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PostPosted: 10-18-2016 08:19 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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You were the one missing the point shithead.

So much so that you had it explained twice, once with crayon.


Even Geoff says red font guy is incoherent and drones on...
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What kind of emotional connection did you have with the characters in GoT after the 1st 3 eps ?, cos I couldn't give a shit if Red Wedding happened in episode 3.



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losCHUNK wrote:
You were the one missing the point shithead.

So much so that you had it explained twice, once with crayon.


Even Geoff says red font guy is incoherent and drones on...


Geoff also has red seats in his car, coincidence ?



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I thought this was the point. It's showing us the complexities of what is considered 'intelligence' or consciousness and what we perceive it as, just because something can't die or isn't self aware doesn't mean it can't feel pain, because it's man made doesn't necessarily mean they ain't conscious. I am expecting more and more character / plot development as the confines of the creators start falling. The more the show dwells on these aspects the more it unravels


Sure, i get that's an interesting philosophical question (although a well known one, done before many times in film, books and series), but it's not quite what i meant by complaining about the lack of emotional connection the viewer has because of it. Look, so far this story takes place in a world where there's apparently a total absence of consequences to dramatic actions. And that's a big problem - i the viewer am consequently not emotionally invested as a result. Because nothing matters at the end of the day, right? Players can't get hurt by NPC's or other players, robots reset, and we haven't yet seen any real evidence that they're concious life forms or whatever, just suggestions. I also expect this to change as we learn more, but it's a valid criticism for the first few eps i feel - and one that's going to be quite hard to get out of for the writers. Cuz it's just damn hard developing feelings for robots - and at this point basically every character we've seen can very possibly turn out to secretly be a robot.

Also, yeah, i was totally emotionally invested in at least a few characters after the first episode of GoT. By the end of ep 3 season 1 they had me hooked. Bad show to take as an example to compare Westworld to... GoT actually excelled at this.

Anyway, it's just something i notice that's troubling me when i watch, and i've only seen two eps so far. It's a pretty great show otherwise i feel :up:



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losCHUNK wrote:
What kind of emotional connection did you have with the characters in GoT after the 1st 3 eps ?, cos I couldn't give a shit if Red Wedding happened in episode 3.


Actually, I do know when Bran was pushed out the window in episode 1, I said "Holy shit!" Bran is an actual human character, and when you see him potentially fall to his dead, it makes an impression. I can't say the same for the hosts of Westworld...
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losCHUNK wrote:
xer0s wrote:

Even Geoff says red font guy is incoherent and drones on...


Geoff also has red seats in his car, coincidence ?


Hmm, good point...
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PostPosted: 10-19-2016 07:53 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


come on youre just pretending to get it righT?



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PostPosted: 10-20-2016 04:14 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


So, where is your line between a sentient artificial being and a biological creature? Imo, this is what this show boils down to.
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PostPosted: 10-27-2016 02:35 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I hope this doesn't go the same way as Lost.



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PostPosted: 10-27-2016 06:08 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


it's kind of boring
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Yes. Was hoping it would pick up, but it doesn't seem to.



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PostPosted: 11-01-2016 05:50 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The music (not the opening theme) is one of my favorite parts of the show. It's very Mass Effectish...
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PostPosted: 11-01-2016 06:17 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


i previewed a bit of the first epi

seems pretty good

i love western type stuff so i am biased



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PostPosted: 11-01-2016 06:20 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
it's kind of boring


Jews don't understand westerns... :olo: ...
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xer0s wrote:
The music (not the opening theme) is one of my favorite parts of the show. It's very Mass Effectish...


The songs redone on the old timey piano are awesome..iirc it was black hole sun in the first ep.
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Yeah, I think they've released a few of the piano songs on iTunes, but I couldn't find the futuristic music that reminded me of Mass Effect...
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
it's kind of boring

the two episodes since i posted that have been really good.
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Moron^^^...
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Nice Yul Brynner Easter egg in that last episode...
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I'm liking it...
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
the two episodes since i posted that have been really good.


:up: Nice to hear as I have yet to see any.



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PostPosted: 11-12-2016 09:21 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Still think it's terrific.
Maybe
giving her all she deemed
was a bit much.
All in all I think we have 3.5 interesting story arcs.
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I love u Bernard...
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This show seemed all over the place for the first 3-4 episodes but it's really coming together now. A++
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I'm rooting for the bad guy, I love it when they make a good bad guy :D

Not a big fan of the Maeve story arc, but I guess that's just plot filler.



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Lol Bernard got owned...
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Bernard :(
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He'll be back. Ford just wants to make a newer model...
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shaft wrote:
xer0s wrote:
The music (not the opening theme) is one of my favorite parts of the show. It's very Mass Effectish...


The songs redone on the old timey piano are awesome..iirc it was black hole sun in the first ep.


Funny thing, I was watching this when they introduced those two characters, one of which really looks like the singer from Radiohead. So I got to wondering if he was in fact, the singer from Radiohead and just as I'm pondering this, bam, radiohead on the piano. Turns out I was wrong though.
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Read a theory last night that there are multiple timelines going on with Deloris and that William is actually the Man in Black when he was young.
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Not a bad theory.

Makes sense too. Cause I was wondering how Logan had that picture of Williams wife (the same picture Dolores's dad saw)...
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found it. was on vox.com

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In this theory, there are four timelines: Dolores’s life before the massacre (which we see mostly in flashbacks to her conversations with Arnold); her time with William (who is almost certainly the young Man in Black); the long torpor of her existence post-William (which seems a kind of punishment visited upon her by Ford); and the Man in Black and Teddy’s journey to find Wyatt, whom I believe to also be Dolores.
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There was also that woman who knifed teddy in ep9 who was there when william arrived at the park in his room. I remember a few episodes back when she showed up and the man in black made a comment about it which stood out at the time.

it's a pretty solid theory imo.
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Lol of course Billy is the man in black...I thought this was obvious.... MORON ALERT!!!...
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