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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 12:59 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Goodbye America. Your presence on the internet will be greatly missed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/21/tech ... ality.html




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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 01:10 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Interesting read, and I do mean the comments off the net. (icon/link near the end of the article RHS in my page view)



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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 01:41 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


there goes the internet :mad:




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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 03:55 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


and suddenly, productivity during work hours skyrockets.




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inb4 EA buys all bandwidth and charges per minute of low-ping MP 'cos most other game servers lag like shit

too cynical? :|

Microtransactions to stay online. :(



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Comcast (one of the largest internet service providers) says they will not throttle legal content. So if AT&T decides they are going to throttle specific content, everyone moves to Comcast. Repealing net neutrality sounds like a bad deal all around. But all you need is on detractor like Comcast and suddenly repealing net neutrality doesn't mean a thing.




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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 06:24 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You believe Comcast. :olo:



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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 07:39 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Especially considering they were one of those backing the new proposals :dork:



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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 08:57 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


May be the push we need for a true global ad-hoc wifi mesh network. As far as I'm concerned the internet has been dying for years.




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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 09:01 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


YourGrandpa wrote:
Comcast (one of the largest internet service providers) says they will not throttle legal content. So if AT&T decides they are going to throttle specific content, everyone moves to Comcast. Repealing net neutrality sounds like a bad deal all around. But all you need is on detractor like Comcast and suddenly repealing net neutrality doesn't mean a thing.


Hahahahahahahaha


I "work" for a telecom currently that says the same thing. You can bet your ass we'll be shaping traffic the second we can. Telecoms are fucking evil man. If Comcast sticks to it, as well as the others who say the same blind shit. Great. But $$$$$$$$$ man.


What a joke.




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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 09:23 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Gramps is so smart :olo:




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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 09:38 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I wonder how many ISP choices he has, wherever he lives. If one of them dicks him around, can he shop around for another provider?



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PostPosted: 11-21-2017 09:49 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


My internet dominates... Jellus?...




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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 09:41 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I could almost hear the upset cherry picking of my post as I hit the submit button.

Grow up.




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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 09:48 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Cherry picking? Don't flatter yourself. That post was shown to be bullshit in its entirety, not just parts of it




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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 09:58 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Gramps recognizes his idiocy before we do!




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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 10:21 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


From the NYT article comments...

Quote:
In truth, I don't really understand everything that is happening here. I remember sitting in the 5th grade, in P.S. 105, and a man coming in asking us to vote on Pay TV. We took a survey. Of course we thought it was ludicrous at the time to pay for these shows since we had to sit through commercials ( I heard my parents rant about it). They said if we paid, there wouldn't be any commercials; they lied. They are making money on that deal, and I know, somewhere along the line, this administration is making money on what was, so to speak, a free internet. Sure, we have to sit through ridiculous banners selling this or that, and now we have to watch out for Russian intervention, but to pay more or cut services more money to these "would-be" Capitalists even more than we do, is ludicrous once more.




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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 11:24 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/201 ... eutrality/
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Comcast urged Pai's staff to reverse the FCC's classification of broadband as a Title II common carrier service, a move that would eliminate the legal authority the FCC uses to enforce net neutrality rules. Pai has said he intends to do just that, so Comcast will likely get its wish on that point.

But Comcast also wants the FCC to go further by making a declaration that states cannot impose their own regulations on broadband.

Despite calling for the FCC to abandon the legal authority it uses to enforce net neutrality rules, Comcast said it supports "a free and open Internet" and "legally enforceable net neutrality protections." Comcast told Pai's staff that the FCC could adopt net neutrality rules using its other authority—but the FCC tried that in 2010, and this previous attempt at enforcing net neutrality rules was struck down in court.

Alternatively, Comcast said the FCC could decide not to impose its own rules and simply rely on the Federal Trade Commission "to ensure that ISPs' public commitments to core open Internet protections are honored." Such a move would essentially set up a "voluntary" net neutrality system in which ISPs would face no rules and would choose whether to make net neutrality commitments.

Also relevant.



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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 11:39 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Cherry picking? Don't flatter yourself. That post was shown to be bullshit in its entirety, not just parts of it


Yes, cherry picking..

You focus on.
"Comcast (one of the largest internet service providers) says they will not throttle legal content."

Ignore.
"Repealing net neutrality sounds like a bad deal all around."

Then pretend my comment somehow insinuates I believe Comcast's claim.

When in fact I actually said.
"But all you need is one detractor like Comcast"

Fuck you. :tard:




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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 11:46 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Who's the one cherry picking? :olo:



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Upset Q3World posters like you. :olo:




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Transient wrote:
I wonder how many ISP choices he has, wherever he lives. If one of them dicks him around, can he shop around for another provider?



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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 02:13 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Cherry picking thing going nowhere? :rolleyes:


ISP search of my zip code says 5. But it's more realistically 3.




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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 02:41 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ler me guess... Comcast, AT&T and Verizon?

You're fucked, my friend




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YourGrandpa wrote:
Comcast (one of the largest internet service providers) says they will not throttle legal content.

Even though they've already done it secretly, they promise not to do it again! (the uptick at the end is when Netflix paid Comcast off)
https://technical.ly/philly/2014/05/09/ ... t-roundup/
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YourGrandpa wrote:
So if AT&T decides they are going to throttle specific content, everyone moves to Comcast.

Assuming they have that option. If you have 3+ choices offering broadband internet, you are the lucky exception that proves the rule.
https://arstechnica.com/information-tec ... er-speeds/
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Repealing net neutrality sounds like a bad deal all around. But all you need is on detractor like Comcast and suddenly repealing net neutrality doesn't mean a thing.

Let's assume Comcast isn't blowing smoke up your ass and actually follows net neutrality practices in their business model. Do you think people are going to jump ship en masse and switch providers to Comcast because they're "doing the right thing" by not being total sleazebags? The bar has been lowered so fucking much... Like I've already said, they may not have Comcast service where they live. Let's not forget that investors will flip their shit when they learn that Comcast left money on the table.

I do believe I just cherry picked your entire post.



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PostPosted: 11-22-2017 04:52 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Eraser wrote:
Ler me guess... Comcast, AT&T and Verizon?

You're fucked, my friend



Verizon? Naw that shits all slowly being sold to Frontier. and :olo: at that.



also :olo: at gramps. so cute. You're that guy that calls your ISP and bitches with literally no clue what you are talking about. But dag nabit ur computers fine!
:olo:




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shouldnt lifting regulations lead to neutrality? like blockchain technology is decentralizing?

if corporations have control and not the government, isnt that decentralized in a capitalist world?

so we have 2 problems that are named the same and both sides fighting for neutrality.

but dont you think its just a little strange that one side is being pushed on the net with tremendous force, just like they are doing it with anti trump stuff... and the same news outlets and media people? and the organisation leading the battle a soros funded group? the same soros that funds antifa, blm, fake antitrump protests,clintons and so many other fucking wicked things?


hear what this guy has to say for yourself




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:rolleyes:




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Fuck it



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dubz wrote:

hear what this guy has to say for yourself



All I hear is "I LIKE DOLLARS TEEHEE"


Yep, I wanna pay extra to watch netflix because comcast is losing cable subscription rev, sounds good!


Man trumpers are gonna be maaaad when they have to pay extra for incest porn.




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PostPosted: 11-23-2017 05:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


dubz wrote:
shouldnt lifting regulations lead to neutrality? like blockchain technology is decentralizing?

if corporations have control and not the government, isnt that decentralized in a capitalist world?

so we have 2 problems that are named the same and both sides fighting for neutrality.

but dont you think its just a little strange that one side is being pushed on the net with tremendous force, just like they are doing it with anti trump stuff... and the same news outlets and media people? and the organisation leading the battle a soros funded group? the same soros that funds antifa, blm, fake antitrump protests,clintons and so many other fucking wicked things?


what... the actual fuck... :|

i have no idea what point you're trying to make here my dude




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Anyone that thinks something good will come if this passes has their head buried in the sand. Honestly, it's already bad enough as it is. Hearing telco's cry because they aren't making enough money makes my blood boil given how much taxpayer money goes into funding the infrastructure telco's use. Yeah I'm sorry your billions of dollars isn't enough for you.




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I bet Trump tries to build a Great Firewall equivalent next. Can't build a real one? Build a digital one.




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