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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-30-2020 05:30 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The country is burning. People are pissed (rightly so). Worldwide pandemic + large crowds of rioting and protest. 2020 is so fuct...




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PostPosted: 05-30-2020 06:55 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yes, seeing it al on the news here recent nights... just so glad I am not there.

Look, I understand the emotion for a black death in custody but not the senseless and continued riots. I suggest opportunist criminals are rampant and I'd be shooting the bastards!

No racsim is intended as in Australia, it is acceptable to say 'black deaths in custody'.



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PostPosted: 05-30-2020 09:17 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey 7 wrote:
Look, I understand the emotion for a black death in custody but not the senseless and continued riots


So what do you recommend they should do?




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Whiskey 7 wrote:
I suggest opportunist criminals are rampant and I'd be shooting the bastards!


Sounds sensible.




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PostPosted: 05-30-2020 11:27 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Captain Mazda wrote:
So what do you recommend they should do?


As officialdom? Shoot looters on sight!
As society? Use the full force of the law and judicial system and hang the murdering bastard!

I just don't see the continued civil unrest is going to bring back the dead. Better get the perpetrator off the street and in jail for years. Just my opinion, no more or less.

Senseless and continued riots, i suggest is a slippery downhill slope in pandemic times especially with the populace armed and ready to shoot :question: :paranoid:



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PostPosted: 05-30-2020 11:42 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


-> people protest against police brutality.
-> old man whiskey suggests more police brutality as a solution.


Yeeeeaaaahhhh, about that suggestion..... :rolleyes:




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PostPosted: 05-30-2020 11:47 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Protests are one thing. Shit I have protested and shaken the gates of our state parliament house grounds, I have a photo somewhere but arson, riots and looting is another matter all together.

I'll close saying God bless America. You need it!



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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 12:11 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Just watching the 6pm Sunday news here. With 29 cities across the USA ablaze, people snatching automatic rifles off Police in the street, anarchy everywhere... Buildings set afire a block from the White House.

No this is no protest against Police brutality. It is mayhem. Good luck USA. You need it......



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So when the bodies pile up, TV show the piles of dead looters being moved away and days of police shooting people they are going to calm down? These people have nothing left after Covid-19 and Trump.

I thought the older generation were meant to be wiser.




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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 02:12 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Every day it gets closer to the horrific alternate future where Biff is president.



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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 06:50 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Trump does resemble Biff actually...




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Holy shit

Quote:
Working on a list, please feel free to share it:

firing something at innocent person on their porch:

https://streamable.com/u2jzoo

cop appearing to be enjoying himself today:

https://v.redd.it/jjclrdzp8x151

cop shooting something at guy for saying "fuck you":

https://v.redd.it/zepg0b43ly151

cops breaking supplies for peaceful protestors:

https://v.redd.it/v8x8isj0xz151

nypd driving into protestors:

https://v.redd.it/mztm15kh00251 https://gfycat.com/misguidedrecklesscod

cops shoving an old dude to the ground:

https://v.redd.it/bluggpblrz151

police actively seeking out fights compilation:

https://v.redd.it/m82yxl4qh0251

cop driving at people aggressively on a campus:

https://v.redd.it/ngxvkoro60251

cop shooting rubber bullets at people watching from apartment:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Sarah_Mojara ... 78400?s=09

police shooting the press with rubber bullets:

https://v.redd.it/o3v8ps7rat151

police arresting a CNN reporter:

https://v.redd.it/yce9bpk8mo151

police doing a drive-by pepper spraying

https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanUhl/st ... 6316228609

photographer being pepper sprayed:

https://i.redd.it/4ix8f3j6dy151.jpg

guy with hands in the air gets his mask ripped off and pepper sprayed:

https://v.redd.it/wlx0gyoe21251

lady who was coming home with groceries who got a rubber bullet to the head:

https://i.redd.it/ns0uj557x0251.jpg

https://mobile.twitter.com/KevinRKrause ... 6339675137

reporter blinded by rubber bullets:

https://mobile.twitter.com/KillerMartin ... 99361?s=19

reporter describes getting tear gassed:

https://mobile.twitter.com/mollyhf/stat ... 2613692422

couple getting yanked out of their car and tased for violating curfew:

https://mobile.twitter.com/GAFollowers/ ... 65410?s=19

young woman gets shoved to the ground by officer:

https://mobile.twitter.com/whitney_hu/s ... 95843?s=20

reporter sheltering in gas station is pepper sprayed: https://twitter.com/MichaelAdams317

reporter trying to get home gets window shot out: https://twitter.com/JaredGoyette/status ... 3476299778

cops come at a guy for filming a police car burning:

https://twitter.com/johncusack/status/1 ... 4242228229

photographer arrested:

https://youtu.be/9wgkGLmphLE

Columbus police assaulting protestors:

https://twitter.com/KRobPhoto/status/12 ... 1469252610

congresswoman sprayed with pepper spray during protest:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/30/politics ... index.html

7 protesters fired on with rubber bullets:

https://v.redd.it/tal1ncha4o151

cops pepper spraying a group of protestors without provocation https://v.redd.it/0dxnkso0a1251

young child allegedly pepper sprayed:

https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/video ... le-protest

horse tramples young woman, police investigating: https://www.click2houston.com/news/loca ... ton-rally/

cop pushes protestor with his bike

https://twitter.com/ava/status/1266797973834395648?s=20

Reuters reporters detail being shot at with rubber bullets:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-minn ... SKBN237050


https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/ ... targeting/




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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 07:56 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ameria is fucked up right now. So fucked up
https://mobile.twitter.com/stephaniejin ... 36961?s=12




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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 09:07 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey 7 wrote:
As officialdom? Shoot looters on sight!
As society? Use the full force of the law and judicial system and hang the murdering bastard!

I just don't see the continued civil unrest is going to bring back the dead. Better get the perpetrator off the street and in jail for years. Just my opinion, no more or less.

Senseless and continued riots, i suggest is a slippery downhill slope in pandemic times especially with the populace armed and ready to shoot :question: :paranoid:


Whiskey, I like you but your old world racist bullshit has spewed out of every orifice right now, not to mention your past love of the death penalty and desire to turn the Middle East into a "glass crater". It really says a lot about the society you were raised in.

The "full force of the law" has been murdering and subjugating these people for centuries in America. It took a long time but they finally realized the law is not on their side, that no matter how legally they criticize the system or how peacefully they protest against the abuse, nothing will ever change. Just because of these protests, those cops that were initially going to walk free have been charged with murder. The power is in people's hands right now and they're demanding the same justice for all victims of police brutality—and hopefully they won't stop anytime soon. America is a war-loving failed state that prioritizes profit for its elites over basic needs for 99% of the population. What did you expect was going to happen when these people had even their measly slave-wage jobs disappear during the pandemic? The jobs that still required them to be on food stamps just to survive?

You probably think black people are just a bunch of lazy crackheads that prefer living in ghettos, so I'd recommend you kickstart your basic education by reading about Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921 and Gary Webb. Then you may want to read up on Martin Luther King Jr., Malcolm X, and Nelson Mandela and all the laws they "broke".

Congratulations! You are now on your way to joining the rest of the 21st century. And if you don't like it, feel free to go join the neo-Nazis and shoot some black people.




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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 09:35 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Laffs at the retards who think this is only about cops killing black ppl... This is what happens when capitalism is left unchecked... It's only gonna get worse unless the rich ppl aren't stopped...




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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 09:38 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lol@whiskey thinking getting the perpetrator off the street would’ve ever happened when you have guys like the head of the Minneapolis police union attending Trump rallies saying shit like this. Union bosses have immense power and set the tone from the top.







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Digital Nausea
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scared? wrote:
Laffs at the retards who think this is only about cops killing black ppl... This is what happens when capitalism is left unchecked... It's only gonna get worse unless the rich ppl aren't stopped...


I thought you were one of the rich people?




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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 10:18 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


U thought wrong... I'm just non poor...




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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 10:31 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey 7 wrote:
Shoot looters on sight!

That's some disappointingly ignorant shit, right there. :(




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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 05:53 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


This is probably some good perspective for someone looking from the outside in...




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Whiskey 7 wrote:
As officialdom? Shoot looters on sight!
As society? Use the full force of the law and judicial system and hang the murdering bastard!


Police also need to answer to the rule of law, they are not above the law. In fact, they need to be held to a higher standard since they are the ones responsible for upholding the law. By your argument, we should be shooting cops on sight, especially for their actions as depicted by the links Eraser posted of police brutality - many of which are against normal peaceful protesters and even people just carrying about their normal life.

I'm not justifying looters (there are relatively small groups of violent citizens and looters compared to peaceful ones), but to pretend that looters are the bigger more worrisome issue here is just plain dumb. To believe that escalating violence in a time when that violence has already claimed innocent lives is just flat out dangerous.



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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 05-31-2020 07:52 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Just remember, 99.9999% of Americans are not out protesting or rioting...




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surgeon62 wrote:
This is probably some good perspective for someone looking from the outside in...


Yeah man, I feel this is an important video to watch.
I kind of got upset over the looting as well, but seeing it from the perspective Trevor Noah outlines here is enlightening.




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PostPosted: 06-01-2020 01:15 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
Just remember, 99.9999% of Americans are not out protesting or rioting...


There just seems to be thousands depicted on the TV involved in protest, arson and looting. Just reading
• Los Angeles declares state of emergency
• Donald Trump taken into a special secure bunker
• US cities are imposing curfews

America :tear: :tear:

@obsidian, I totally agree. Police are not above the law and should be handed increased penalty/sentence. I've yet to view links posted by Eraser of police brutality but will..

@ Transient, yes might be ignorance. Thinking on my statement, you can't shoot looters on-sight as they are likely to shoot back and then where would you be.. Martial law then civil war..

@ Shaft... I had no idea of the ingrained problems within the Police force

@ surgeon62 I will also view that video

Mr Captain Mazda. Racist, neo-Nazi! I am speechless and say you're so wrong but you believe of me what you like but understand, I too will not accept police brutality.
I would have thought the officer and others about at the centre of this would have been charged with murder and didn't know they were going to walk free, save the protests. Still looting is a step too far. What's next, open rape and murder in the street?

@ Eraser, thanks for all those links. I will view.



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PostPosted: 06-01-2020 02:07 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey 7 wrote:
Shoot on sight!


WTF??? :down: :puke:

Ignoring your disgusting perspective on the value of a human life: Stealing is in itself not punishable by death in the US. Even if the looting person was found guilty in a trial, they would not be punished in this way.

So you are advocating that the state orders their police force to possibly kill someone or even bystanders without a proper trial?

You are advocating the dismissal of basic human rights. And then you complain about being called a nazi?

Ban this idiot.




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Yeah that's pretty egregious. Shooting people for looting and rioting isn't at all acceptable.. Especially when it's occurring in a system as corrupt as the US. It's like getting upset the pot boiled over the kettle after keeping the heat up at max for far too long. There's some sketchy shit going down however like those pallets of bricks left in Houston where the protests were occuring, that's some pretty wtf shit.




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given that some of the popo are already shooting bystanders with plastic rounds for no reason I'd say letting them loose with real bullets would probably be a bad idea

also @whiskey not only is death not usually a penalty for looting outside of banana republic shitholes, but also there's this thing called due process where you decide if someone's innocent or guilty and might want to look into that




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PostPosted: 06-01-2020 06:10 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


lol Whiskey...”You can’t shoot looters cause they might shoot back!”




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Pext wrote:
Ban this idiot.


Oh fuck off. It’s Whiskey...




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PostPosted: 06-01-2020 07:09 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Whiskey 7 wrote:
Still looting is a step too far. What's next, open rape and murder in the street?


The police already openly murder people in the streets. The rapes they commit inside the police departments and jails. And it's clear you value property more than human rights which tells me everything I need to know about you.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pu ... story.html
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ma ... d-n1098676
https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local ... 60f8ba0971
https://www.politico.com/states/new-yor ... me-1159970
https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/19/us/polic ... index.html

All random links I clicked on the first page of Google results for "police raping women".

People like you are quick to scream "THEY'RE ALL THUGS AND THIEVES" when most of the protesters have been peaceful and law-abiding. Yet the same doesn't go for cops, because it's always a 'bad apple' that does something wrong because all cops are wholesome, angelic beings of pure goodness and light, unaffected and uncorrupted by the military-industrial system they're trained and paid by.

Here's the stuff your "news" won't show you: https://albertapressleader.ca/black-pro ... -kentucky/




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Κracus wrote:
Yeah that's pretty egregious. Shooting people for looting and rioting isn't at all acceptable.. Especially when it's occurring in a system as corrupt as the US. It's like getting upset the pot boiled over the kettle after keeping the heat up at max for far too long. There's some sketchy shit going down however like those pallets of bricks left in Houston where the protests were occuring, that's some pretty wtf shit.


Not to mention this stuff



Looks just like the black bloc dudes that burned a strategically-placed police cruiser in the Toronto G20 protests, which was the excuse the police here needed to cover their badges and crack people's skulls as they were whisked off to illegal detention cages.




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Captain Mazda wrote:
Whiskey 7 wrote:
Still looting is a step too far. What's next, open rape and murder in the street?


And it's clear you value property more than human rights...


How did you come to that conclusion?




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Because he's only outraged about broken windows and not this stuff: https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout ... ame=iossmf




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Oh good... the orange POTUS is calling for military deployments to stop protests even if against the wishes of states and cities. Orange toupee lectured about the rule of law as soldiers forced back peaceful protestors and media crews so that he could do a photo op at a church. This is all about to get a whole lot worse.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-pro ... -1.5593413

Footage of Washington non-violent protestors and media cameraman getting assaulted by charging riot officers.

https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/stat ... 08032?s=09

The photo-op:

https://twitter.com/bad_takes/status/12 ... 46593?s=20



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