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Messatsu Ko Jy-ouu
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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 12:28 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


http://kotaku.com/id-software-lives-dan ... 1627748043

err what;
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the ability to pick primary and secondary weapons to spawn with, HUD-based timers for item respawns, and an automated form of (previously very skill-based) strafe jumping.


Next up: regenerating health and a cover system!




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 12:44 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, I'm seeing the fingers of Bethesda in this.
Not that I was ever that taken with Live over vanilla Q3.




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 02:29 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ridiculous idea




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 02:32 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Consider my Jimmies rustled

I am mad




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The hell good boy
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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 02:58 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Quake Live gets pretty noobish. I am looking on the chages id soft made to QL, ruining the game with simplifying physics to make easier to bunny jump for example.



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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 06:09 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Carmack would never have allowed this.




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 06:42 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Carmack sold his soul long time



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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 08:47 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Memphis wrote:
Sounds fine. FFA is for chumpanzees.




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 10:21 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


SoM wrote:
Carmack sold his soul long time

Carmack knew when to leave a sinking ship.




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 10:22 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


MKJ wrote:
http://kotaku.com/id-software-lives-dangerously-decides-to-change-classi-1627748043

err what;
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the ability to pick primary and secondary weapons to spawn with, HUD-based timers for item respawns, and an automated form of (previously very skill-based) strafe jumping.


Next up: regenerating health and a cover system!

Terrible changes. This won't bring more people to Quake Live. Scare veterans off at best.




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 10:36 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


only affects TDM really... and you still pick up weaps in maps as normal - you just get some starting ones now. ALthough I'm not sure how well balanced that'll be if someone can choose to have a rail straight off the spawn...

Apparently the autojump is just a basic "hop" rather than a proper strafe jump so presumably it can be turned off? Haven't tried it yet but some friends say it's still not as fast/maneuverable as proper straffling.




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 11:03 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I fucked carmack's dad...




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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 11:10 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Read the full list here:
http://www.quakelive.com/forum/showthre ... st-27-2014

Some more changes from that post:
- No more friendly fire in TDM.
- spawn times for ammo is 5 secs and for weapons 10 in all game modes. This greatly reduces the need of weapon control in TDM.
- generic ammo boxes giving ammo for every weapon.
- A new "Heavy Machine gun" weapon, whatever that may be.
- Machine gun weapon is dropped when you get killed as ammo pickup.
- Many more noob friendly things

Also, spawning with two weapons of choice is killing the game. I've played on servers with MG plus SG or RL spawn and it ruins the game, especially the RL. It makes a freshly spawned player way too powerful.




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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 12:02 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


real men play duel and that remains unaffected except for the lg nerfing.




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Just another Earthling
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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 10:17 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Terrible changes. This won't bring more people to Quake Live. Scare veterans off at best.


:smirk: So this old veteran goes for a recon mission. If you're about, eyes open, mouth shut, then join me :up:



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PostPosted: 08-28-2014 10:27 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


:smirk: A big download when you connect so be warned.



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Etile
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PostPosted: 08-29-2014 03:35 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


oh my good god the unmitigated gayness :down:




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PostPosted: 08-30-2014 11:10 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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oh my good god the unmitigated gayness :down:


I dunno. Played a while, last 2 days & met people I haven't seen there in a while.

Yes, they may like me have been looking.

I was surprised to see no power-ups in the CTF Flag map Vortex Portal :eek:



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Etile
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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 03:09 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


new MG = not bad, especially with quad
powerup/armour countdown = dumb
loadout = super dumb

also noticed that in spite of the massive download, they removed most of the practice maps. wtf?




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Risen From The Ashes
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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 04:34 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


They're probably doing it to bring new players in with the Steam release coming soon.

Is it still possible to play the old style game mode?




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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 07:29 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


So I just tried the new "start with two weapons mode". I actually think it works really well, and helps prevent you getting spawn-raped. You don't spawn with much ammo so you do still need to go find another weapon.




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Etile
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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 10:23 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


yeah but it's still gay though right

RIGHT




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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 12:36 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
yeah but it's still gay though right

RIGHT


Love the new machine gun noise.



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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 01:16 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
yeah but it's still gay though right

RIGHT


Image




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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 11:41 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


PhoeniX wrote:
Is it still possible to play the old style game mode?

Apparently there's still servers running "classic mode".




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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 11:41 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
PhoeniX wrote:
Is it still possible to play the old style game mode?

Apparently there's still servers running "classic mode".



Where?



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PhoeniX wrote:
So I just tried the new "start with two weapons mode". I actually think it works really well, and helps prevent you getting spawn-raped. You don't spawn with much ammo so you do still need to go find another weapon.


The opposite is true as well, when you run around the map and someone spawns behind you and immediately starts raping you from behind with a rocket launcher.




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PostPosted: 08-31-2014 11:42 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey 7 wrote:
Eraser wrote:
Apparently there's still servers running "classic mode".



Where?


I don't know. It said so in the forum post I linked to.




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Etile
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PostPosted: 09-01-2014 03:34 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


also, the easy-peasy strafe-jumping has 'made for console poorons' written all over it

i mean, i was never a master of the SJ, but i was getting there, and now it's all for nothing :/




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Etile
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PostPosted: 09-12-2014 08:21 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


omg the new announcer voice is weak

duke3nukem :dork:




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Etile
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PostPosted: 09-12-2014 10:56 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Campgrounds?

i can't do that. not even close




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PostPosted: 09-12-2014 11:01 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You need to practice then, squire
Also Tourney 4 jumps and a host of others




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Etile
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PostPosted: 09-12-2014 12:59 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


"practice something to get good at it"

thanks, professor obvious :|




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seremtan wrote:
Campgrounds?

i can't do that. not even close


fuck man, weren't those trick jumps invented like 14 years ago?




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Black Magic
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PostPosted: 09-12-2014 11:43 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
PhoeniX wrote:
So I just tried the new "start with two weapons mode". I actually think it works really well, and helps prevent you getting spawn-raped. You don't spawn with much ammo so you do still need to go find another weapon.


The opposite is true as well, when you run around the map and someone spawns behind you and immediately starts raping you from behind with a rocket launcher.


That's pretty weak, suppose you could also get a spawn rail up the ass which would get annoying fast. Should have just started you with MG + SG, give the classic quake spawn weapon as an option. Starting you with the heavy stuff and the bonus health. :dork:




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