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I think it’s pretty obvious where Gramps stands on this issue. He just doesn’t want to say it. Instead, he’d rather try to fool us into reading some bullshit disguised as factual news...
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Doombrain wrote:Or you could just look at the distilled data...

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... 7b48e9ecf6
That's my point, it's tough to figure out what's accurate. Even on that site, confirmed cases for China is 84k... like give me a break, I don't buy that bullshit. You're telling me the country where the outbreak began with a population in the billions has had less infections than a country with 40 million people (Canada). The sources of information are heavily biased no matter which side is doing the reporting.
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Κracus wrote:
That's my point, it's tough to figure out what's accurate. Even on that site, confirmed cases for China is 84k... like give me a break, I don't buy that bullshit. You're telling me the country where the outbreak began with a population in the billions has had less infections than a country with 40 million people (Canada). The sources of information are heavily biased no matter which side is doing the reporting.
Not to mention, that site is always at least a day behind the other site Whiskey links. Which by the way shows the daily deaths in US yesterday at 285 which is considerably less than it was just a couple of weeks ago at around 1500 a day. It's been dropping quite a bit in the last few days. Whether it stays that way will show in the next couple of weeks. The increase in positive results could also be enhanced by the increased testing that has been happening in addition to opening back up/protests/etc. Too early to tell at this point.
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Κracus wrote:
Doombrain wrote:Or you could just look at the distilled data...

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboar ... 7b48e9ecf6
That's my point, it's tough to figure out what's accurate. Even on that site, confirmed cases for China is 84k... like give me a break, I don't buy that bullshit. You're telling me the country where the outbreak began with a population in the billions has had less infections than a country with 40 million people (Canada). The sources of information are heavily biased no matter which side is doing the reporting.
I have to agree with this; there is no way that Chyna only has that many cases.
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I'm preparing to loose the job I'm doing probably around November, 1st.
Tourism hasn't come up although possible for more than a month. We've had disastrous numbers.
If the numbers keep on like this we will make 1 miliion in deficit by the end of this year.
Game over, unless the summer vacations can rescue us. But I really doubt it.

40+, will have to look for some alternative. Even going into an apprenticeship is a possibility.

I regard it as a chance instead of a catastrophe.
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Reported cases Worldwide

23 June 9,329,404

27 June 9,906,585

29 June 10,395,643

Total deaths
• World 507,416
• USA 128,767
• Brazil 58,314

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Ferrao10 wrote:........... an apprenticeship is a possibility....
That is positive thinking :up:
If I were younger and looking for a vocation/career change, an apprenticeship would be something I'd look at. Just a thought, what about a male hair dresser/barber apprenticeship ? People will always need them and cash in lieu of electronic payment might be helpful tax wise :D Eventually your own small business might be appealing.
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Whiskey 7 wrote:Just a thought, what about a male hair dresser/barber
Fuck off.

Edit: they make like 9€/hour here. No, definitely not. I have been working as an audio/video/lighting- technician for the last 20 years without apprenticeship. That's what I'm thinking about.
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Eraser wrote:Gramps links to a site where the very first thing you see is this:

"Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov."

:olo:
I especially love the hastily-Photoshopped graphs. :olo:
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Eraser wrote:Gramps links to a site where the very first thing you see is this:

"Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov."

:olo:
What part of the article are you having problems with? Was it the title? Was it all the charts and graphs? Maybe it was the 50+ sources referenced at the end? Do you not believe the content of the article? If not. What do you believe?

Do you believe when the WHO says there is no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission?
https://www.who.int/csr/don/12-january- ... -china/en/

Do you believe when the WHO says Covid-19 is not a global emergency?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/heal ... gency.html

Do you believe when the US Surgeon General and CDC say masks do not prevent the spread of Covid-19?
https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/sta ... 00304.html

Or do you believe when the CDC says masks do prevent the spread of Covid-19?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... dance.html

Do you believe when the CDC says Covid-19 spreads easily on surfaces?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/c ... story.html

Or do you believe when the CDC says Covid-19 doesn’t spread easily on surfaces?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... te-states/

Do you believe when the WHO says asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 is rare?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/c ... index.html

Or do you believe when the WHO says asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 is not rare?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/who-scr ... known.html

Do you believe the CDC mixed viral and antibody testing?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/health/c ... index.html

Or do you need a likely biased fact checker to tell you what to believe/partially believe?
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Don't worry Gwamps it will all be over for you soon.
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Yeah, shield your eyes from all of the deaths.
How did people die in Italy? So many in such a short time?
The normal flue? Yeah, right. First time in like, ever.

Answer just that one question.
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Tainted pasta
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Ferrao10 wrote:Yeah, shield your eyes from all of the deaths.
How did people die in Italy? So many in such a short time?
The normal flue? Yeah, right. First time in like, ever.

Answer just that one question.
Why don't you read the article? There's a quite reasonable explanation.

BTW, I'm not saying the virus isn't real. It's very real.
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HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Don't worry Gwamps it will all be over for you soon.
Yup IM-SuKKNNuTZ, as soon as the election is over we'll be on to something else.
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I don't need to read your "article" really.
I just have to look at how lockdowns are lifted and COVID-19 spreads and what experts all around the world tell their leaders to do.
Trump has his own vision. Good luck following it.

What do you mean by
"as soon as the election is over we'll be on to something else" ?
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Yeah don't bother reading, you might suffer from exposure to an alternate source of information and that'd be terrible.

What did you not understand about that sentence?
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alternate source of information :olo:

Here's some alternate "facts".

https://www.gzeromedia.com/the-graphic- ... s-eu-vs-us
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What, you mean you don't trust a graph edited in the Snipping tool from a "Covid Calculator" that lets you play around with your own numbers???
Maybe you just need an open mind to alternate sources of information..

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:tard: :clownboat:
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Doombrain wrote:alternate source of information :olo:

Here's some alternate "facts".

https://www.gzeromedia.com/the-graphic- ... s-eu-vs-us

Good thing is the US will be a great baseline to see if your country is doing well in terms of it's covid response. Thanks Trump!
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YourGrandpa wrote:
Eraser wrote:Gramps links to a site where the very first thing you see is this:

"Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov."

:olo:
What part of the article are you having problems with? Was it the title? Was it all the charts and graphs? Maybe it was the 50+ sources referenced at the end? Do you not believe the content of the article? If not. What do you believe?

Do you believe when the WHO says there is no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission?
https://www.who.int/csr/don/12-january- ... -china/en/

Do you believe when the WHO says Covid-19 is not a global emergency?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/heal ... gency.html

Do you believe when the US Surgeon General and CDC say masks do not prevent the spread of Covid-19?
https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/sta ... 00304.html

Or do you believe when the CDC says masks do prevent the spread of Covid-19?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... dance.html

Do you believe when the CDC says Covid-19 spreads easily on surfaces?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/c ... story.html

Or do you believe when the CDC says Covid-19 doesn’t spread easily on surfaces?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... te-states/

Do you believe when the WHO says asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 is rare?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/c ... index.html

Or do you believe when the WHO says asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 is not rare?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/who-scr ... known.html

Do you believe the CDC mixed viral and antibody testing?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/health/c ... index.html

Or do you need a likely biased fact checker to tell you what to believe/partially believe?
This dumb motherfucker doesn’t know how science works. The experts/scientists gather current data and draw conclusions by that set of data. They're then able to give their best guidance using the most current data. Once new data comes in, different conclusions can and will be made. They’ll then have to adjust their guidance to suit the new data. This is a flowing crisis. Not some decades long pandemic like HIV where you can give concrete advice.

I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain this to a 50 year old man. But he’ll never see it, cause he blocks my posts. It’s an honor really. Gotten to...:olo:
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Blocking posts is a sure sign of being a bad person who can't deal with reality... Lol...
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Or he's just a blockhead :olo:
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lol
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Doombrain wrote:alternate source of information :olo:

Here's some alternate "facts".

https://www.gzeromedia.com/the-graphic- ... s-eu-vs-us
Did you see this?

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Source https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/
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