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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 12-18-2017 12:24 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Etile
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PostPosted: 12-18-2017 01:27 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


it's obviously a flock of geese venting marsh gas, put up there by the Russians to stop Hillary becoming president




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You forgot the chem-trails seremtan.




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PostPosted: 12-18-2017 06:11 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's one of the pinions to support the flat earth's atmosphere



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PostPosted: 12-18-2017 07:54 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


or it could be Lord Kek, sent up by Alex Jones to de-gay the frogs




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PostPosted: 12-18-2017 04:45 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


All orchestrated by the freemasons obviously



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PostPosted: 12-18-2017 10:35 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


OK, tasted and bit so I searched for more... Below the three :D and mention of some other conspiracy stuff towards the end. Hit that and eject.



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PostPosted: 12-19-2017 12:13 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


aluminum prices skyrocket



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PostPosted: 12-19-2017 02:53 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


meanwhile alumnium prices remain stable




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PostPosted: 12-19-2017 03:27 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Doombrain wrote:
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seremtan wrote:
meanwhile alumnium prices remain stable


that's why i don't mine



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Meh, the universe is unfathomably huge. So I don’t see why these reports and others couldn’t be the real deal. I just assume some are and some aren’t...




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i'd do a maverick and shoot that thing just to see what happens, fuck protocol



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xer0s wrote:
Meh, the universe is unfathomably huge. So I don’t see why these reports and others couldn’t be the real deal. I just assume some are and some aren’t...


wow, really? Given the size of our galaxy and energy needed to cross those gaps you think any life with those capabilities would a) come here to fly around and b) be seen doing it?




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First of all, it may not be “life” as we know it. More than likely a super advanced alien species would send out enormous amounts of probes and drones, opposed to going themselves, mainly because it’d be much easier.

Secondly, the enormous size of our galaxy also comes with an enormous timeline. A civilization one million years older than us could have easily colonized or established the entire Milky Way by now.

So,

a) why not come here and fly around? They could theoretically have an infinite number of probes to send out to monitor millions of planets.

b) why not be seen? What do they have to gain from sneaking around?




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Seconds after the above....

Doombrain wrote:
wow, really? Given the size of our galaxy and energy needed to cross those gaps you think any life with those capabilities would a) come here to fly around and b) be seen doing it?


My 2 cents..
A/ We visit zoos and planetary bodies
B/ Maybe they don't see us as intelligent life, have no 'First Contact' protocols or have a care

An interesting discussion ensues ..



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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 12:06 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Also,

Doombrain wrote:
wow, really?


Is this really necessary? Can’t we have a fun conversation without the snarky remarks? I’m not Gramps ffs...




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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 12:20 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
First of all, it may not be “life” as we know it. More than likely a super advanced alien species would send out enormous amounts of probes and drones, opposed to going themselves, mainly because it’d be much easier.

Secondly, the enormous size of our galaxy also comes with an enormous timeline. A civilization one million years older than us could have easily colonized or established the entire Milky Way by now.

So,

a) why not come here and fly around? They could theoretically have an infinite number of probes to send out to monitor millions of planets.

b) why not be seen? What do they have to gain from sneaking around?


This is a road to nowhere, but...

There are billions of Earth-type planets in our galaxy. Any resource needed could be found without 'sneaking' around here unless they exist in the local region, say 1'000'000ly. If that was the case, and they could visit, we'd have had better proof than your standard BW grainy images.

Another major pain in the ass for people who believe we're already in contact is there's no reason to visit as we have nothing to offer and if there were super civilised they wouldn't allow us to detect them, 'prime directive' in sci-fi n shit.

Personally, I believe there are millions of civilisations in the Milky Way but none of them makes it to interstellar travel before they are wiped out by a natural or random event. We only have another two billion years to crack FTL travel before our sun starts going nova, that's if we're not wiped out by a thousand natural events or ourselves (as cheesy as that is (USA USA USA)).

Fermi Paradox bro.

https://www.seti.org/seti-institute/pro ... mi-paradox




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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 12:21 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
Also,

Doombrain wrote:
wow, really?


Is this really necessary? Can’t we have a fun conversation without the snarky remarks? I’m not Gramps ffs...


Sorry bud, it wasn't meant to be that way. I'm genuinely shocked you believe we're in contact.




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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 12:24 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey 7 wrote:
Seconds after the above....

Doombrain wrote:
wow, really? Given the size of our galaxy and energy needed to cross those gaps you think any life with those capabilities would a) come here to fly around and b) be seen doing it?


My 2 cents..
A/ We visit zoos and planetary bodies
B/ Maybe they don't see us as intelligent life, have no 'First Contact' protocols or have a care

An interesting discussion ensues ..


Too much Hollywood for you. Might like to read up on energy needed to even approach lightspeed. That's based on what we KNOW, not what we think.




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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 12:41 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I agree with Doombrain.




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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 12:52 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's impossible to understand the distances we're casually talking about, I don't think the human brain is capable of understanding it. I mean, this is just a map on the local region... and yet people actually believe we're being visited because we're interesting? :dts:

http://stars.chromeexperiments.com/




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I'm surprised that idiot queeOs thinks any of the stupid shit he says deserves reasonable consideration.

What a moron. :olo:




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Kempston Joy
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xer0s, this is your fault. You said his name.




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Doombrain wrote:
xer0s wrote:
First of all, it may not be “life” as we know it. More than likely a super advanced alien species would send out enormous amounts of probes and drones, opposed to going themselves, mainly because it’d be much easier.

Secondly, the enormous size of our galaxy also comes with an enormous timeline. A civilization one million years older than us could have easily colonized or established the entire Milky Way by now.

So,

a) why not come here and fly around? They could theoretically have an infinite number of probes to send out to monitor millions of planets.

b) why not be seen? What do they have to gain from sneaking around?


This is a road to nowhere, but...

There are billions of Earth-type planets in our galaxy. Any resource needed could be found without 'sneaking' around here unless they exist in the local region, say 1'000'000ly. If that was the case, and they could visit, we'd have had better proof than your standard BW grainy images.

Another major pain in the ass for people who believe we're already in contact is there's no reason to visit as we have nothing to offer and if there were super civilised they wouldn't allow us to detect them, 'prime directive' in sci-fi n shit.

Personally, I believe there are millions of civilisations in the Milky Way but none of them makes it to interstellar travel before they are wiped out by a natural or random event. We only have another two billion years to crack FTL travel before our sun starts going nova, that's if we're not wiped out by a thousand natural events or ourselves (as cheesy as that is (USA USA USA)).

Fermi Paradox bro.

https://www.seti.org/seti-institute/pro ... mi-paradox


I’ve actually read a great deal on the Fermi Paradox and posted about it already:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=50553&hilit=Fermi

Again, I don’t think they would need to sneak around for any reason. And I doubt they would visit for resources. It could just be the equivalent to a galactic library probe. Maybe they just want to have records of every planet worth tracking.

As far as not allowing us to detect them, again that goes back to trying to guess their motive, which is virtually impossible. Prime directive is an imaginary concept humans created. Do we try to hide from ants?

I agree, most probably don’t make it to “advanced” stages of intelligence due to getting slammed by meteors and having to reset their technology. But we can’t be certain all have been stuck in lower level advancement.

I guess what I’m getting at is that there are an endless amount of possibilities. And to just brush it off and say for certain there are no visitors (drone or biological) seems to be a little short sighted.

Don’t get me wrong, I believe most of the sightings are bullshit. But there’s no reason to believe some, no matter how small a percentage, could be legit.

tl;dr For the most part I agree with you, but I can’t completely dismiss it because the possibilities and unknowns are too great...




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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 01:56 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Doombrain wrote:
xer0s, this is your fault. You said his name.


In my defense, I’m pretty sure he has me on ignore. So it was actually your quote that summoned the blockhead...




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Speaking of being slammed by meteors. Apparently there is mounting evidence that there has been a shitload more recent impacts than we initially thought. One as recently as 5000 years ago. And another around 12,000 years ago. They’re starting to put the pieces of our history together. And it might be that we have gone through many, many resets of society.

Check out Randall Carlson’s work...




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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 02:32 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dumbrains assumptions are based on human understandings of physics and technology... Maybe intelligent beings can instantly travel anywhere in the universe with minimal energy requirements? Maybe dumbrain is just a complete moron? Who knows?...




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Memphis wrote:
1) outmaneuvering

2) go 'lol base, i'm seeing shit i can't explain, nm tho, ffs, lol'?



1) ffs

2) the guys goes 'it's a drone'

3) you see and hear what you want to apparently.

leave thinking to others, you're shit at it




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scared? wrote:
Maybe intelligent beings can instantly travel anywhere in the universe with minimal energy requirements?


travelling through space is either by

a) ejecting a lot of mass out the back of your vehicle (low energy requirement but too slow), or
b) deforming space between yourself and your destination (faster, but insane energy requirement)

tl;dr get fucked




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xer0s wrote:
Speaking of being slammed by meteors. Apparently there is mounting evidence that there has been a shitload more recent impacts than we initially thought. One as recently as 5000 years ago. And another around 12,000 years ago. They’re starting to put the pieces of our history together. And it might be that we have gone through many, many resets of society.

Check out Randall Carlson’s work...

He's been on Joe Rogan's podcast several times, most recently back in May:


Roll a joint and expand your mind. :up:



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I’d love to, but drug tests and all...




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Lol semancan is such an idiot...




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PostPosted: 12-20-2017 10:14 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


what's more probable?

1)Is it possible this was man made? How does an entity carry on with such advanced machinery for over 50 years ( lets not forget similar early UFO reports from the roswell era etc. ) without any information about it being compromised? How can a closed system like that advance science and technology to such effect , independently from the rest of the world? Things simply don't work that way.
The above scenario seems very unlikely.

2)So now you have the "it's aliens" option, but that's potentially an even bigger pill to swallow considering what we know about interstellar travel, Fermi's paradox etc. But no matter how incredible that would be, this option has a lot of unknown variables essentially making it a valid possibility.

3)Assuming there wasn't an alarming level of incompetence on display that day, what happened is indeed incredible. Which leads me to believe that the report and the people involved are being disingenuous. The video is taken out of context. Government entities lying to the public while having a hidden agenda is not that incredible and it's nothing new.

Occam's razor will probably win this one.




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