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dONKEY The Afflicted Joined: 14 Oct 2001 Posts: 581	Posted: 06-26-2015 07:34 PM                  So it seems these days I can't map without hitting a limit of some sort. My level is very detailed. I've got a lot of patches, models and func groups with silly hi res lightmaps . I intend at some point to use some external lightmaps, but I've already hit this limit .My question for idtech experts is how can I get around it? I thought about making my patch structures models..but do you think I will still hit the memory limit? Would lowering the lightmap scale and using external lightmaps work? Would just compiling with lomem be the answer. I'm in no rush, but I didn't want to spend two weeks heading in one direction, only to hit a wall again .
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Hipshot This is not Æon! Joined: 20 Jan 2002 Posts: 2222	Posted: 06-27-2015 02:15 AM                  Turn your patches into models. Use vertex light on most of them, like all your railing that is outside for example. I guess those are patches? _________________ Q3Map2 2516 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map_2.5.16_win32_x86.zip Q3Map2 FS_20g -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map2_fs_20g.rar GtkRadiant 140 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/GtkRadiantSetup-1.4.0-Q3RTCWET.exe
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KittenIgnition Insane Quaker Joined: 06 Nov 2011 Posts: 250	Posted: 06-27-2015 11:51 AM                  Send me the map and I can fix it
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CZghost The hell good boy Joined: 22 Jun 2011 Posts: 1922	Posted: 06-28-2015 03:10 AM                    Kitten lol _________________ [ Websites | Facebook | Twitter | YouTube | Instagram ] “When you feel the worst, turn to the sun and all the shadows will fall behind you.” - John Lennon
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Theftbot Theftbot Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Posts: 483	Posted: 06-28-2015 12:09 PM                  Sounds like a Italian auto Mechanic.
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AndyW The Afflicted Joined: 11 Mar 2015 Posts: 848	Posted: 07-16-2015 12:14 AM                  KittenIgnition wrote: Send me the map and I can fix it ..soo Good! Reminds me on the Q3Map2Build Option: -MakeMyMapNotSuck Hehe _________________ Die Vitamine sind in der Dose gefangen!!!
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dONKEY The Afflicted Joined: 14 Oct 2001 Posts: 581	Posted: 07-16-2015 07:42 PM                  The limitations of the old engine are quite irritating at times. I can compile with lomem AND patchshadows, assuming I've got two days to wait for lighting to finish, then to discover I've a misaligned texture somewhere. I did a quick test with the railings modeled, only to discover the smoothing is broken. I guess I need add a shader script for the texture. At least then maybe I can UVWmap the texture more correctly. I think I need to go back through the entire level and turn all of my patch geometry into models. I've got quite bad LOD tearing in a few places, and I can't fix it with patchmeta because that breaks q3map2 as well. Models it is then....this project takes longer and longer and longer.
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Hipshot This is not Æon! Joined: 20 Jan 2002 Posts: 2222	Posted: 07-17-2015 01:16 AM                  I like those limitations, I like to work with that, you can make it look pretty good anyway. I have over the years decreased my compile times even if the levels got better looking with more details, not only because I have bought new hardware, but also because I've learn to optimize both in the compile and build stage. The compile times on rustgrad, final compile was ~1700 sec, that is with 100 (stops at 8) bounces. That level has lightmaps on a lot of things, from trees to ivy, railway tracks etc. The idea is to play around with mixed vertex light and lightmaps and to use the _cs and _rs entries well. _________________ Q3Map2 2516 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map_2.5.16_win32_x86.zip Q3Map2 FS_20g -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/q3map2_fs_20g.rar GtkRadiant 140 -> http://www.zfight.com/misc/files/q3/GtkRadiantSetup-1.4.0-Q3RTCWET.exe
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dONKEY The Afflicted Joined: 14 Oct 2001 Posts: 581	Posted: 07-17-2015 03:07 AM                  Yep yep, you are right . I've not thought enough about optimizing lighting . I've thought for too long that lighting was serendipitous . I optimize vis, aas creation, but I've not thought enough about lighting.
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Bacon visual prowess Joined: 30 Jul 2004 Posts: 1254	Posted: 07-17-2015 11:55 AM                  dONKEY wrote: Models it is then.... There's only one problem with using models, entity lights don't properly light up models, with or without the forcemeta flag on (from my experience anyways, a lot of maps I have are made completely out of models) _________________ CAPSLOCK IS ON
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dONKEY The Afflicted Joined: 14 Oct 2001 Posts: 581	Posted: 09-09-2015 11:00 PM                  I finally got some time to look at this map again. Thanks for input Hipshot. Func_group ing patches and switch shadows on and off fixed my issues, and optimized the light compile . I think I may actually be able to release this soon.
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