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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 11-13-2016 06:52 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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The 1961 Goldsboro B-52 crash was an accident that occurred in Goldsboro, North Carolina, on January 24, 1961. A B-52 Stratofortress carrying two 3-4 megaton Mark 39 nuclear bombs broke up in mid-air, dropping its nuclear payload in the process.


Pretty scary stuff. Read it and weep
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Go ... B-52_crash




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PostPosted: 11-13-2016 07:56 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


They would've blamed the Soviet Union for it.




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PostPosted: 11-13-2016 08:26 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Makes you wonder how many more accidents like this have nearly triggered WW3.



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PostPosted: 11-13-2016 08:40 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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In 2011, Lt. Jack Revelle, the bomb disposal expert responsible for disarming the device, said “As far as I’m concerned we came damn close to having a Bay of North Carolina. The nuclear explosion would have completely changed the Eastern seaboard if it had gone off.” He also said the size of each bomb was more than 250 times the destructive power of the Hiroshima bomb, large enough to have a 100% kill zone of 23 km. Each bomb would exceed the yield of all munitions (outside of testing) ever detonated in the history of the world by TNT, gunpowder, conventional bombs, and the Hiroshima and Nagasaki blasts combined.


That's terrifying. I remember reading about this when the FOIA request came through, but didn't realize the bomb was that powerful. Who knows how the government would have spun it... considering how paranoid and deflective the powers-that-be were at the time.

Got to put this up there with the 1983 false alarm as a seriously lucky break.




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PostPosted: 11-13-2016 10:47 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Makes me wonder, why on earth would they fly these things around other than actually using them? And it's not just one, but two of em on the same plane.




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PostPosted: 11-13-2016 10:49 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Oh, for comparison, the bombs dropped in Japan were 15 and 21 kiloton. These things were 3-4 megaton




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PostPosted: 11-13-2016 11:13 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Makes me wonder, why on earth would they fly these things around other than actually using them? And it's not just one, but two of em on the same plane.


It was my understanding that as part of the nuclear triad, the united states strategic air command always had a bomber up or ready to retaliate within 15 minutes of a nuclear attack. Not sure if that is still a thing or if it was stopped after the cold war.




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PostPosted: 11-13-2016 11:49 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


More bright ideas:
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Starfish Prime was a high-altitude nuclear test conducted by the United States on July 9, 1962, a joint effort of the Atomic Energy Commission (AEC) and the Defense Atomic Support Agency. The Defense Atomic Support Agency apparently became the Defense Nuclear Agency in 1971.

A Thor rocket carrying a W49 thermonuclear warhead (manufactured by Los Alamos Scientific Laboratory) and a Mk. 2 reentry vehicle was launched from Johnston Island in the Pacific Ocean. The explosion took place 250 miles (400 km) above a point 19 miles (31 km) southwest of Johnston Island.

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Starfish Prime caused an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), which was far larger than expected, so much larger that it drove much of the instrumentation off scale, causing great difficulty in getting accurate measurements. The Starfish Prime electromagnetic pulse also made those effects known to the public by causing electrical damage in Hawaii, about 1,445 kilometres (898 mi) away from the detonation point, knocking out about 300 streetlights, setting off numerous burglar alarms and damaging a telephone company microwave link. The EMP damage to the microwave link shut down telephone calls from Kauai to the other Hawaiian islands.


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While some of the energetic beta particles followed the Earth's magnetic field and illuminated the sky, other high-energy electrons became trapped and formed radiation belts around the earth. These man-made radiation belts eventually crippled one-third of all satellites in low Earth orbit. Seven satellites failed over the months following the test, as radiation damaged their solar arrays or electronics, including the first commercial relay communication satellite, Telstar, as well as the United Kingdom's first satellite, Ariel 1.




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PostPosted: 11-14-2016 12:59 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Scary stuff Indeed...




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PostPosted: 11-14-2016 01:34 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


dang




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PostPosted: 11-14-2016 02:32 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Captain Mazda wrote:
They would've blamed the Soviet Union for it.


Very good chance of that.

I wonder if the US would have retaliated and bombed Russia? Pretty much would have guaranteed the end of the world as we know it.




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Dozens of Atomic Warheads Lost In Sea by Superpowers, Study Says
By ANDREW ROSENTHAL, Special to The New York Times
Published: June 7, 1989

WASHINGTON, June 6— Accidents involving American and Soviet ships, bombers and rockets have left at least 50 warheads and nine nuclear reactors scattered on the ocean floors since 1956, according to a comprehensive study of naval accidents that was released today.

So far, the United States has acknowledged that radioactive material leaked into the ocean from only a hydrogen bomb dropped accidentally into the ocean south of Japan in 1965 by an aircraft carrier.

...


http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/07/us/do ... -says.html




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PostPosted: 11-14-2016 06:40 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Read a book about this, listing all the incidents that are public knowledge in terrifying detail. It's a miracle none of the incidents lead to detonation or even full on thermonuclear war really (the author includes a story about a serious early warning system malfunction that almost lead to the US retaliating to a perceived Soviet attack that wasn't really happening), absolutely crazy stuff.

It ends with the ominous note that quite possibly lots more went wrong in Russia, but there's a lot less known details.



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PostPosted: 11-14-2016 07:32 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


A bomb that went "broken-arrow" wont explode -cannot explode. Not due a crash...
At least they say so.



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PostPosted: 11-14-2016 09:33 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


AndyW wrote:
A bomb that went "broken-arrow" wont explode -cannot explode. Not due a crash...
At least they say so.


I doubt that. From the B52 crash wikipedia article:
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In 2013, ReVelle recalled the moment the second bomb's switch was found. “Until my death I will never forget hearing my sergeant say, 'Lieutenant, we found the arm/safe switch.' And I said, 'Great.' He said, 'Not great. It’s on arm.'”




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PostPosted: 11-14-2016 10:04 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
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Dozens of Atomic Warheads Lost In Sea by Superpowers, Study Says
By ANDREW ROSENTHAL, Special to The New York Times
Published: June 7, 1989

WASHINGTON, June 6— Accidents involving American and Soviet ships, bombers and rockets have left at least 50 warheads and nine nuclear reactors scattered on the ocean floors since 1956, according to a comprehensive study of naval accidents that was released today.

So far, the United States has acknowledged that radioactive material leaked into the ocean from only a hydrogen bomb dropped accidentally into the ocean south of Japan in 1965 by an aircraft carrier.

...


great :|




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