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One Man Army
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PostPosted: 06-08-2016 06:57 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


losCHUNK wrote:
DooMer wrote:
Once we get to a point where Scarlett Johanson doesn't have to play Japanese characters because Hollywood doesn't think they can sell a movie with an Asian lead, then we can focus on those things.


It's Scarlett Johanson.

For your other post -

The flip side to your arguement is, if you turn it into sex's for a second, you end up with silly shit like our Labour cabinet having a 50/50 split of males/females to appease the voices of under representation. I've worked for companys that have quotas on the amount of minorities they should recruit just so they can say they employ X amount and are so diverse. That's fucking racist to me, like it's some fucking handicap ?

Drawing the race line in the 1st place is the problem, and wether its films or games, for varying reasons, should be allowed the freedom to chose as they wish without having to appease X amount of sjw's.

I hate this white privlidge bullshit like it's some modern revelation that we've all been stuffed up our own arse n all. It's almost a racist idea as it assumes all white people grow up under the same conditions. Black people can't graduate for being poor ?, welcome to the club digger. It also assumes a white person can't be the victim of racism. There's fucking loads but the long to the short is we all grow up within the same society that has a mix of many different races that are all represented to different levels who are exposed to different life challenges, including whites.

You might aswell replace it with the phrase 'at the end of the day...'



I don't know shit about the UK, but if the population is 50/50 between sexes, isn't it about right to have a split? Isn't the labour cabinet supposed to be a representation of the people? Are there specific people who you don't think are qualified or some shit? Lets say it was 90% white guys, you'd be cool with that, assume everything is on the up and up, and barely any qualified women want to be on the labor cabinet? Lets say there are no qualified women, wouldn't you want to explore that and figure out why that is?

The reason for affirmative action is because a lot of people are racist and sexist and will often opt to go with the white guy. This is only one of the many reasons why it's harder to be black and poor. If you're black and not in jail, hey you won half the battle. While affirmative action is a shitty solution, it's the closest thing to fair because you can't really stop people from being racist assholes other than mandating that they bring in a few black people. I mean, you can still have a bunch of white people, but hey how about some black people too? Maybe a less qualified black person will take a more qualified white guys job. Maybe an unqualified white guy will take a more qualified black guys job because of racism. All we got are numbers. Only 3 percent of twitter employees are black or latino? That shit doesn't even make sense...

It is what it is really. You have a group of assholes that rule the world, and have ruled the world for a very long time. Somebody has to look out for the underrepresented or the majority will take and never give back.




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DooMer wrote:

I don't know shit about the UK, but if the population is 50/50 between sexes, isn't it about right to have a split? Isn't the labour cabinet supposed to be a representation of the people? Are there specific people who you don't think are qualified or some shit? Lets say it was 90% white guys, you'd be cool with that, assume everything is on the up and up, and barely any qualified women want to be on the labor cabinet? Lets say there are no qualified women, wouldn't you want to explore that and figure out why that is?



I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

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The reason for affirmative action is because a lot of people are racist and sexist and will often opt to go with the white guy. This is only one of the many reasons why it's harder to be black and poor. If you're black and not in jail, hey you won half the battle. While affirmative action is a shitty solution, it's the closest thing to fair because you can't really stop people from being racist assholes other than mandating that they bring in a few black people. I mean, you can still have a bunch of white people, but hey how about some black people too? Maybe a less qualified black person will take a more qualified white guys job. Maybe an unqualified white guy will take a more qualified black guys job because of racism. All we got are numbers. Only 3 percent of twitter employees are black or latino? That shit doesn't even make sense...

It is what it is really. You have a group of assholes that rule the world, and have ruled the world for a very long time. Somebody has to look out for the underrepresented or the majority will take and never give back.


But this often ends up with innocent people being labelled a racist, or sexist or feminist. You can't cure racism by banning words or encouraging the racial segregation by widening the divide. There'll always be groups left out.



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Memphis wrote:
big triggering graphic


1 thru 9 - no problemo

10 - every segregationist and racialist ever has accepted that they're "still racist". why doesn't #10 just express its obvious subtext directly: "feel bad for being white"?




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Context: GeenStijl is a popular right wing website / medium (they do TV too) aimed at people <40.

When GeenStijl first started they pioneered this weird Ali G style of interviewing (ask a politician absurd questions then surprise him with a serious one, get a bunch of absurd answers and a statement someone would have never made otherwise. Presto, news!). Back then i was of the opinion this actually added something to the national conversation in politics, they were the only ones who could cut through the bullshit banalities every politician likes to utter. But media training has since adapted and this trick no longer works very well.

Then there's the website, which is even more poisonous then their TV stuff, it's just... it's weird. Over the years they developed their own lingo, they intentionally misspell certain words (which is then enthusiastically copied by the folks on their forum, which is how you recognise a sympathiser) and it's all very very angry stuff. By people who have nothing to be angry about; mostly young white males with jobs and an education.


Fun fact: both Dominique and Rutger are in fact master trolls. They are nothing like that in real life and are very aware of the crowd they attract and cater to.
Source: myself as Dominique's exwife and daughter are my neighbours and he's around quite often.
According to her it was the founding of the tv network thst broke them up as she would get harassed by bitter trolled people everywhere she went.

So I guess in the end he done trolled himself :f




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The fact that you throw out "marxist" and "leftist" labels around as if they're an insult—no less about people who don't even have any idea who Carl Marx was—makes you just as ignorant as you purport everyone else to be.

Also it's obvious from the lack of any female presence in your life that you're about as beta as it gets.




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Pay attention to the article headlines in particular and just what kind of shit-storm they caused, shall be revealed. It actually was a mob of feminist harpy bloggers harassing gamers.

When a hot topic presents itself, everyone wants to write about it. This happens all the time, not just with the notion of the death of the gamer identity. And a lot of the examples in that video didn't even support Sargon's point; I recognize the article screencaps and I've read some of them, they actually say the opposite of what he thinks. Not to mention that for every screencap that was provided, there are 5 more articles with headlines and content that don't support Sargon's argument. The only shit storm it seems to have caused is in your pants.

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It actually turns out that some (can't say all in honesty, but some) threats were staged. Sarkeesian dug out supposed abuse and threats that had nothing to even do with GG. Quinn fake doxxed herself, whilst getting payments from other feminists that were brigading all over the place on her behalf. Shit, read the tweets in the vid. Some of them aren't even threats. 'I hope you die soon', whilst aye, quite nasty, is not a threat at all. Not least a fucking death threat. These people are carrot-crunching loony fucking tunes!

Yeah, she's getting death threats, but a few of them are fake, so the rest don't matter. :dork:
If your "I hope you die soon" example of a non-death threat is referring to the first 20 seconds of the video, then you chose to ignore the tweet directly underneath it in the video that says "I hope you enjoy your last moments on this earth". I can cherry-pick my examples to make a point, too.

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Now. How many lights are there?! :tomato:

Bonus points for TNG reference. :up:



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Some rare stupid college class would constitute that vocal minority I was talking about. Don't worry so much about them



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Memphis wrote:
Because the necessary narrative is, that all white people are racists. Duh.


way to miss my point completely. the quote was "recognise you're still racist" - that is to say it's being claimed (by whoever compiled that infographic) that 'being racist' is cashed out as an 'objective' property, i.e. something you don't choose, nor can you choose to renounce. if one accepts this, then certain strange beliefs logically follow on from it, such as:

1) there can never be an end to racism (a pretty pessimistic conclusion). racism is now raised to the level of a metaphysical truth, beyond political action or social change; and

2) that a certain class of people (white people in this instance, but it could be anyone) are to some extent defined by the colour of their skin - a disturbing conclusion to draw for someone claiming to be 'against racism' since it effectively re-creates the foundational logic of racism (but disguises this by switching the roles); and lastly

3) unless the speaker is merely advocating an entirely inner-directed (and hence invisible) "recognition", some kind of 'public performance' of this "recognition" is required, and this 'performance' must be ongoing and unending, given the metaphysical nature of racism. the 'original sin' can never be expunged, and redemption is impossible. this brings to my mind such things as Calvinism or der ewige Jude, not to mention cultural practices that involving 'marking' criminals in some way, like cutting off the hands of thieves, or branding in a publicly visible way - pretty disturbing associations




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PostPosted: 06-08-2016 12:17 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


TLDR: All white people are racists ? :p



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losCHUNK wrote:
TLDR: All people are racists ? :p


whitie! always thinking theyre ssooo exclusive! :olo:



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Memphis wrote:
Affirmative action can be problematic. I have difficulty in seeing it as a simple case of picking so many of each 'type' of people (retches a bit) and stacking boardrooms with bodies, marginalised by colour, like it's some quite dodgy game of Connect 4.
You need so many whites, blacks, asians. So many women. Some of them have to be of errr... less moderate build, shall we say. Shit, Muslims, we've need some Muslims. Now Jews. Few Othordox Christians, a Mormon etc...

It is understandable to want, nay need representation and opportunity, although it's where and who gets trimmed and if it can be done as fairly as possible, at the end of the day. I sure wouldn't want to be the CV juggler that has to toss away 2 good ones, for 2 less good ones, just to get a scorecard match.

On the one hand... If you've got 9 white guys and 2 black guys, with a spot open. You should probably be hiring a black guy, let's be honest. What if you have two spanking good white women CVs though and one black guy leaves? What if you have 4 black women, 1 black man and 4 white women. Do you have to hire a white guy?

Whichever way you spin it, someone's getting fucked over, in what should be something gained by merit and not by statistical gamble. One to be applied as is deemed necessary, I reckon. Just don't fucking go full Huffpost with it. Never fucking go full Huffpost, yo. Anyone who gets news soley from that so-far-left-it's-in-the-drink-and-gotten-all-wet rag, is probably already indoctrinated into feminist thinking. The Guardian's often just as bad.


implying the minority candidate is always worse than the white male candidate. jesus christ.




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Fine, fine, fine. I guess trained propogandists, that managed to pull the wool over the eyes of the mainstream media, gaming media and vast swathes of the culture itself, surely will never be a problem again. Oh, surely no sir.

*saves thread*

*starts stop-watch*


Ok, how is it affecting the quality of your life right now? I didn't even know what the whole SJW Gamergate nonsense was until I accidentally clicked on a Youtube video a year after it happened. I'm a gamer just as you are, yet it didn't change anything for me. Are feminists stopping you from playing and enjoying games? Did they force a patch on you that changes every protagonist in your Steam library to a fat, 35-yr old black woman with stretch marks?




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See, this PC shits so bad Shaft is digging a hole to hide in.



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If you want to convince us that you're not taking this 5-page thread as seriously as you seem to be, you're going to need more clownboats than that.



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That's not a clownboat. :offended:



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PostPosted: 06-08-2016 08:18 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Memphis wrote:
Do you really even give a stuff? I find it both interesting and entertaining :shrug: And it's some actual discussion for once. So, either catch-up yourself and join in, or fuck off.
And you ain't got no funny. Attempts at skirting the borders of taste, being quite often cringeworthy, in fact :p


You don't look interested or entertained, you look downright disturbed and angry. And no, there's not much of a discussion here, just you coming off as a bitter, misogynistic nerd with a chip on your shoulder while people with normal, healthy social lives look on in pity.

Keep it up :p




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I bet Memphis cried himself to sleep when Blizzard patched out Tracer's butt waving pose from Overwatch.




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Ya'll getting guilt tripped into being reverse racists / feminists and homos :olo:



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Honestly still have no clue what the fuck this entire thread is about - and i read the whole 5 goddamn pages, too. Still... what? How? But most of all why? Why let any of this get to you? Life's too short to get upset about folks on retard magnet, oh excuse me, youtube. Isn't it?

Because, jesus! 5 pages! What!



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Basically a bunch of people acting like that :p



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Ryoki wrote:
Honestly still have no clue what the fuck this entire thread is about - and i read the whole 5 goddamn pages, too. Still... what? How? But most of all why? Why let any of this get to you? Life's too short to get upset about folks on retard magnet, oh excuse me, youtube. Isn't it?

Because, jesus! 5 pages! What!


Hopefully he'll drop this nonsense and go back to playing his anime games featuring cartoon girls in short skirts.




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found a recent photo of memphis...

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Memph VS Puff



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Memphis wrote:
losCHUNK wrote:
Memph VS Puff


Careful now, that's whitey propoganda. Black on black crime doesn't exist remember :olo:


You mean he doesn't understand that people act like people ? :olo:



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Keep going guys you're making yourselves look great. Oh wait, plained agrees with you too. You must be right.




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Got any more rape stats ?

Knows you love that shit.



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Memphis wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
found a recent photo of memphis..


I guess it's too hard to actually refute anything I've posted.
Intellectually dishonest trolling it is then. Carry on, if you so must. :)

If your arguments rose to a level beyond retardation I'm sure I'd feel more compelled to refute you. Ask yourself why everyone in this thread other than red font guy and plained think you're off-base maybe?




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Memphis wrote:
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Oh wait, plained agrees with you too. You must be right.


No.

You stay on me, you brittle little brigader. Plained has done nothing.

Fuck your cliquing sensibilities. You got a problem, you take it on without desperately grouping people into teams of -isms, for ideological warfare.

You're just showing how averse you are to discussion, without a big bucket of nasty label paint as your entire argument.

I discuss things all the time with reasonable people. :)




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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
I discuss things all the time with reasonable people. :)


so does everyone, in their own mind

discussing things with unreasonable people is too challenging




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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:

I discuss things all the time with reasonable people. :)


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Dude, 85000 women a year are raped in England and Wales. 20% of all women on that island report being sexually assaulted in their adult lifetime.


You fucking plum. in 10 years that almost 1 million people, 1/6th of our population wouldve been raped.

Seriously I wasn't going to mention this in the other post but since you're going on about reasonable arguements with 'reasonable people I thought I'd bring it up. Just how fucked up do you need to think shit is to believe in stuff like that ?



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losCHUNK wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:

I discuss things all the time with reasonable people. :)


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Dude, 85000 women a year are raped in England and Wales. 20% of all women on that island report being sexually assaulted in their adult lifetime.


You fucking plum. in 10 years that almost 1 million people, 1/6th of our population wouldve been raped.

Seriously I wasn't going to mention this in the other post but since you're going on about reasonable arguements with 'reasonable people I thought I'd bring it up. Just how fucked up do you need to think shit is to believe in stuff like that ?

Oh so there's only 6 million people in England and Wales? Reading comprehension, get some...




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The point stands numbnuts, just cos I worked it off Welsh pop by mistake.

Another way of looking at it is that the whole of Northern Ireland gets raped once every 20 years.



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