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people who say 'ftw' should be hanged

but on a serious note... ya gotta love the ending.. i mean wtf? way to leave the story open ended. only to not release the follow up... makin the whole story null and void.. woop woop where's my gun?

They're trapped Jim. Their minds haven't evolved beyond Quake 3. They can't crouch slide. They play DM6 and ztn almost exclusively, and fret and scream if they can't have 125 fps (with no v-synch to prevent texture tearing). It's a sad state, caused by growing up in the golden era that was Quake3.

On the other hand: this IS quake3world. We're in their lair. :icon31:

So, people come here to bitch about a game they MIGHT play if it was more like a game they USED to play? Fascinating... Or maybe just weird. Yep.. Mostly weird. :icon34:

about 5 people registered here still play quake3, so there goes your theory

i think q4 is much more like q3 now in 1.3 then it was ootb. i would like to sync my refresh and framerate to something higher than 60 though, say even just 85. or 75!

prince1000 wrote:

i think q4 is much more like q3 now in 1.3 then it was ootb. i would like to sync my refresh and framerate to something higher than 60 though, say even just 85. or 75!

Yes but since the engine itself is designed around 60fps raising it wouldn't help any and would probably cause oddities or instability.

Tormentius wrote:

prince1000 wrote:

i think q4 is much more like q3 now in 1.3 then it was ootb. i would like to sync my refresh and framerate to something higher than 60 though, say even just 85. or 75!

Yes but since the engine itself is designed around 60fps raising it wouldn't help any and would probably cause oddities or instability.

How many times have we all been over this? : D

Even people who play Counterstrike have heard about this since we've said it so much. >: ]

major flaw to not have higher framerates in mind when creating the q4 engine then imo. i guess the logic is everyone uses lcd anyway and lower fps means more people can "play" the game with older hardware. just would like to have had the option.

has there been an official response about why the engine revolves around 60fps?

MKJ wrote:

people who say 'ftw' should be hanged

i cant stare at a monitor refreshing at 60hz for more than 30 minutes. i run my desktop at 85hz.

http://files.filefront.com/GtkRadiant_14_and_15_for_Mac/;3863061;;/fileinfo.html

"Map editor for games that use the Quake 3 engine (Doom3 included, see list)"

I didnt know Doom 3 used the Q3 engine...i was also under the impression that Quake 4 used the Doom 3 engine. does that mean Quake 4 uses the Quake 3 engine? or is this site just wrong?

Author:	stocktroll [ 09-25-2006 03:27 PM ]
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lol?

Author:	jagwah [ 09-26-2006 02:35 PM ]
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Quote: lol? Leaves Others Languishing? Yes, Yes, I agree, it does, excellent game...

Author:	B3AST [ 09-26-2006 03:03 PM ]
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jagwah wrote: excellent game... Yes. I agree.

Author:	MKJ [ 09-27-2006 03:06 AM ]
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whats the story??..

Author:	B3AST [ 09-27-2006 04:15 AM ]
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I think the story is that stocktroll knows how to abbreviate. That's about it.

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Author:	GODLIKE [ 09-28-2006 03:44 PM ]
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jagwah ftw.

Author:	MKJ [ 09-29-2006 05:52 AM ]
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MKJ wrote: people who say 'ftw' should be hanged

Author:	+JuggerNaut+ [ 09-29-2006 06:25 AM ]
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bore-fest.

Author:	fKd [ 09-29-2006 02:29 PM ]
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the story of q4 is that you have been teleported from a gay planet. (there are no women left on earth) and you have to go and steal the oil from the strogg home planet. then, and only then make love to the stroggafied chicks to repopulate earth. its messy.. but someones gotta do it so really its a planetary rape story! but on a serious note... ya gotta love the ending.. i mean wtf? way to leave the story open ended. only to not release the follow up... makin the whole story null and void.. woop woop where's my gun?

Author:	_borsdy [ 10-02-2006 07:38 PM ]
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fKd wrote: but on a serious note... ya gotta love the ending.. i mean wtf? way to leave the story open ended. only to not release the follow up... makin the whole story null and void.. woop woop where's my gun? Yeah you probably know about the expansion that got canned, gee I wonder why huh? What a fucking waste of 60 Canuck bucks.

Author:	Ganemi [ 10-05-2006 04:41 PM ]
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A waste of waste is not really waste.

Author:	GODLIKE [ 10-12-2006 10:34 PM ]
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They're trapped Jim. Their minds haven't evolved beyond Quake 3. They can't crouch slide. They play DM6 and ztn almost exclusively, and fret and scream if they can't have 125 fps (with no v-synch to prevent texture tearing). It's a sad state, caused by growing up in the golden era that was Quake3. On the other hand: this IS quake3world. We're in their lair.

Author:	MKJ [ 10-13-2006 01:34 AM ]
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about 5 people registered here still play quake3, so there goes your theory

Author:	GODLIKE [ 10-13-2006 06:55 AM ]
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So, people come here to bitch about a game they MIGHT play if it was more like a game they USED to play? Fascinating... Or maybe just weird. Yep.. Mostly weird.

Author:	gravedigga [ 09-30-2006 03:42 PM ]
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Author:	prince1000 [ 10-14-2006 09:38 AM ]
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whoa ok. im not talking about fps dependent physics at all, or movement or any of that jazz. im talking about simply the visual aspect of syncing to higher framerates. i cant stare at a monitor refreshing at 60hz for more than 30 minutes. i run my desktop at 85hz. i dont think it was too much to ask to create an engine that's based on most users visual desktop experience. edit: which goes back to my assumption on the logic behind 60fps. people using crt's are probably considered to be the minority. q4 is all about buying new product to play it.

Author:	Tormentius [ 10-14-2006 10:27 AM ]
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Try it with a decent vid card that can stay at 60fps and v-sync enabled for an hour and you'll see what I meant .

Author:	D'Artagnan [ 10-20-2006 12:59 PM ]
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About that game Q4, is it dead ???

Author:	prince1000 [ 10-13-2006 07:32 AM ]
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GODLIKE wrote: They're trapped Jim. Their minds haven't evolved beyond Quake 3. They can't crouch slide. They play DM6 and ztn almost exclusively, and fret and scream if they can't have 125 fps (with no v-synch to prevent texture tearing). It's a sad state, caused by growing up in the golden era that was Quake3. On the other hand: this IS quake3world. We're in their lair. i would play q4 if i could bring myself to upgrade. problem is i dont know if i would like q4 as much as i still enjoy playing a 7 year old game. q4 def has improved with the latest patch. i almost upgraded a month ago but just couldn't pull the trigger.

Author:	prince1000 [ 10-13-2006 07:33 AM ]
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GODLIKE wrote: So, people come here to bitch about a game they MIGHT play if it was more like a game they USED to play? Fascinating... Or maybe just weird. Yep.. Mostly weird. i think q4 is much more like q3 now in 1.3 then it was ootb. i would like to sync my refresh and framerate to something higher than 60 though, say even just 85. or 75!

Author:	prince1000 [ 10-13-2006 07:34 AM ]
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MKJ wrote: about 5 people registered here still play quake3, so there goes your theory this place hasnt been at all about q3 in years.

Author:	Tormentius [ 10-13-2006 09:22 AM ]
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prince1000 wrote: i think q4 is much more like q3 now in 1.3 then it was ootb. i would like to sync my refresh and framerate to something higher than 60 though, say even just 85. or 75! Yes but since the engine itself is designed around 60fps raising it wouldn't help any and would probably cause oddities or instability.

Author:	Ganemi [ 10-13-2006 09:37 AM ]
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Tormentius wrote: prince1000 wrote: i think q4 is much more like q3 now in 1.3 then it was ootb. i would like to sync my refresh and framerate to something higher than 60 though, say even just 85. or 75! Yes but since the engine itself is designed around 60fps raising it wouldn't help any and would probably cause oddities or instability. How many times have we all been over this? : D Even people who play Counterstrike have heard about this since we've said it so much. >: ]

Author:	fKd [ 10-13-2006 08:48 PM ]
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GODLIKE wrote: They're trapped Jim. Their minds haven't evolved beyond Quake 3. They can't crouch slide. They play DM6 and ztn almost exclusively, and fret and scream if they can't have 125 fps (with no v-synch to prevent texture tearing). It's a sad state, caused by growing up in the golden era that was Quake3. On the other hand: this IS quake3world. We're in their lair. i dont give a shit about those things.. i play a bit of q3.. but im more into sp games... but it really was a lack luster game... lot like unreal2.. lol fps sp games which are good these days are few and far between.. but so far.. i kinda like pray... starting to get a bit repetitive tho...

Author:	prince1000 [ 10-14-2006 09:13 AM ]
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Ganemi wrote: Tormentius wrote: prince1000 wrote: i think q4 is much more like q3 now in 1.3 then it was ootb. i would like to sync my refresh and framerate to something higher than 60 though, say even just 85. or 75! Yes but since the engine itself is designed around 60fps raising it wouldn't help any and would probably cause oddities or instability. How many times have we all been over this? : D Even people who play Counterstrike have heard about this since we've said it so much. >: ] major flaw to not have higher framerates in mind when creating the q4 engine then imo. i guess the logic is everyone uses lcd anyway and lower fps means more people can "play" the game with older hardware. just would like to have had the option. has there been an official response about why the engine revolves around 60fps?

Author:	Tormentius [ 10-14-2006 09:31 AM ]
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prince1000 wrote: major flaw to not have higher framerates in mind when creating the q4 engine then imo. i guess the logic is everyone uses lcd anyway and lower fps means more people can "play" the game with older hardware. just would like to have had the option. has there been an official response about why the engine revolves around 60fps? Its not a flaw to have the engine capped when it was designed that way. You're basing your opinion on the fact there was a glitch in the q3 engine which allowed faster movement and longer jumps at 125fps. Faster movement and more movement options (eg. crouch sliding and ramp jumping) are available in Q4 at 60fps. With a decent system, v-sync enabled, and a solid 60fps it looks better and smoother than Q3 ever did IMO.

Author:	CitizenKane [ 10-14-2006 12:10 PM ]
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MKJ wrote: MKJ wrote: people who say 'ftw' should be hanged what does 'ftw' stand for?

Author:	Scourge [ 10-14-2006 12:14 PM ]
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for the win and also fuck the world.

Author:	hemostick [ 10-20-2006 01:40 PM ]
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Quote: i cant stare at a monitor refreshing at 60hz for more than 30 minutes. i run my desktop at 85hz. q4base has a fucked r_displayrefresh, granted. That doesn't mean you can't force proper refresh rates with something like refreshlock, maybe powerstrip. Or even straight from the graphics card driver with a bit of fiddling (works with nvidia, don't know about ati) /me goes back to messing around in q4 with 120hz

Author:	CitizenKane [ 10-20-2006 02:19 PM ]
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http://files.filefront.com/GtkRadiant_14_and_15_for_Mac/;3863061;;/fileinfo.html "Map editor for games that use the Quake 3 engine (Doom3 included, see list)" I didnt know Doom 3 used the Q3 engine...i was also under the impression that Quake 4 used the Doom 3 engine. does that mean Quake 4 uses the Quake 3 engine? or is this site just wrong?

Author:	DooMer [ 10-20-2006 02:39 PM ]
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d3 engine is its own thing, gtkradiant just supports both.

Author:	stocktroll [ 10-25-2006 06:52 AM ]
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CitizenKane wrote: http://files.filefront.com/GtkRadiant_14_and_15_for_Mac/;3863061;;/fileinfo.html "Map editor for games that use the Quake 3 engine (Doom3 included, see list)" I didnt know Doom 3 used the Q3 engine...i was also under the impression that Quake 4 used the Doom 3 engine. does that mean Quake 4 uses the Quake 3 engine? or is this site just wrong? q4 engine is basically q3 engine with darker shadows.... unless ur a moron

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