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PostPosted: 08-14-2016 03:41 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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My current PC is 5 years old. I'm thinking about building a low end i5 6500 / GTX 1060 / 16 GB RAM machine for Overwatch, Diablo 3, and perhaps Doom. Thoughts? Merits of going 6600 or 6600k? I don't plan on overclocking. I'll be getting a new 144 Hz 1080p screen as well [either Asus VG248QE or BenQ XL2411Z]. So I don't plan on moving up to 1440p yet. I figure this should be enough to run current / near future [let's say a year out] games at 150fps+ @ 1080p on high settings? Of course, I don't expect that to last 2-3 years or more, but I'm OK with dropping to medium when the time comes. I don't want to spend GTX 1080 levels of money, and it seems the GTX 1070 is less vfm than the 1060. Wouldn't mind getting some input and advice, as I haven't been following PC component trends or reviews for many years.


Interesting read on the 1060 - I hae a 970 now so upgrading to a 1060 is a no go for me. It would be 1070 or 1080 for sure
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PostPosted: 08-14-2016 04:41 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I have a 560Ti so it'll be a massive jump either way.
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Money is usually what dictates a PC upgrade. Especially a gaming PC. I tell friends who are interested in upgrading to buy as many top tier components as they can. Because upgrading to outdated tech doesn't make any sense and just leads to immediate disappointments. When I upgrade, I try to buy strong base components (what I consider the most important parts) so there is a good foundation for future upgrades. I think the most important component to any PC upgrade/build is the PSU. Spending the money on a quality PSU with plenty of power output (850 to 1000 watts) is a solid investment that could save you money on future builds. The motherboard is the next component you should never cut corners buying. You should buy a quality unit with the latest/most supported form factor, making sure it has plenty of room for expansion and that it supports latest PCIE/USB/RAM etc. Everything else can be compromised for cost. But you should at least try to buy the latest generation. If you can't afford the latest generation right now it would better to save a bit longer than to buy outdated... Also buying a decent case is a good way to save few bucks on future builds.

U4EA, I don't know your budget. But here is a quality build that has the latest tech and offers the ability to upgrade for around $1000.00 USD. It's an 850watt PSU, LGA 1151 mobo, Core i7-6700, 32GB DDR4 2133, GTX 1060 and 480GB SSD. If you have a bigger budget I'd suggest a better mobo.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6817438018
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813157636
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6819117560
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6820231885
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814125901
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 2W04C63068

Cheers.
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Agree on the PSU 100%
I've got a good 650 watt pack currently but I'll be going to 850watt on the new build.

I'll be going AMD ZEN though. Not gone Intel for quite a number of years so I'm not up on what's what with them. Maybe I should investigate?
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PostPosted: 08-14-2016 07:24 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You should definitely check out the intel CPUs. They consistently out perform AMD.
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Wow...

Thanks!

#26 worldwide for 2-way SLI right now (fomoz).

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This thing hauls ass oh man!! :D
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You should definitely check out the intel CPUs. They consistently out perform AMD.


:up:

Until a change in the market happens you're much better off with Intel mate.



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YourGrandpa wrote:
You should definitely check out the intel CPUs. They consistently out perform AMD.


:up:

Until a change in the market happens you're much better off with Intel mate.


AMD Zen might change this but for now def Intel is best choice.
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Like the last bunch of chips, I expect them to close the gap marginally before losing it again.

I'd like it to succeed though, AMD gave me my 1st chip and Intel needs a competitor.



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PostPosted: 08-16-2016 11:21 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Was going to upgrade my mb/cpu/ram before BF1. Will Kaby Lake be out by then?
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PostPosted: 08-16-2016 08:05 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


i heard it was delayed til Jan 2017



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PostPosted: 08-16-2016 08:59 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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On its second quarter earnings call, Intel confirmed that it is now shipping Kaby Lake processors...

...No firm launch date has been announced, only that the benefits of the new chips will “come to premium devices in the second half of 2016”.


http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/ ... g-3641491/



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PostPosted: 08-16-2016 09:37 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


ToxicBug, should I wait for Kaby or just go Sky?
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shaft wrote:
ToxicBug, should I wait for Kaby or just go Sky?


I haven't read about it much yet, from what I can see it's just an optimization. If there's no new chipset releasing with Kaby Lake after Z170 then I don't see why not get a Skylake now. You can always get a new CPU later.

BTW I turned off G-Sync and got an extra 500 points :shrug:

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NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-5960X,ASRock X99 OC Formula/3.1

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NVIDIA Titan X (Pascal) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-5960X,ASRock X99 OC Formula/3.1 - Time Spy
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nevermind, i just realized you're the guy who spent over 1k on a cpu to play 3DBenchmark.
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shaft wrote:
nevermind, i just realized you're the guy who spent over 1k on a cpu to play 3DBenchmark.


It was just to check if my PC performs like it should. Of course I play games on it.
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You don't need a $1k 8 core cpu when a $300 quad will beat it every time for gaming. You spent an extra $700 for some scores on a benchmark. You probably have 32GB of ram also when its pretty much impossible for the average user to use 16.
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shaft wrote:
You don't need a $1k 8 core cpu when a $300 quad will beat it every time for gaming. You spent an extra $700 for some scores on a benchmark. You probably have 32GB of ram also when its pretty much impossible for the average user to use 16.


I got that CPU because I felt like it.

A few other reasons are potential massive multi-core improvements in DX12 and going with X99 gives 16X/16X PCI-E lanes for SLI, Z170 is only 8X/8X.

Good luck with your upgrade.
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That's interesting, thanks.
Your PC is impressive. Just not what a casual gamer like most people here would need. I didn't mean to sound like a dick, I just forgot you were that guy before I asked my original question.
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shaft wrote:
That's interesting, thanks.
Your PC is impressive. Just not what a casual gamer like most people here would need. I didn't mean to sound like I dick, I just forgot you were that guy before I asked my original question.


Thanks. I guess I'm not the best person to offer advice on mainstream PC builds, but I still try to stay up-to-date with technology :shrug:
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PostPosted: 08-18-2016 05:40 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


My current PC. I'm curious to see how much better my new build will do.




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i hear the new AMD zen will own server computing
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Q2 2017 ?, Intel will be onto a new manufacturing process by then.



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AMD is always projecting bigger and better things. But somehow ends up second best. I wouldn't be holding out for a superior AMD chip. You may never upgrade.
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losCHUNK wrote:
Q2 2017 ?, Intel will be onto a new manufacturing process by then.


I had read November for the Zen chips to come out :paranoid:
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I was on about their server variations (Naples core ?), like Intel Xeons competitor (Is it still Xeon ?).



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Ah right that makes sense
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No, you are right :(

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/08/ ... ease-date/
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New PC is up and running
Motherboard: Asrock Z170 OC Formula
CPU: Intel i7 6700K
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 64GB DDR4-3333 CAS Latency 15
GPU: EVGA Geforce GTX 980Ti 6GB
HDD1: Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 SSD 2200MBps Read/900MBPS Write
HDD2: Crucial MX200 500GB M.2 SSD 555MBPS Read/500MBPS Write
Water Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120m
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Not bad.
I just bought a PG348Q, 6800k, x99 deluxe and a Samsung 950.
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The Samsung 950 Pro is sick. Photoshop loads in about 1 second.
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It's funny how Gwamps is trying to brag about his budget build in a Pascal thread even though he doesn't even have a Pascal card.
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Looks like the prices haven't dropped at all this past month or so. I'm glad I baught it a while back and enjoying it, instead of hopelessly waiting for a better deal. By the looks of it, unless amd releases anything good, the prices are here to stay.... It's selling very well , so what's their incentive to drop pricing?
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