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PostPosted: 01-30-2013 04:24 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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That's a shame to hear. I liked SH. Captured the creepyness of the first couple games to a tee I thought, bar the completely out of context zomboob nurses.

zomboob nurses were from SH2; James' repressed sexuality.
they were out of place in SH3 tho :/
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PostPosted: 01-30-2013 04:28 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


4days wrote:
skyfall - 3/10
can't say why without massive spoilers, but didn't like where they went with this at all. i get that they were worried about losing the franchise altogether, but this was an overload of randomly plundered source material.


i think the main mistake in the new bond movies is the lack of strong villains.

a superhero movie can't live on the hero alone since the plot is driven by the antagonist.

it can work extremely well in a tv show - see for example buffy - since there is much more room to focus on character development. but in a movie that has to fit into a span of 2 hours the actual plot has to be good and this plot is driven by the antagonist.

this problem can party be ignored if there is enough cast and overtime (avengers: the plot here is pretty stupid but the interactions between the heroes - and a strong villain - make the movie shine)

so bond movies - only one hero, one vilain - would be better off if more time was spent on the villain. another problem here is that bond itself is not a really interesting character; even less so after taking away the misogynism. an example with only one hero that actually works is iron man: the movie lives completely on tony stark/robert downey jr. ~ in the end the missing character of bond is the problem.
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PostPosted: 01-30-2013 05:54 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


^tl;dr: James Bond films are no good cause they are about James Bond, who is no good.
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PostPosted: 01-30-2013 06:49 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Thanks for your enlightening insight.



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PostPosted: 01-30-2013 07:58 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


DTS re-enacted all scenes with his action figurines.
Shit got real, and James ("who is no good") obviously got smashed by a giant potato.
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I'd have to agree with Pext, sometimes it's better to have a movie about the villian rather than the hero, particularly when the hero of the franchise is a little more than a muted muscle monkey with a hint of a troubled past. Take the Dark Knight for example, Christian Bale's Batman is nothing more than a scratchy voiced guy with a cool car. What makes the movie is Ledger's twistedly psychopathic Joker who rightfully has more screentime than Batman.

In contrast, in Skyfall, you don't get to meet the antagonist until halfway though the movie, and there's absolutely nothing menacing about a guy with a few racks of servers and a bad case of cavities. Are we and Bond supposed to feel threatened by his sense of impeccable timing?



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PostPosted: 01-30-2013 08:38 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


if you didn't like skyfall you probably just have bad taste



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If you did like Skyfall, you are probably incapable of putting more than two sentences together to form an opinion.



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PostPosted: 01-30-2013 11:01 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Pext wrote:
true stuff

obsidian wrote:
more true stuff

aye - i got too hung up on how clumsily material from the books was used to think about how it might've been a better movie. the villains are definitely a problem, but everything about the new bond movies feels like it's overworked and dulled as a result.

idk - all this emo-noodling and borne-aping stuff can be done far better with different characters in a different story. think the glamour and menace of bond can work really well - never been a fan of the movies, but some scenes back in the day really nailed the threat of imminent horrible violence in a luxurious setting. it wouldn't be that hard to do a modern take on that, where you build the tension up for 30 mins while the characters are introduced, then have a little bit of understated violence - then build the tension for another 50 minutes before a car chase and a lovely, bone-snapping, marrow-gouging, blood-letting finale where the baddies get well and truly fucked.

thought they were going somewhere with the noir thing from casino royale (which made it really good), but that'd been abandoned by the time they got to quantum of solace :(

seven swords - 6/10
kung fu/novelty weapons action from the 'once upon a time in china' guy.
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Silent Hill Revelation = 2/10 - It's too bad this movie was made as the first one was a respectable "game-to-movie" attempt. There's nowhere to go with this franchise as a movie project and the second movie proved it, so please stop making them.

Killing Them Softly = 8/10 - Great performances with one hell of an ending rant from Brad Pitt. Even though most of them were horrible bastards, the film was full of great characters.

Wreck It Ralph = 6/10 - Meh...sokay I guess. Terrific production design with some laughs. I like it when animated films focus more on the comedy than the "kid's animated movie" approach, but they focused too much on making this one a "kid's animated movie".
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PostPosted: 02-09-2013 07:42 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah, but was it really that much worse than the original?
I enjoyed the slomo bullet through the cheek bit :up:
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PostPosted: 02-09-2013 10:51 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I loved Dredd. Very Verhoven-esque



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feedback wrote:
I loved Dredd. Very Verhoven-esque

Fuck Verhoven, watch Verhoeven...
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Fuck Verhoven, watch Verhoeven...

[Das Schreckliche Mädchen]

hah. i have that on dvd... part of a box set with Die Weiße Rose and Mutters Courage (the last of which I haven't gotten around to watching). good stuff.
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PostPosted: 02-09-2013 08:13 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


how fucking good is that movie?
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i still cringe a little about the age difference, and it's certainly a weird movie anyway, but it really is a brilliant film.
damned if this isn't reminding me of how many unwatched DVDs I have lying around.

oh, and last i checked Das Schreckliche Mädchen was available streaming on netflix.... here, at least.
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PostPosted: 02-09-2013 11:31 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Memphis wrote:
I done watched Dredd :disgust:


Now be honest, you still would ?



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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
feedback wrote:
I loved Dredd. Very Verhoven-esque

Fuck Verhoven, watch Verhoeven...


also, it's "Verhoeven".
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PostPosted: 02-10-2013 10:17 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Here I was thinking they were talking about Paul Verhoeven.
While they were being all pretentious over some kraut cunt.
Go figure.
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Paul and Michael Verhoeven... one Dutch, one German and born less than a week apart. One makes hollywood cult favorites like Robocop and Starship Troopers, the other makes politically aware films. One won a Razzie for Showgirls, the other was nominated for an Oscar.
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Best part is, Michael's father's name was Paul Verhoeven, who was also a director.
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menkent wrote:
Paul and Michael Verhoeven... one Dutch, one German and born less than a week apart. One makes hollywood cult favorites like Robocop and Starship Troopers, the other makes politically aware films. One won a Razzie for Showgirls, the other was nominated for an Oscar.

The Razzie one was nominated 9 times for an Oscar. just fyi.
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yeah, i looked at wikipedia and between such getting visual effects nods for classics like Hollow Man and Total Recall he did put out a couple good movies. but Showgirls. ouch.
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Kontiki 7/10



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Looper 3/10

Friend of mine was telling me how he really liked it, but having seen it i have to disagree.

It has to be one of the most tired & uninspired tales of timetravelling i ever saw. What dull and uninteresting dialogues, what a terrible plot full of holes, such pathetic cinematography (it appears they ran out of budget halfway and decided to just shoot the last half on a deserted farm in bumfuck Kentucky). The whole thing is rife with shots that are too long and drawn out, which slows everything waaay the fuck down for no reason at all, the lead actor is supremely unlikable and does his very best not to act at all, Bruce Willis just phones this thing in from what seems like the other side of the country... and i wanted to slap both the child actor and the redhead. Jesus, what a horrible mess this was.

Some of the creative decisions were inexplicabe too: what was with the shotgun / sixshooter cowboy getup of the enforcers? Are we being asked to believe Obama's gun policy worked so well only the least reliable guns are still allowed? Or are the enforcers fashion concious dudes who are just into late 19th century firearms? Doesn't that make them really ineffective morons? Bruce Willis had a machine gun, why didn't they? And did they really have to dress in all black and look like Neo on a budget? Etc.

Watch this only if you're stoned out of your mind to the point where you're nearly incapable of speech, it might seem like a reasonable waste of your time then.



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fucking hollywood

they're remaking Evil Dead

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it looks pretty gruesome though



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Can't wait for the remake of Citizen Kane.
Spoiler alert; Rosebud is tha swagmeister for real yo.
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PostPosted: 02-20-2013 12:19 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


feedback wrote:
it looks pretty gruesome though


they all look like those twilight kids :puke:



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PostPosted: 02-23-2013 11:12 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


A Good Day to Die Hard

mmm tis ok. the father/son stuff feels very tacked on and just gets away of the pacing. also, mcclane's motivation is not entirely clear nor believable.
points for dat helicopter scene.
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Red Dawn = :olo:

I have no doubt xer0s will love it almost as much as he loved Zero Dark Thirty (but won't admit on this forum). There is no single word for the level of stupidity this POS movie aspires to and no amount of weed will make it better.
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I bet he thinks Argo was based on a true story too.
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SoM wrote:
fucking hollywood

they're remaking Evil Dead

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Sam Raimi is all over it so hoping it will be good.



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Don't see how Raimi is "all over this".
Just like Bruce Campbell he's a producer, meaning: if this shit somehow turns out to be profitable, they'll take their share.
Nothing else. No creative input. Just safely laying back, and raking it in.
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