Jee why didn't they just ask Doombrain? he says it's all overblown and too late for all those measures.

Maybe we shouldn't be helping the weakest in society to recover from a corona infection.
I'm aware saying this will be very unpopular in certain circles, but hear me out.

A severe corona patient can be holed up in IC for three weeks, possibly longer. It's not just the number of people, it's also how long they take to recover.
A hospital can only help X number of people. Should they really throw Y amount of resources at a single 90 year old to help him, or should we use those same resources to help two 65 year old people who recover in half the time or at least have twice the chance to survive as the 90 year old. Any effort put into a person that eventually dies anyway is ultimately a waste of effort.
In an optimal situation (resource management wise) you'd only be helping the people who will be saved with minimal effort but who'd likely die without that help.

I realise that's easier said than done, but the situation in Italy, where doctors have to choose who to save, it's painted as the worst situation imaginable, but maybe we should just accept the fact that this will be the modus operandi all over the world if we want to help as many people through this as possible.

If that means a 90 yo Grandpa is straight out of luck, then that's hard, but a fair reality.

I think world leadership needs a complete overhaul. We wouldn't need to choose who lives and dies if we had competent leadership.

Yeah I'm sure you'd be saying the same if it were your 90-yr old grandpa in ICU because some people like to eat bats and shit.

Maybe we shouldn't be helping the weakest in society to recover from a corona infection.
I'm aware saying this will be very unpopular in certain circles, but hear me out.

A severe corona patient can be holed up in IC for three weeks, possibly longer. It's not just the number of people, it's also how long they take to recover.
A hospital can only help X number of people. Should they really throw Y amount of resources at a single 90 year old to help him, or should we use those same resources to help two 65 year old people who recover in half the time or at least have twice the chance to survive as the 90 year old. Any effort put into a person that eventually dies anyway is ultimately a waste of effort.
In an optimal situation (resource management wise) you'd only be helping the people who will be saved with minimal effort but who'd likely die without that help.

I realise that's easier said than done, but the situation in Italy, where doctors have to choose who to save, it's painted as the worst situation imaginable, but maybe we should just accept the fact that this will be the modus operandi all over the world if we want to help as many people through this as possible.

If that means a 90 yo Grandpa is straight out of luck, then that's hard, but a fair reality.

Maybe we shouldn't be helping the weakest in society to recover from a corona infection.
I'm aware saying this will be very unpopular in certain circles, but hear me out.

A severe corona patient can be holed up in IC for three weeks, possibly longer. It's not just the number of people, it's also how long they take to recover.
A hospital can only help X number of people. Should they really throw Y amount of resources at a single 90 year old to help him, or should we use those same resources to help two 65 year old people who recover in half the time or at least have twice the chance to survive as the 90 year old. Any effort put into a person that eventually dies anyway is ultimately a waste of effort.
In an optimal situation (resource management wise) you'd only be helping the people who will be saved with minimal effort but who'd likely die without that help.

I realise that's easier said than done, but the situation in Italy, where doctors have to choose who to save, it's painted as the worst situation imaginable, but maybe we should just accept the fact that this will be the modus operandi all over the world if we want to help as many people through this as possible.

If that means a 90 yo Grandpa is straight out of luck, then that's hard, but a fair reality.

This isn't Logans Run... And also why flattening the curve is so important meaning health service capacity is never pushed past the point where ghouls like you decides who lives and dies.......

Have you ever read about Flattening The Curve? Read up on it now. I tried to tell you days ago.

Maybe we shouldn't be helping the weakest in society to recover from a corona infection.
I'm aware saying this will be very unpopular in certain circles, but hear me out.

Yeah I'm sure you'd be saying the same if it were your 90-yr old grandpa in ICU because some people like to eat bats and shit.

Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by the SARS-associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV), which uses angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as its receptor for cell entry. A group of SARS-like CoVs (SL-CoVs) has been identified in horseshoe bats. SL-CoVs and SARS-CoVs share identical genome organizations and high sequence identities, with the main exception of the N terminus of the spike protein (S), known to be responsible for receptor binding in CoVs. In this study, we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat. In addition to full-length S of SL-CoV and SARS-CoV, a series of S chimeras was constructed by inserting different sequences of the SARS-CoV S into the SL-CoV S backbone. Several important observations were made from this study. First, the SL-CoV S was unable to use any of the three ACE2 molecules as its receptor. Second, the SARS-CoV S failed to enter cells expressing the bat ACE2. Third, the chimeric S covering the previously defined receptor-binding domain gained its ability to enter cells via human ACE2, albeit with different efficiencies for different constructs. Fourth, a minimal insert region (amino acids 310 to 518) was found to be sufficient to convert the SL-CoV S from non-ACE2 binding to human ACE2 binding, indicating that the SL-CoV S is largely compatible with SARS-CoV S protein both in structure and in function. The significance of these findings in relation to virus origin, virus recombination, and host switching is discussed.

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In this study, a human immunodeficiency virus (HIV)-based pseudovirus system was employed to address these issues. Our results indicated that the SL-CoV S protein is unable to use ACE2 proteins of different species for cell entry and that SARS-CoV S protein also failed to bind the ACE2 molecule of the horseshoe bat, Rhinolophus pearsonii. However, when the RBD of SL-CoV S was replaced with that from the SARS-CoV S, the hybrid S protein was able to use the huACE2 for cell entry, implying that the SL-CoV S proteins are structurally and functionally very similar to the SARS-CoV S. These results suggest that although the SL-CoVs discovered in bats so far are unlikely to infect humans using ACE2 as a receptor, it remains to be seen whether they are able to use other surface molecules of certain human cell types to gain entry. It is also conceivable that these viruses may become infectious to humans if they undergo N-terminal sequence variation, for example, through recombination with other CoVs, which in turn might lead to a productive interaction with ACE2 or other surface proteins on human cells.

Because there's no money in it. Duh.

You’ve become a real cynical dick, you know that?

I missed this...very excellent

Fake news, unfortunately.
The canals are looking clean because less boats go through it. Normally boats kick up dust in the water. The fish are always there, they're just harder to see. The picture of the swans is not taken in Venice, but some other place where they are common visitors.

The girl who owns the Twitter account has admitted to not knowing the exact details about the pictures but has stated in an interview that she's not removing the tweet because it's her personal best in number of likes.

Edit: source https://www.nationalgeographic.com/anim ... dia-posts/

Does anyone here actually know someone that has it?