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Your Other Daddy
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PostPosted: 08-10-2019 01:56 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Who? :smirk:



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PostPosted: 08-10-2019 02:19 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Wow :(




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PostPosted: 08-10-2019 02:52 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


*Suicided.
Countdown to a fire in the evidence room starts... now.




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Who? :smirk:


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PostPosted: 08-10-2019 05:23 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


High profile convict, on suicide watch, and being monitored closely 24/7.

Sounds like he could've blown the lid off the entire operation so the Clintons tied up a loose end.




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PostPosted: 08-10-2019 09:50 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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*Suicided.
Countdown to a fire in the evidence room starts... now.

Russian style suicide... 2 bullets to the back of the head




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 01:16 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Super dodgy




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 04:38 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Everyone's opinion about this "suicide" is the same. I wonder if there was surveillance video (if he was on 24/7 watch)? You'd figure there'd have to be.




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 07:01 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


He was on suicide watch.




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 07:30 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yes he was. Apparently they watched him suicide. :|




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 10:03 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Turns out he wasn't.

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Initial reports indicated Epstein was placed on “suicide watch” in late July after officials believed he may have attempted suicide in his jail cell a week after being denied bail. Suicide watch generally entails extra supervision, medical assistance, and sometimes physical restraints; prison officials told the New York Times Epstein wasn’t on suicide watch at the time of his death.

According to NBC News, the sex offender was taken off of suicide watch a few days before his death. It is not clear why Epstein was found not to be at risk of dying by suicide; however, corrections officials usually require an incarcerated person to submit to an assessment before changing their suicide watch status.

He was in the SHU, so he should have been watched more closely anyway, but I wouldn't be surprised if the guards looked the other way. Pedos are at the bottom of the food chain in prison, after all.




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 11:31 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That's convenient. Now he wasn't on suicide watch. I guess that makes easier to explain his death.

Nothing to see here, move along. :rolleyes:




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 12:28 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Super sketchy indeed. Hopefully they’ve gathered enough evidence from him to make some more arrests. Makes ya wonder how high up this shit went...




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 01:20 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


i didn't know you could fit a grassy knoll in an american jail cell




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PostPosted: 08-11-2019 07:26 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Bill Clinton did it



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PostPosted: 08-12-2019 05:11 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


If anyone had the means to do that it would be the current administration. I'm not saying don't go after the Clintons but to think Trump didn't have some involvement with Epstein's pedo island is laughable.




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PostPosted: 08-12-2019 05:46 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah but Trump being a rapist and child molester is nothing new or shocking. I think this was handled to protect the rich and powerful whose involvement wasn't known yet.




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PostPosted: 08-12-2019 06:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Canidae wrote:
Bill Clinton did it

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Κracus wrote:
If anyone had the means to do that it would be the current administration.

This administration is too incompetent to pull off a stunt like that, not to mention how information leaks out of it like a sieve. Look at the bright side: now we know for sure that aliens don't exist. Drumpf wouldn't be able to help but blab about it immediately. :rolleyes:

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Yeah but Drumpf being a rapist and child molester is nothing new or shocking. I think this was handled to protect the rich and powerful whose involvement wasn't known yet.

Hmm. There are various other people who the police are looking into as co-conspirators, I wonder if they will they be handled as well?




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Etile
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PostPosted: 08-13-2019 01:40 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


so how did he kill himself exactly?




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PostPosted: 08-13-2019 01:46 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That remains unclear.
Also those handshaped bruises on his neck are from before.




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Etile
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PostPosted: 08-13-2019 11:22 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


so they're sure he killed himself but they just don't know how?




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 08-14-2019 05:00 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Epstein’s cellmate: Ex-cop, murdered 4 people




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PostPosted: 08-14-2019 05:32 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lol, it's like an artist's rendition of how duhard sees himself.




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the resemblance is there :olo:



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PostPosted: 08-14-2019 11:01 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


He was killed, no question about it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html




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PostPosted: 08-15-2019 03:12 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Can't read that article. Paywall




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Digital Nausea
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This shit is fucking crazy. It actually really pisses me off. His confession could have brought down an empire of pedophilia...




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Can't read that article. Paywall

Hmm, annoying. I only got a message I could read 3 articles for free.

Anyway, the gist is that the autopsy turned out he had broken bones in his neck. One of those bones, while it sometimes happens when someone hangs himself, is most commonly seen in men when they are strangled.




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"fuck off strangler"




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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/nyre ... icers.html (paywall)

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The two staff members who were guarding the jail unit where Jeffrey Epstein apparently killed himself fell asleep, failed to check on him for about three hours and falsified records to cover up their mistake, according to several law enforcement and prison officials with knowledge of the matter.
Those disclosures came on Tuesday as the two employees were placed on administrative leave and the warden of the jail, the Metropolitan Correctional Center in Manhattan, was temporarily reassigned, pending the outcome of the investigation into Mr. Epstein’s death, the Justice Department announced.

The two staff members in the special housing unit where Mr. Epstein was held — 9 South — falsely recorded in a log that they had checked on the financier, who was facing sex trafficking charges, every 30 minutes, as was required, two of the officials said. Such false entries in an official log could constitute a federal crime.

In fact, the two people guarding Mr. Epstein had been asleep for some or all of the three hours, three of the officials said.

The attorney general, William P. Barr, on Monday ordered the Justice Department’s inspector general to look into how Mr. Epstein had managed to commit suicide while in custody and why he had been taken off a suicide watch 12 days earlier.

“We will get to the bottom of what happened,” Mr. Barr said.

The warden, Lamine N’Diaye, will be transferred to a Bureau of Prisons office in Philadelphia while the F.B.I. and the Justice Department’s inspector general conduct inquiries. The Justice Department said in a statement that it might take additional punitive actions.

Prison staff discovered Mr. Epstein, 66, dead in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center at 6:30 a.m. on Saturday, officials said. He had apparently hanged himself with a bedsheet, likely fastening the sheet to a top bunk and pitching himself forward, law enforcement and prison officials said.

Mr. Epstein had been awaiting trial on charges he had sexually abused scores of teenage girls at his mansions in Manhattan and Palm Beach, Fla.

He had apparently tried to commit suicide once before, on July 23, shortly after he was denied bail, which resulted in him being placed on suicide watch, prison officials familiar with the incident have said.

Six days later, prison officials determined that he was no longer a threat to his own life and returned him to a cell in the 9 South housing unit with another inmate, officials said. That inmate was later transferred out of the cell, leaving Mr. Epstein alone on Friday night.

Though it is standard practice to house people who have recently been taken off suicide watch with another person, the prison did not replace Mr. Epstein’s cellmate.

The Justice Department, which oversees the Bureau of Prisons, did not immediately identify the two correctional officers who were placed on administrative leave.

Two prison officials familiar with the incident said the two staff members had not looked in on Mr. Epstein for about three hours before he was found.

One of the staff members was a former correctional officer who had taken a different position at the detention center that did not involve guarding detainees. He had volunteered to work again as a correctional officer for the extra overtime pay, a law enforcement official and an employee at the jail said.

The second officer, a woman who was assigned to that wing, had been ordered to work overtime because the jail was short staffed.

James Petrucci, the warden at a federal prison in Otisville, N.Y., has been named acting warden of the Manhattan jail, officials said.

Some union leaders for prison workers expressed dismay with Mr. Barr’s decision to allow the warden to continue working, even as the two staff members were placed on leave.

“It makes me angry that they reassigned the warden,” said Jose Rojas, an official in the prison employees’ union and a teacher at the Coleman prison complex in Sumterville, Fla. “They didn’t put him on administrative leave like the others. The warden made the call to take Epstein off suicide watch and to remove his cellmate. That is egregious.”

Since Saturday, Mr. Barr has been briefed multiple times a day on the inquiries into Mr. Epstein’s death, a Justice Department official said.

In addition to the investigations by the Justice Department, the inspector general and the F.B.I., two other reviews of Mr. Epstein’s death were underway, a Justice Department official said.

A team of psychologists from the Bureau of Prisons visited the Manhattan jail on Tuesday to review each step of the decision to take Mr. Epstein off suicide watch.

On Wednesday, an “after-action team” — led by the bureau’s Southeast regional director — is scheduled to be at the prison to determine whether employees and officials followed protocols in the days and weeks before Mr. Epstein died, the official said.

Mr. Epstein’s death has drawn sharp criticism from Republican and Democratic lawmakers.

On Monday, the chairman and ranking member of the House Judiciary Committee sent a letter to the acting director of the Bureau of Prisons, Hugh Hurwitz, demanding answers about how Mr. Epstein could have been unsupervised long enough to take his own life.

The letter said Mr. Epstein’s apparent suicide had brought to light “severe miscarriages” or deficiencies in how inmates are managed at the jail and had “allowed the deceased to ultimately evade facing justice.”

It was signed by Representatives Jerrold Nadler, a New York Democrat, and Doug Collins, a Georgia Republican.

Mr. Nadler and Mr. Collins demanded that the Bureau of Prisons hand over by Aug. 21 any details about Mr. Epstein’s mental health evaluations and his housing, as well as the bureau’s protocols for handling inmates considered at risk of suicide.

They also requested to be told how Mr. Epstein was being monitored and what the surveillance cameras may have recorded in or near Mr. Epstein’s cell.

At the same time, Senator Ben Sasse, a Nebraska Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, urged Mr. Barr on Tuesday to rip up an agreement federal prosecutors in Florida had reached with Mr. Epstein in 2008 that shielded not only him, but also any other co-conspirators who may have helped him lure teenage girls into prostitution.

“This crooked deal cannot stand,” Mr. Sasse said in his letter.




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PostPosted: 08-15-2019 10:58 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That's some Grade A bullshit right there.




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PostPosted: 08-15-2019 04:06 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The bottom of this is in Epstein's grave. Nothing will come of it. Too may billionaires at risk.

Just another example of corruption in government.




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