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Don Carlos
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 01:39 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Death in

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41466116

At least 20 dead so far and 100 injured
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 03:17 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Lol country music fans...
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 03:27 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


50 dead.

That makes it a new record. Terrible...
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 05:08 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Fucking hell :(
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 05:12 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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He was described as a “lone wolf” with no known links to terrorist organizations.


White, therefore not a terrorist attack.
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 05:26 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The sound clips I heard from it, sounded like automatic gunfire. Like shooting fish in a barrel :(
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 06:30 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Seems like things like this are becoming the norm and not the exception



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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 06:35 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Apparently, gunman was on the 30th floor, broke the window and started shooting down on people. :(



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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 07:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That's so fucked up...

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Nevada has some of the least stringent gun laws in the United States.
People are allowed to carry weapons and do not have to register themselves as a gun-owner.
Background checks are done when people buy guns, but they are also allowed to sell them privately.



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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 07:56 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


58 people dead
515 injured
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 08:10 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 08:32 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Fuck me, i've been following this all day and it keeps getting worse. How was he allowed to sustain an attack like this? He had 6-7 long range weapons? The only other places on earth this happens are places like the Congo...
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 08:49 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


concert
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 08:51 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


MKJ wrote:
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He was described as a “lone wolf” with no known links to terrorist organizations.


White, therefore not a terrorist attack.


not an attack on civilians for the purpose of changing government policy, therefore not a terrorist attack

race or links to organisations have nothing to do with it
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Yeah, I have to agree. Whether or not the attack is labeled a terrorist act or not all depends on the motive...
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 09:06 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Phew, ok that's a relief.
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 10:15 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm glad we cleared that up.
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I'm the leader of this clan.
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xer0s wrote:
Whether or not the attack is labeled a terrorist act or not all depends on the motive...


uh, what?

whether or not it's labelled a terrorist act depends on whether or not the person doing the labelling knows the meaning of the word terrorism

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The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.


if this Oswald wannabee had political aims, we've yet to hear about them
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 12:02 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


So it depends on his motive and if it had political aims ? :)



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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 01:05 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Political aims aren't a motive?
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Well, that one guy shooting up a BLM protest and injuring 5 people (who were later treated as perps, and the shooter like a victim until it was later proven he was there explicitly to shoot 'black guys'), that's terrorism. Running over protesters is terrorism. The Drug War, considering it's origin, how it was constructed, and the motives that most people aren't aware of, can be argued as terrorism.

A mass shooting isn't really terrorism, because that would change the way that it should be dealt with, most likely meaning a global restriction on a wide array of freedoms.

We really need to be careful what we call terrorism.
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 03:18 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, God forbid Americans had less access to firearms...



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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 04:12 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas



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Yeah, God forbid Americans had less access to firearms...


What I'm saying is that wouldn't even happen. You'd probably get stupid rule changes that mostly apply to areas where individual, personal mass shootings take place because of heavy prohibition enforcement, and not to areas where the people who lobby the government actually have massive stockpiles of guns that can kill hundreds of people.

If you start calling this terrorism, it will A: Exacerbate instances where this happens, and B: Drive shootings in places like Chicago to be classified as "terrorism" when they have absolutely nothing to do with politics, and are mostly driven by a complete lack of jobs thanks to automation and out sourcing, and the Drug War, which allows mediocre government officials to manufacture crime out of poverty.

The only way they could be terrorism is if, say, a bunch of people from one group went somewhere a bunch of people from another group were just to shoot them so that they would no longer show up in public or do things as a community, which is why I mentioned the Drug War as terrorism, and not, say, Columbine.
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 05:51 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Not until next month.



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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 11:06 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


23 fucking guns in the hotel room
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 11:18 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What gun problem?
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PostPosted: 10-02-2017 11:37 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Remember Paris?

Trump wrote:
"You can say what you want, but if they had guns, if our people had guns, if they were allowed to carry -- it would've been a much, much different situation."
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PostPosted: 10-03-2017 02:52 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Another mass shooting, and another round of "gunsplaining", conspiracy theories and other shit.

The USA is broken.
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Ganemi wrote:
We really need to be careful what we call terrorism.


yes we do, which is why i provided the standard definition of terrorism so as to avoid the predictable "it's only terrorism when brown people do it" or "it's terrorism if lots of people die" or "it's terrorism because i say so and fuck you" type response

we can call it the 'bullet drizzle sad time' if you prefer
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I really hate to say it but I'd love to hear Jesselnik's thoughts on this one...
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Pure madness. A local guy here was caught in this insanity and died... 23 years old. Parents' only son. I am sure they are thrilled. My co-worker was down on the strip with his wife and he said the entire strip was pure fucking chaos until close to 5 in the AM. Everything was locked down and a ton of people got fuckin' trampled from panicky people stampeding.

I always knew Las Vegas was the asshole of America but holy fuck... :dts:
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PostPosted: 10-03-2017 07:07 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Only ppl who hate Vegas are religious fundies and pathetic borons...
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