.[3] Most experts conclude that moderate, occasional exposure to second-hand smoke presents a modest but measurable cancer risk to nonsmokers. The overall risk depends on the effective dose received over time. The risk level is higher if non-smokers spend many hours in an environment where cigarette smoke is widespread, such as a business where many employees or patrons are smoking throughout the day, or a residential care facility where residents smoke freely.[77] The US Surgeon General, in his 2006 report, estimated that living or working in a place where smoking is permitted increases the non-smokers' risk of developing heart disease by 25–30% and lung cancer by 20–30%.
Biomarkers
Breath CO monitor displaying carbon monoxide concentration of an exhaled breath sample (in ppm) with corresponding percent concentration of carboxyhemoglobin displayed below.

Environmental tobacco smoke can be evaluated either by directly measuring tobacco smoke pollutants found in the air or by using biomarkers, an indirect measure of exposure. Carbon monoxide monitored through breath, nicotine, cotinine, thiocyanates, and proteins are the most specific biological markers of tobacco smoke exposure.[78][79] Biochemical tests are a much more reliable biomarker of second-hand smoke exposure than surveys. Certain groups of people are reluctant to disclose their smoking status and exposure to tobacco smoke, especially pregnant women and parents of young children. This is due to their smoking being socially unacceptable. Also, it may be difficult for individuals to recall their exposure to tobacco smoke.[80]

A 2007 study in the Addictive Behaviors Journal found a positive correlation between second-hand tobacco smoke exposure and concentrations of nicotine and/or biomarkers of nicotine in the body. Significant biological levels of nicotine from second-hand smoke exposure were equivalent to nicotine levels from active smoking and levels that are associated with behaviour changes due to nicotine consumption.[81]
Cotinine

Cotinine, the metabolite of nicotine, is a biomarker of second-hand smoke exposure. Typically, cotinine is measured in the blood, saliva, and urine. Hair analysis has recently become a new, noninvasive measurement technique. Cotinine accumulates in hair during hair growth, which results in a measure of long-term, cumulative exposure to tobacco smoke.[82] Urinary cotinine levels have been a reliable biomarker of tobacco exposure and have been used as a reference in many epidemiological studies. However, cotinine levels found in the urine only reflect exposure over the preceding 48 hours. Cotinine levels of the skin, such as the hair and nails, reflect tobacco exposure over the previous three months and are a more reliable biomarker.[78]
Carbon monoxide (CO)

Carbon monoxide monitored via breath is also a reliable biomarker of second-hand smoke exposure as well as tobacco use. With high sensitivity and specificity, it not only provides an accurate measure, but the test is also non-invasive, highly reproducible, and low in cost. Breath CO monitoring measures the concentration of CO in an exhalation in parts per million, and this can be directly correlated to the blood CO concentration (carboxyhemoglobin).[83] Breath CO monitors can also be used by emergency services to identify patients who are suspected of having CO poisoning.
Pathophysiology

A 2004 study by the International Agency for Research on Cancer of the World Health Organization concluded that non-smokers are exposed to the same carcinogens as active smokers. Sidestream smoke contains more than 4,000 chemicals, including 69 known carcinogens. Of special concern are polynuclear aromatic hydrocarbons, tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines, and aromatic amines, such as 4-aminobiphenyl, all known to be highly carcinogenic. Mainstream smoke, sidestream smoke, and second-hand smoke contain largely the same components, however the concentration varies depending on type of smoke.[3] Several well-established carcinogens have been shown by the tobacco companies' own research to be present at higher concentrations in sidestream smoke than in mainstream smoke.[84]

Second-hand smoke has been shown to produce more particulate-matter (PM) pollution than an idling low-emission diesel engine. In an experiment conducted by the Italian National Cancer Institute, three cigarettes were left smoldering, one after the other, in a 60 m³ garage with a limited air exchange. The cigarettes produced PM pollution exceeding outdoor limits, as well as PM concentrations up to 10-fold that of the idling engine.[85]

Tobacco smoke exposure has immediate and substantial effects on blood and blood vessels in a way that increases the risk of a heart attack, particularly in people already at risk.[86] Exposure to tobacco smoke for 30 minutes significantly reduces coronary flow velocity reserve in healthy nonsmokers.[87]

Pulmonary emphysema can be induced in rats through acute exposure to sidestream tobacco smoke (30 cigarettes per day) over a period of 45 days.[88] Degranulation of mast cells contributing to lung damage has also been observed.[89]

The term "third-hand smoke" was recently coined to identify the residual tobacco smoke contamination that remains after the cigarette is extinguished and second-hand smoke has cleared from the air.[90][91][92] Preliminary research suggests that by-products of third-hand smoke may pose a health risk,[93] though the magnitude of risk, if any, remains unknown. In October 2011, it was reported that Christus St. Frances Cabrini Hospital in Alexandria, Louisiana would seek to eliminate third-hand smoke beginning in July 2012, and that employees whose clothing smelled of smoke would not be allowed to work. This prohibition was enacted because third-hand smoke poses a special danger for the developing brains of infants and small children.[94]

In 2008, there were more than 161,000 deaths attributed to lung cancer in the United States. Of these deaths, an estimated 10% to 15% were caused by factors other than first-hand smoking; equivalent to 16,000 to 24,000 deaths annually. Slightly more than half of the lung cancer deaths caused by factors other than first-hand smoking were found in nonsmokers. Lung cancer in non-smokers may well be considered one of the most common cancer mortalities in the United States. Clinical epidemiology of lung cancer has linked the primary factors closely tied to lung cancer in non-smokers as exposure to second-hand tobacco smoke, carcinogens including radon, and other indoor air pollutants.[95]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passive_smoking#Evidence

just quit at life already dumb-dumb




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The Heartland Institute is "the world’s most prominent think tank promoting skepticism about man-made climate change.”

— The Economist, May 26, 2012

lmao




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 06:26 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Survey Results: A telephone survey conducted in 2014 found 77 percent of Republican state legislators and 72 percent of Democratic state legislators read one or more Heartland newspapers "sometimes" or "always." Two-thirds of state legislators (70 percent of Republicans and 62 percent of Democrats) said they found Heartland's newspapers a "useful source of information." Thirty-nine percent of Republicans and 30 percent of Democrats reported a Heartland publication changed their opinion or led to a change in public policy. Approximately 160 elected officials -- Democrats as well as Republicans -- serve on Heartland's Board of Legislative Advisors.

:olo:




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 06:48 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Oh no... The jew is mad... :olo: ...

There are dozens of other links I could provide... But like most other Jews... U got problems with reality... :olo: ...




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 06:54 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Also... "Third hand smoke "...

Holy fuck. :olo: ... Grow the fuck up u genocidal Jew...




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$10 says geoff thinks his kid got aspergers from a vaccine.




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 07:01 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


This is why I couldn't vote for SOM as dumbest q3w poster.




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shaft wrote:
$10 says geoff thinks his kid got aspergers from a vaccine.


Conspiracy theory morons :olo: ...




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 07:09 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
This is why I couldn't vote for SOM as dumbest q3w poster.


A Palestinian murdering moron says what?... :olo: ...




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 08:12 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


scared? wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
This is why I couldn't vote for SOM as dumbest q3w poster.


A Palestinian murdering moron says what?... :olo: ...

Hey super-mong... I' not a Zionist and I don't support Israel financially or in any other way. You on the other hand are paying for the bombs and bullets (American made too) with your tax dollars. So who is the one killing Palestinians?

You lose as always. How do you manage to be dumber than the ditch you live in?




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 09:49 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I don't even smoke around my dog.




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It's odd because Geoff is the second hand smoke of this board; his posts give you cancer. Fact.




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 11:45 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Not funny... Grow up...




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horrible parent...take some parenting classes maybe? also, grow up...




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PostPosted: 08-26-2014 02:33 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I have dozens of shirts, mugs plaques etc that say I'm father of the year... So no I win...

Plus my kids live with me... :olo: ...




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No, you live with them :olo:




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:olo:




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:olo: ... blow me morons...




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scared? wrote:
I have dozens of shirts, mugs plaques etc that say I'm father of the year... So no I win...

Plus my kids live with me... :olo: ...


Your children openly hate living with you though.



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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
This is why I couldn't vote for SOM as dumbest q3w poster.


Moderator I need to change my vote on that poll; I can't so please arrange :)



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scared? wrote:
Not funny... Grow up...


I lol'd. You should try smoking an entire pack of cigarettes simultaneously. It's really fun. Your lungs will thank you.




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Whiskey 7 wrote:
Obviously, post here :rolleyes:


:olo:




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parenting 101



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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
This is why I couldn't vote for SOM as dumbest q3w poster.


yeah, this




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