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Legend
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PostPosted: 12-30-2020 03:51 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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PostPosted: 12-30-2020 04:04 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Corridor Digital has put out a few funny Boston Dynamics spoofs. :up:




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PostPosted: 12-30-2020 05:26 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
That video is a fake, Whiskey

Of course it's fake :smirk:
I did read the Public Comments on YT before posting. Q3W taught me that sometime ago.



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PostPosted: 12-31-2020 01:08 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Transient wrote:
kill it with fire


:up:




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PostPosted: 08-17-2021 07:37 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote




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PostPosted: 08-19-2021 06:54 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
Transient wrote:
kill it with fire


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PostPosted: 08-19-2021 08:04 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Apparently it can only pull off that vault 50% of the time without falling on its face. But it's getting better and better with every iteration.




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PostPosted: 08-19-2021 08:10 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Now Tesla's getting in on the game....




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PostPosted: 08-25-2021 05:41 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote




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PostPosted: 08-26-2021 12:20 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


the comedy movie soundtrack just makes it more sinister

i imagine them playing that when they round us up and march us into reeducation camps




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PostPosted: 08-26-2021 12:41 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, Yakkity Sax will play over the loudspeakers as we are ushered into the reeducation camps labeled "Meat Grinder 001" etc.




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PostPosted: 10-11-2021 04:16 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Former Senior Pentagon Official Says China is Kicking Our Ass in Artificial Intelligence
https://gizmodo.com/former-senior-penta ... 1847838903
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As to the whole artificial intelligence thing, the competition between the U.S. and China points to a grim arms race for who can make the best killer robot first—the likes of which seem to make a Skynet-like future all but inevitable. It’s also worth noting that the biggest cheerleaders for this arms race are currently Google, Amazon, and other tech giants, which stand to make truckloads of cash if the government decides to splurge on new AI investments.

We are hurtling toward a Great Filter moment....




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PostPosted: 10-14-2021 07:54 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


https://www.engadget.com/robot-dog-gun- ... 29912.html




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PostPosted: 10-14-2021 11:07 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Jesus, it's like a joke came walking straight out of a Paul Verhoeven film




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PostPosted: 10-15-2021 06:10 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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PostPosted: 10-15-2021 10:52 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Read about that one today. Was immediately reminded of "Metalhead" from Black Mirror




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PostPosted: 10-15-2021 12:36 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Jesus, it's like a joke came walking straight out of a Paul Verhoeven film

Would you like to know more?




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PostPosted: 10-15-2021 03:02 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Captain Mazda wrote:
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PostPosted: 03-17-2022 09:12 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote




This little spaz is fucking creepy! :eek:




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PostPosted: 03-18-2022 06:35 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I mean, I’m sure this a huge advancement, but it still looks clunky as hell…




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PostPosted: 07-20-2022 05:06 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote




Now picture a few dozen of them, all remotely operated, storming a small town. :|




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Transient wrote:
Now picture a few dozen of them, all remotely operated, storming a small town. :|

That doesn't particularly worry me. Dudes holding guns are just as lethal as robots with guns. I worry about robots like these working autonomously.




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PostPosted: 07-20-2022 11:09 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I feel like people with guns, especially separated by the distance of a monitor, are more likely to shoot before identifying a target as hostile. I wouldn't be surprised if autonomous systems were better, though I hope we never get to that point.




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PostPosted: 07-20-2022 11:58 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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I feel like people with guns, especially separated by the distance of a monitor, are more likely to shoot before identifying a target as hostile.

Perhaps. On the other hand, if a misidentified hostile shoots you, all that's lost is a replaceable robot. If you're out there in the field it's your own life that's on the line.




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PostPosted: 07-21-2022 12:17 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Robots make wars too easy, too likely to happen. Every other dystopian future seems to be coming true at lightning speed, I figure the same is true for this one. :shrug:




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PostPosted: 08-15-2022 05:59 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote




Now just picture a bunch of these being escorted by more dogs with guns like from my previous post. :dts:




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PostPosted: 08-15-2022 09:19 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Black Mirror type shit




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PostPosted: 08-16-2022 06:48 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


They'll send in the dogs when your Bank of America credit rating drops below 600




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Transient wrote:


Now just picture a bunch of these being escorted by more dogs with guns like from my previous post. :dts:


Can someone send this to Putin's gaff?




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PostPosted: 01-18-2023 04:36 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote




They did a good job making it look like that wasn't all scripted. I especially liked the Success Kid victory pose at the end.

All hail the robot overlords! As your supplicant, I eagerly await your orders! :ninja:




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PostPosted: 01-19-2023 06:50 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


These robotics combined with ChatGPT are going to absolutely decimate the current workforce. I'm using chatGPT to write out powershell scripts I can't wrap my head around and to code in C#, Python and a few other scripting languages. I'm terrible at writing code from scratch but I can read code and I can patch code together but that involves a lot of research online, with chatGPT I just ask and it spits it out.

Once that gets combined with the same kind of software being used in Tesla's self driving 3D mapping software it's all over.

They aren't conscious mind you, but the idea of a robot doing ANY manual labor job is definitely on the table at this point.

Next 10 years are going to be wild.




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PostPosted: 01-19-2023 02:26 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I'm still not sold on visual recognition stuff yet.

https://kotaku.com/real-soldiers-cardbo ... 1850003072




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lol that's pretty funny but all they're doing is teaching AI how to spot humans who are actively trying to disguise themselves. Machine learning is exploding in terms of functionality at the moment and we're just at the start. I imagine I'll be seeing some impressive stuff by the end of this year, let alone 10 years from now. I mean, even in that article you posted I could not have imagined tech being able to spot humans 10 years ago. The concept of teaching an AI how to see the world seemed like a near impossible task when you were watching the DARPA races and competitions but along came machine learning and well... We're watching robots do fucking backflips and shit. Meanwhile I'm using AI to help me with my job on difficult tasks and cars are driving themselves... At this point it seems almost realistic to assume a mass produced robot can and will take over menial jobs in the very near future, along with not so menial jobs even including artistic ones.




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Κracus wrote:
lol that's pretty funny but all they're doing is teaching AI how to spot humans who are actively trying to disguise themselves. Machine learning is exploding in terms of functionality at the moment and we're just at the start. I imagine I'll be seeing some impressive stuff by the end of this year, let alone 10 years from now. I mean, even in that article you posted I could not have imagined tech being able to spot humans 10 years ago. The concept of teaching an AI how to see the world seemed like a near impossible task when you were watching the DARPA races and competitions but along came machine learning and well... We're watching robots do fucking backflips and shit. Meanwhile I'm using AI to help me with my job on difficult tasks and cars are driving themselves... At this point it seems almost realistic to assume a mass produced robot can and will take over menial jobs in the very near future, along with not so menial jobs even including artistic ones.


I think it's still some ways away. Technologically a lot can be done, but don't forget that it's still cheaper to have a factory full of low wages workers make clothing in Bangladesh than have some hyper advanced sewing robot do it. Even in the western world it's probably still cheaper to have someone pick up a toiletbrush and clean the toilets than to have some kind of autonomous robot do it.

As for your coding problems, don't forget that you have ChatGPT generate relatively simple bits of code for an isolated, context free environment. You can ask it to implement a sorting routine or write code that implements some sort of widely used interface or API (will probably be increasingly hard as the API becomes more obscure), but it cannot build an entire software suite that implements features and functionality that matches exactly what your customers are looking for. I also highly doubt that (at this point) it can write entire full stack application that's easy to expand and maintain and sticks to the (often complex) requirements a full team of developers has for the way the software is set up and written. I don't see ChatGPT take over my job as software engineer any time soon, certainly not the part that requires me to take a customer's requests and translate them to a functionally and technically appropriate implementation.

Lastly, for anything that requires creativity (and one can argue that software development does require a bit of creativity as well), ChatGPT can only create things based on content it's been fed before. ChatGPT won't, in its current form, come to some sort of extremely insightful conclusion or creative expression that's unique, let alone revolutionary. If you've kept an eye on all the AI generated art posted in the Q3W Discord, then one thing that's very noticable is that while it all looks cool and, from a technological perspective, is impressive, it's never something that makes you go "whoa, that's so fresh and unique and original". It always harkens back to some style or idea you've seen before (and probably quite a bit more than once).




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PostPosted: 01-23-2023 05:57 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I hope you're correct but I don't think you are.

Menial jobs cost money, a robot that runs for 5 years will pay for itself over paying someone to do it for cheap. If Tesla makes those bots and sells them for 40k a pop that's barely more than the annual wages for a janitor and you get a worker who never tires, never complains, will never unionize and just does what you tell it to.

The crazy part about its programming skills is that you have to stop thinking programming is difficult for it. It's a linguistic tool, it's probably harder for chatGPT to properly speak english than it is to code complex code in various programming languages.




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