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Grunt
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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 02:55 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


"ZeniMax alleged that Oculus improperly used the company’s code to build the Rift VR headset"

"The Facebook-owned company Oculus has been ordered to pay half a billion dollars to the games company ZeniMax after a jury determined that the Oculus CEO, Palmer Luckey, failed to comply with a non-disclosure agreement."

"ZeniMax is the parent company of ID Software, maker of the Doom and Quake games, whose co-founder John Carmack is now the chief technology officer of Oculus. Luckey exchanged emails with Carmack, who was still at ID Software, when he was developing a prototype of the company’s flagship headset."

source article :
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/01/facebook-oculus-vr-lawsuit-zenimax




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 04:20 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I believe from the trial that they determined they hadn't stole any code or R&D but got them instead for breaking the NDA and a few other things which is good news. They'll probably appeal this judgement too.




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Messatsu Ko Jy-ouu
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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 04:20 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


yea read that eariler.
Last thing I read was that Carmack himself is fined for about 150 mil




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 04:20 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah seems excessive for an NDA fine.




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 04:45 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That would make him homeless and poorer than puff...




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 05:40 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


MKJ wrote:
yea read that eariler.
Last thing I read was that Carmack himself is fined for about 150 mil

The article says it was Brendan Iribe (former Oculus CEO) that was fined for $150m
You sure you aren't mistaking him for John Carmack?




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Messatsu Ko Jy-ouu
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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 06:48 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


No it was before the judge actually ruled. I think it was in the original complaint, so maybe the jury or judge ruled that it should be Iribe rather than Carmack.




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 07:08 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Carmack...Genius coder/Facebook...pffff!
Sorry sir, you should focus on rockets now imho!
I stopped supporting/thinking about Oculus when it was buyed off!
It will just fail, it have to fail! So many problems with motion-sickness and stuff... Its maybe good for a presentation...
but thats it.
Sorry to crash your VR-Dreamworld...Better get some LSD fo´that!
:olo: :up:



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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 07:23 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Why does AndyW always come across as some dumb oaf who has more opinions than sense?




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 07:25 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm beginning to notice that also.




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Messatsu Ko Jy-ouu
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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 07:29 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


his shortsightedness is actually a great feat when it comes to VR.




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 07:54 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


AndyW wrote:
Carmack...Genius coder/Facebook...pffff!
Sorry sir, you should focus on rockets now imho!
I stopped supporting/thinking about Oculus when it was buyed off!
It will just fail, it have to fail! So many problems with motion-sickness and stuff... Its maybe good for a presentation...
but thats it.
Sorry to crash your VR-Dreamworld...Better get some LSD fo´that!
:olo: :up:


why LSD's ? just get every PC component in RGB :dts:



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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 11:30 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Carmack's view on the expert analysis of the so called stolen code:
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php? ... 6735798590




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 11:33 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Incidentally, I had my very first experience with high quality VR today through Samsung Gear VR.

Visually I found it to be more blurry than expected, but this masked the pixally look of everything. I 'played' the "Face Your Fears" demo of a robot attacking the giant skyscraper you are in. Surprisingly, a real sense of vertigo was presenting itself through a floaty feeling in my stomach. Pretty impressive.




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 11:55 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The most important part of that FB post is that Carmack himself writes "Id Software" with a capitalized 'i'.




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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 12:25 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Incidentally, I had my very first experience with high quality VR today through Samsung Gear VR.

Visually I found it to be more blurry than expected, but this masked the pixally look of everything. I 'played' the "Face Your Fears" demo of a robot attacking the giant skyscraper you are in. Surprisingly, a real sense of vertigo was presenting itself through a floaty feeling in my stomach. Pretty impressive.


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PostPosted: 02-02-2017 12:42 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Why does AndyW always come across as some dumb oaf who has more opinions than sense?


I think he's autistic, like a German Dulltron.




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PostPosted: 03-10-2017 01:08 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote





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PostPosted: 03-10-2017 10:21 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That's not really a countersuite. He's suing for money that was owed to him by Zenimax for the sale of id software. Zenimax are being douchebags about it and basically just don't want to pay which is absolutely ridiculous.

Zenimax seem to be absolute assholes.




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PostPosted: 03-10-2017 03:08 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Corporate twats.



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PostPosted: 03-10-2017 03:58 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Incidentally, I had my very first experience with high quality VR today through Samsung Gear VR.

Visually I found it to be more blurry than expected, but this masked the pixally look of everything. I 'played' the "Face Your Fears" demo of a robot attacking the giant skyscraper you are in. Surprisingly, a real sense of vertigo was presenting itself through a floaty feeling in my stomach. Pretty impressive.


lol Samsung. I've got a zotac vr go and vibe under my desk. They are galaxies apart. If you get the chance to use a real set do it.




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