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seremtan
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PostPosted: 07-31-2020 12:39 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


thing is though, vaccines only work against existing strains. if it mutates, you still get sick
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PostPosted: 07-31-2020 02:02 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


And if it's anything like a flu vaccine, it won't prevent you from getting it, it might just reduce the severity of it. Better than nothing, but not the magic barrier some people attribute to vaccines.
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PostPosted: 07-31-2020 11:23 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Given top severity is death, I'll take it
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PostPosted: 08-02-2020 11:38 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I wonder, do you have these despicable criminal types where you're at?



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PostPosted: 08-03-2020 12:41 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
thing is though, vaccines only work against existing strains. if it mutates, you still get sick


Yeah, this is the important thing to remember. As long as there are anti-vax morons out there, it allows the virus opportunity to mutate and invalidate any potential vaccine.
It's all very well saying "let them get sick and die", but the longer the virus is able to remain viable, even in a relatively small population, the bigger the chance it mutates and we're back to square one.
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PostPosted: 08-03-2020 10:22 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Mat Linnett wrote:
seremtan wrote:
thing is though, vaccines only work against existing strains. if it mutates, you still get sick


Yeah, this is the important thing to remember. As long as there are anti-vax morons out there, it allows the virus opportunity to mutate and invalidate any potential vaccine.
It's all very well saying "let them get sick and die", but the longer the virus is able to remain viable, even in a relatively small population, the bigger the chance it mutates and we're back to square one.


We will probably have to get a new shot every year or so for some time to come. Just like the normal flue-shot should be taken annually.
I had never taken the shot against the normal flue. Just 'cause. But I will take the anti-sars-cov2 shot anytime it is necessary.
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PostPosted: 08-03-2020 02:39 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


i think we're all going to be washing our hands a lot more than usual for the next few years

time to load up on Carex shares
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PostPosted: 08-03-2020 03:11 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Near enough to another week later...
Reported cases Worldwide

22 July 14,987,067

29 July 16,808,862

4 August 18,422,925

Total deaths
• World 696,556
• USA 158,887
• Brazil 94,665
• India 38,971

Source #1 Source #2



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PostPosted: 08-05-2020 10:21 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I nominate these people for a Darwin award
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A new report today from the CDC that looked at 15 adults who drank hand sanitizer found to contain methanol spells out the consequences of this in clearer terms: 4 people died and 3 people are now blind. And this may only be the tip of the iceberg, with many other deaths possibly not reported due to this toxicologic emergency. [/Quote]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertglat ... 2b5f801998
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PostPosted: 08-05-2020 10:37 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


It's tragic that the education system failed these people so badly, and that my government was so incompetent that it gave dangerous advice to desperate people. So much avoidable suffering made even worse by that spray-tanned buffoon. :(
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PostPosted: 08-05-2020 10:53 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah but all Americans should vote Trump 2020 because it would make a good statement about Biden not being an ideal candidate.

That's what YGP told me.
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PostPosted: 08-06-2020 04:49 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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It's tragic that the education system failed these people so badly, and that my government was so incompetent that it gave dangerous advice to desperate people. So much avoidable suffering made even worse by that spray-tanned buffoon. :(


It wasn’t the education system that told them to drink sanitizer. It was social media. Fuck Facebook...
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PostPosted: 08-06-2020 05:13 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Transient wrote:
It's tragic that the education system failed these people so badly, and that my government was so incompetent that it gave dangerous advice to desperate people. So much avoidable suffering made even worse by that spray-tanned buffoon. :(


It wasn’t the education system that told them to drink sanitizer. It was social media. Fuck Facebook...


Well... Judging from the outside it seems like general education is really a problem in the US. What's shown in "Idiocracy" does not seem so far off. And there seems to be a broadly shared anti-intellectual sentiment.
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PostPosted: 08-06-2020 07:49 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Idiocracy is my favourite historical documentary
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PostPosted: 08-06-2020 10:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
It wasn’t the education system that told them to drink sanitizer. It was social media. Fuck Facebook...

No, but it didn't do any good sharpening peoples' critical thinking skills around here. Social media hasn't made a bunch of people in other countries drink hand sanitizer to my knowledge....
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PostPosted: 08-07-2020 12:15 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


SM really can change people. I had the opportunity to watch some close relative drift away into the "conspiracy-bubble".
The Gates and generell "Corona is Fake"- bubble.
I can't reach that person anymore. He's gone to never-never-land.

He did have issues before. In hindsight, control over his circumstances seemed extraordinarily important to him.
This situation stripped him bare of any personell control. He just couldn't deal with that.
So he became convinced that someone or even better a system must be working against what he accepts as the norm. In other words, he's just not mentally able to just ride with this situation.
Unfortunately there are a lot of german SM-channels of every political niche that feed with all kinds of bullshit surrounding the situation trying to catch such instable persons.

Maybe instable is the wrong word. People who are kind of lost in this situation.
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PostPosted: 08-07-2020 02:09 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Not being familiar with the term SM other than "sadomasochism", that post reads a little weird.
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PostPosted: 08-07-2020 05:31 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Reported cases Worldwide

29 July 16,808,862

4 August 18,422,925

8 August 19,539,748

Total deaths
• World 723,991
• USA 164,094
• Brazil 99,702
• India 42,578

Source #1 Source #2



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PostPosted: 08-07-2020 05:39 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


... and I saw this somewhere, thought it fitting.

The spread of Covid-19 is based on two factors:

1. How dense the population is.

2. How dense the population is.



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PostPosted: 08-07-2020 06:04 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Clever. :up:
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PostPosted: 08-08-2020 09:58 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


very good :up:
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PostPosted: 08-09-2020 04:32 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


How do the "death aren't that bad" ppl explain this one away?...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ll-us.html
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PostPosted: 08-09-2020 05:37 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Deniers will generally just stop talking at that point and change the subject.
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PostPosted: 08-09-2020 07:03 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


morons gonna moron...
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scared? wrote:
How do the "death aren't that bad" ppl explain this one away?...

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/202 ... ll-us.html


Stats like these have been around for a couple months now. It’s really one of the best arguments people can make. And yet I’ve tried to use it, only to give up because, well you know, morons...
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PostPosted: 08-11-2020 01:32 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Reported cases Worldwide

4 August 18,422,925

8 August 19,539,748

12 August 20,467,984

Total deaths
• World 743,505
• USA 167,371
• Brazil 103,026
• India 46,188

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PostPosted: 08-11-2020 01:36 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


.... and

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New Zealand records first new local Covid-19 cases in 102 days.

... New Zealand has recorded four new cases of Covid-19 after 102 days without any community transmission, the prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, has announced at a late-night press conference.
........Three other members of the family of six living in the house have tested positive for coronavirus; the others have tested negative. One of those diagnosed was a preschooler.



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PostPosted: 08-11-2020 02:37 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


How ironic would it be if our statistician becomes a statistic...
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PostPosted: 08-11-2020 03:30 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
Don’t consider it. Do it...


You're quick!

xer0s wrote:
How ironic would it be if our statistician becomes a statistic...


I did consider and am off to take one now but figure I'd be rather unlucky to score here as there have been no new cases in my state for 10+ days, then I read the New Zealand latest....



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PostPosted: 08-11-2020 05:49 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


CV tested and in isolation awaiting results... Seems my reason for the test disappeared :eek:

Wait, no there it is in the "What is new in your little world?" topic....

I am suffering cold/flu like symptoms :eek: and the first in years.



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PostPosted: 08-11-2020 06:22 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The suspense is killing me!
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PostPosted: 08-11-2020 08:19 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Lol...
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PostPosted: 08-12-2020 07:04 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey went radio silent... :paranoid:
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PostPosted: 08-12-2020 01:07 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
Whiskey went radio silent... :paranoid:


Probably worst head cold I have had in years still unfolding...



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