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Etile
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PostPosted: 10-28-2017 02:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41785292

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The Spanish government has stripped Catalonia of its autonomy and taken charge of its government.


is it game over for Catalonia or is shit about to get real?




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PostPosted: 10-28-2017 02:15 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's going to be a nightmare; full on civil war I think




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PostPosted: 10-28-2017 02:17 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


yea this wont end peacefully.




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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 10-28-2017 04:32 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


WAR




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PostPosted: 10-28-2017 06:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Lol Spain...




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Etile
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PostPosted: 10-28-2017 09:31 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Don Carlos wrote:
It's going to be a nightmare; full on civil war I think


really?

i'll be honest, i haven't paid 100% attention to this story, but i haven't gotten the impression so far that the Catalan govt has the stones to turn this into a civil war :paranoid:




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PostPosted: 10-28-2017 09:32 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Catalans are all loopy, like the french.




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Etile
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PostPosted: 10-28-2017 09:39 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... iano-rajoy

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The Catalan leader has issued a defiant response to Madrid’s decision to take direct control of Catalonia, calling for “democratic opposition” to the takeover... “We must do so resisting repression and threats, without ever abandoning, at any time, civic and peaceful conduct,” he said, adding that his government did not have or want “the argument of force”.


doesn't sound like war's a-brewin or the mountains are fair teeming with goblins, gandalf :|




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PostPosted: 10-29-2017 04:35 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I've kept an eye on this since the announcement of a vote and well, all I can say is Spain and the Catalan government has completely fucked up.

Catalunya needed to prove a point and they did exactly that during the time of the ref, after that they gave Spain a massive bloody nose because of the backlash that went against the Catalans, Spanish government acted cuntish by sending in what was essentially 1000s of police shipped in from Madrid to maintain 'order', who went on to attack Catalan civil servants (police / firemen) that were trying to protect the demonstrators / voters who seemed to be largely peaceful.

That created a surge in support but then they made the dipshit move of declaring independence which forced the Spanish hand in dissolving their parliament. Such a move makes it obvious that they (Catalunya government) wanted to create a shitstorm through discontent and also forced other countries (and the EU) into saying that the now independent government will not be recoignised.

In short - the vote was illegal, declaring independence was illegal, only 40% of Catalans voted (90% voted leave), 2/3rds of MPs voted for independence. What they could have used to force Spain for a legitimate vote has now turned them into a puppet state.

Also the EUs silence after the ref but before the declaration was also cuntish.

It won't dissolve into civil war imo, there maybe a sizeable portion keen to leave but there's also a sizeable portion keen to stay, the shitstorm created is by the top brass twats.



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PostPosted: 10-29-2017 10:23 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


losCHUNK has been "keeping an eye on this" then proceeds to post stuff that could be gathered from simply reading headlines the past few weeks.

Thanks for keeping us in the loop losCHUNK :up:




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Truffle Shuffle
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PostPosted: 10-30-2017 02:04 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


No probs, I thought this thread could do with a summary as its a bit light on info and a lot of the media seems to lean on the side of oppression, laying the blame on Spains doorstep with some on here thinking about civil war :up:



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PostPosted: 10-30-2017 04:58 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


losCHUNK wrote:
with some on here thinking about civil war :up:

Yeah that's what you get with the level of investigative ability the average Q3W poster has




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Truffle Shuffle
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PostPosted: 10-30-2017 05:54 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


And now -

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Spain's chief prosecutor has called for charges including rebellion to be laid against Catalan leaders following the region's declaration of independence.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-41802900

So...

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Ousted Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont has left Spain and travelled to Brussels, Spanish government officials have said.


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 27366.html



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PostPosted: 10-31-2017 10:37 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Beats getting arrested...




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Eraser wrote:
losCHUNK wrote:
with some on here thinking about civil war :up:

Yeah that's what you get with the level of investigative ability the average Q3W poster has


WAR




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Etile
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PostPosted: 11-01-2017 09:47 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


EL CLASICO




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Truffle Shuffle
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PostPosted: 11-01-2017 05:45 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


ahah tbh my 1st reaction was to see how this impacts on la liga



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PostPosted: 11-01-2017 10:38 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


MotoGP finale in Valencia next week. I guess that's far away enough from Catalunya but on a Spanish scale it's relatively close.




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PostPosted: 11-02-2017 11:57 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Catalonia: Arrest warrant requested for ousted leader Carles Puigdemont, ex-ministers in custody...

A prosecutor asks a judge to issue an arrest warrant for sacked Catalan leader Carles Puigdemont, while eight former Catalan ministers are remanded in custody pending an investigation into Catalonia's independence push.


Stirring up a hornets nest :!:

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