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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 10:44 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That no one has seen them in none blurry pics should be enough proof.




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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 10:54 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:

You say they can’t visit us. What is the proof of this statement?

I’d say most civilizations fight and pollute when they are young. Evolution shapes us that way. What makes any other otherworldly civilization different? An advanced civilization would have gotten over that hump.

I completely disagree with your last statement. How does being open to the idea of aliens visiting us equal religion? If anything, it only enhances my belief that we come from nothing and return to nothing...


Your view is romantic, too much Star Trek. The dinosaurs lasted for 65m years and were still wiped out. We’re not going to make it to make it to your utopia.




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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 10:55 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Doombrain wrote:
That no one has seen them in none blurry pics should be enough proof.



Ummm I wouldn't say that either. Think about all the alien sightings that have happened, lets use Roswell for example. They say it's a weather balloon, there's no photos of that weather balloon crashed on the ground, kinda suspicious. One of the generals who was on site for the Roswell incident actually took pictures of the weather balloon a day later inside a house to show that it was just a weather balloon, but not on site.

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That same general recanted the weather balloon story on his deathbed by the way. He claimed they did actually find a craft if I recall correctly and that the weather balloon story was staged. Chances are good that there are actual photographs of whatever landed there and I doubt they're grainy. There's other government officials too that stated there's compelling photographic evidence but that it's currently being kept secret and not released to the general public. So it might not be that there isn't any good photos out there, just that they're being kept secret. Beyond that, there's also the tic tac radar images from the incident off the coast of California.




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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 10:58 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Kinda funny...




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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 11:53 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Doombrain wrote:
Your view is romantic, too much Star Trek.


We can all be thirsty for hot alien chicks with huge blue tits, it's just not gonna happen. The Roswell shit was made up and maintained to this day to give the US military an aura of secrecy and hidden knowledge against the Soviet Union. An idi...person would have to be really dumb and naive to think concrete, infallible evidence of aliens exists but only in Area 51 rofl




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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 12:01 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Innit. Looking forward to the ‘prove it’ response.




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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 12:02 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ffs Κracus




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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 12:17 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What? Expecting something different?




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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 02:57 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Looks like we've found xer0s' and Kracus' crazy bits.
Conspiracy theorists gobble up this nonsense.




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PostPosted: 12-11-2020 03:22 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Pretty sure Radiolab did a story on 'weather balloons' being bombs sent over by Japan during WW2 using the jet stream or something.

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https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/ra ... -our-shore
https://www.wnycstudios.org/podcasts/ra ... ures-fu-go




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PostPosted: 12-12-2020 07:28 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Doombrain wrote:
That no one has seen them in none blurry pics should be enough proof.


Proof we never went to the moon. Thx for making my point...




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PostPosted: 12-12-2020 07:29 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dumbrain makes Patrick Starr look like Albert Einstein... :olo: ...




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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 12-12-2020 08:11 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


OK porter :olo:




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One Man Army
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PostPosted: 12-28-2020 11:26 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


My belief system is like a scale, the probability of things being true will rise and fall based on any new information.

For aliens visiting earth I went from no, pretty much for the reasons that most of you have brought up, to maybe in the past few years based on the things that pilots and former govt guys have been saying.

Part of the reason a lot of people don't come out might be based on 'need to know'. if you're contracted to work on this stuff you only work on a very small piece of it with not much knowledge about anything else. The people who do get a glimpse of the bigger picture might think it futile to come out with it because nobody will believe them anyways and they'll be ridiculed.

There really is no definitive proof, but it's really hard to speculate the motives of something so advanced and not human. They might have a piece of information that we don't and maybe we have, or will have a bigger impact on the universe than we think.




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Etile
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PostPosted: 12-28-2020 12:23 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


the suss part of alien encounter stories is the part where the aliens make a beeline for whichever country happens to be the big swinging geopolitical dick at that moment

i can't imagine the govt of Estonia is hiding alien cadavers in a warehouse outside Talinn :alert:




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PostPosted: 12-28-2020 01:10 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, it's a good point but there could still be a number factors with that as well. Can a tiny ass govt like Estonia be bullied by a larger govt like the US if they find out about that sort of thing, and how common are alien ship crashes? Is it really a conspiracy and coverup by governments or is it the aliens decision to not be found out?

Perhaps in most circumstances of a ship crash the aliens are capable of covering it up themselves excluding rare circumstances when a local govt is able to get there first. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between where there were never any crashes or cadavers, but it still doesn't mean they don't visit. There's pretty much an excuse for everything like religion cuz nobody knows what the heck they would be capable of if they exist and it's hard to tell fact from fiction.

All I know is that the eye witness testimony from pilots and the fact that the govt appears to be more open about the idea makes me reconsider things a bit.




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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 12-28-2020 01:49 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The problem with the claim that there have been alien visits, without having anything to show for it is that it changes exactly nothing. It puts you in the exact same spot as the idea that aliens haven't visited us (yet). The difference is that the visited-by-aliens theory requires a truckload of assumptions to fully close itself up.




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Etile
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PostPosted: 12-29-2020 01:40 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


DooMer wrote:
Can a tiny ass govt like Estonia be bullied by a larger govt like the US if they find out about that sort of thing, and how common are alien ship crashes? Is it really a conspiracy and coverup by governments or is it the aliens decision to not be found out? Perhaps in most circumstances of a ship crash the aliens are capable of covering it up themselves excluding rare circumstances when a local govt is able to get there first. Maybe the truth is somewhere in between where there were never any crashes or cadavers, but it still doesn't mean they don't visit.


i wonder how much there'd be left of a body after a crash, especially when you consider the enormous speeds that would be involved. also, the top 3 places by area to crash accidentally would be:

1. the ocean
2. muh russia
3. canadialand

and anyway how would they come to crash land in the first place? what manoeuvre would they be carrying out that - if it went wrong - would lead to a crash? i mean, we land probes on other celestial bodies remotely and generally they survive intact. are the aliens drunk? is it like some kind of Ferris Bueller's Day Off type joyride? :|




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Cool #9
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PostPosted: 12-29-2020 03:47 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


They're just showing off their new Hyperstar X-10 Sigma spaceship to their buddies. You know how it goes.




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