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PostPosted: 09-26-2018 08:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


what a twat :olo:
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What an embarrassment to humanity!
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I watched that documentary you mentioned, wasn't bad. I've done a lot of reading about he magnitsky act so I already knew a lot of it but caught a few things I didn't know. There aren't a lot of documentaries covering this yet cause it's still kinda new I guess. I'm kinda wondering what Michael Moore is going to come out with.
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Holy shit that Swetnick affidavit
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I watched that documentary you mentioned, wasn't bad. I've done a lot of reading about he magnitsky act so I already knew a lot of it but caught a few things I didn't know. There aren't a lot of documentaries covering this yet cause it's still kinda new I guess. I'm kinda wondering what Michael Moore is going to come out with.


Fahrenheit 11/9 is in theaters now.
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11/9? :paranoid:
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PostPosted: 09-26-2018 09:43 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The day after Drumpf won the election. November 8th, 2016 was voting day in America.
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I was confused. I knew Fahrenheit 9/11 and had no idea there was a new documentary called Fahrenheit 11/9.
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Κracus wrote:
I watched that documentary you mentioned, wasn't bad. I've done a lot of reading about he magnitsky act so I already knew a lot of it but caught a few things I didn't know. There aren't a lot of documentaries covering this yet cause it's still kinda new I guess. I'm kinda wondering what Michael Moore is going to come out with.


Fahrenheit 11/9 is in theaters now.


Cool shit, might have to go see it tonight.
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I thought the cool story to follow now was that Michael Moore was a lying sonofabitch who spun stories to make his lies even more extravagant. Or is that too 2004?
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Yeah... That might have some merit. I watched a documentary recently about that very subject and how they generally push a narrative and only show footage that helps that goal while ignoring anything that doesn't. Good idea to keep a neutral bias no matter which side you're viewing although as much as I've tried to keep an open mind about Trump I can't help but feel the ones portraying him as a narcissistic, incompetent moron may be more accurate than the ones showing him as a savvy business man helping the US economy.
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^^Agreed. Not to mention, he's always been a documented scumbag well before the presidency.
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Always remember: water is very wet.
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especially when it's liquid
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PostPosted: 09-28-2018 01:36 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Absolutely stunning



THIS MAN IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE USA

Unbelievable
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fuckin lol
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"Yes please, Mr Kurd" :olo:

:olo: President Trump :olo:
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:olo:

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At a fiery rally in West Virginia, President Donald Trump said that he and North Korean dictator Kim Jong Un “fell in love,” The Hill reports.

“I was really being tough and so was he. And we would go back and forth. And then we fell in love. No really. He wrote me beautiful letters. They were great letters. And then we fell in love.”


https://www.inquisitr.com/5094998/trump ... ationship/
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LOL what.
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vesp wrote:
Unbelievable


Not really
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In other news, 800,000 people registered to vote on voter registration day. Maybe this madness will come to an end.
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Holy shitballs...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/201 ... trump.html
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Yeah, if he's willing to try and con his own father we are all fucked!
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It's beyond me that a man like that can hold the title of president of the US. How does someone like that get into power with proper vetting?

I dunno, I've been thinking of a new form of government recently that I think would work great where all corporations are government owned. Basically, once approved or just naturally becoming so big the creator/owner gets a small royalty for life but a government organization takes over. They run the *insert corporation here* as ethically as possible since no profits earned goes to the government since they get their cut through taxes. The rest of the profits is shared amongst all the employees that choose to work there since they're all contributing their personal effort to produce for that corporation. Every human would get a base living income with jobs like this giving you spending money you can use for personal/luxury items. Anyone could become an entrepreneur so long as they have a solid business plan with the costs for the business being paid by the government, hence why they collect any profits until the costs of running the business are paid back.

Education could be free so anyone could have any job they want so long as they're qualified through taking free education.

From there the population doesn't vote for politicians but rather you vote for standard practices that would normally be decided by high level government officials, that way you get rid of personal biases and religious nonsense unless enough people vote for the nonsense which would be less likely since you wouldn't have lobbyists from corporations since they're government run. That's the basic idea anyway...
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Wow, that's really good Kracus. Have you thought about what you'd call it? It seems to be about community and society so, I don't know, maybe something in those veins with an -ism?
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Yeah it has a lot in common with socialism and communism except for the fact that individuals are encouraged to become entrepreneurs or to work for one because of the shared profits. That incentive to work is what drives this in a capitalistic market style because if no one wants to work for a company for a product that's highly valued then the value of that product is going to go higher which makes profits higher which gives people incentive to want to work there.
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Kracunomics
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LOL.
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Κracus wrote:
That incentive to work is what drives this in a capitalistic market style because if no one wants to work for a company for a product that's highly valued then the value of that product is going to go higher which makes profits higher which gives people incentive to want to work there.


Do you not see the failure in logic with this statement?
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I do not, care to explain?
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What Kracus is saying, when government takes over all big business and said big business is doing well because employees are working extra hard to produce "highly valued" products, government will equally distribute all increase in profit to the dedicated state employees.

Sounds plausible. Especially since government has been so great with budgeting money to date. :olo:
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Not exactly and that's also why I mentioned that management issues should be voted on rather than managed by an individual. By removing decisions from individual people and by making it based on votes you eliminate personal biases and decisions and make things standard for everyone.

What I mean by high value items is that if there's a limited number of those items and they're in demand then they'll have a higher value because the market will dictate those prices, thus profits for that company would rise because the product has a higher value.
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By removing decisions from individual people and by making it based on votes you eliminate personal biases and decisions and make things standard for everyone.


Yes, because history has shown that voting is always a purely fact-based decision with no emotions involved at all.
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Κracus wrote:
Not exactly and that's also why I mentioned that management issues should be voted on rather than managed by an individual. By removing decisions from individual people and by making it based on votes you eliminate personal biases and decisions and make things standard for everyone.

What I mean by high value items is that if there's a limited number of those items and they're in demand then they'll have a higher value because the market will dictate those prices, thus profits for that company would rise because the product has a higher value.


You believe that government would increase your pay after they take over big business and regulate production to create artificial higher values?

Interesting. I'm sure everyone would vote for that.
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Κracus wrote:
Not exactly and that's also why I mentioned that management issues should be voted on rather than managed by an individual. By removing decisions from individual people and by making it based on votes you eliminate personal biases and decisions and make things standard for everyone.

What I mean by high value items is that if there's a limited number of those items and they're in demand then they'll have a higher value because the market will dictate those prices, thus profits for that company would rise because the product has a higher value.


You believe that government would increase your pay after they take over big business and regulate production to create artificial higher values?

Interesting. I'm sure everyone would vote for that.


No, you're either putting words in my mouth or aren't understanding what I'm saying.

The whole point of this is to take money out of politics and what I'm suggesting is a more automated and ethical method of managing a business. They don't create artificial value, the value is dictated by the market directly. If no one wants to buy the product then the product doesn't sell for very much and would eventually stop being sold if no one is buying. The increase in pay is directly tied to the profitability of the product being sold. The more popular and higher priced the item is, the better the profits which gets passed down to those that directly aided with its production. Government has no say beyond recouping the base cost of running the business plus the taxes it would get from sales of the products.
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