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Shambolic
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PostPosted: 05-12-2017 02:33 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


seremtan wrote:
worse than ISIS? they're on the internet

as for emptying the words "harass" and "terrorise" of any serious meaning - i'm not even gonna go there :|


Yeah, for someone who's supposed to be intelligent, Cory Doctorow can be stupidly hyperbolic.
Personally, I think the dude's reputation is based mostly on self-promotion, and he can be a snippy little bitch. But he gets props from lots of people I do have time for. Plus the Guardian keep letting him write articles about DRM and copyright, which to be fair is a subject where he does have a lot of interesting things to say.




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Shambolic
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PostPosted: 05-12-2017 03:28 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Dude, you need to stay the fuck off of Reddit and 4chan. You've gone native.




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Memphis have i told you lately how much i marvel and appreciate your talent of

higher-level-of -awareness

it is awesome <3



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plained wrote:
puffincatpoo understands nothing!

his vicious nature is what makes him so easy to use as a low goon!

i mean golly he thinks if he says lies enough they become true!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIdc0NGumVc




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PostPosted: 05-12-2017 07:47 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
[tweet]

Chilling...



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Etile
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PostPosted: 05-13-2017 01:57 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:


seremtan wrote:
worth mentioning though that Plato was not a fan of democracy

also worth mentioning he thought the people should be ruled by an 'enlightened' elite. sound familiar?




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Etile
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PostPosted: 05-13-2017 01:58 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIdc0NGumVc


defo the inspiration for Thurston Moore




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Canadian Shaft
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seremtan wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:


seremtan wrote:
worth mentioning though that Plato was not a fan of democracy

also worth mentioning he thought the people should be ruled by an 'enlightened' elite. sound familiar?

Actually he thought people should be ruled by a philosopher king whose chief qualities would be wisdom and benevolence and would be someone who lived a modest life.




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Etile
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PostPosted: 05-13-2017 05:11 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


correct. i was extrapolating somewhat. and plato is using his claim about tyrants arising from democracy to discredit democracy as an idea, not to defend it against a potential threat

not sure lawrence krauss was alert to that




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PostPosted: 05-13-2017 07:25 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Etile
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PostPosted: 05-13-2017 09:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Memphis wrote:
Stephan Molyneux


fucking lol, another youtube clown. why am i not surprised




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Truffle Shuffle
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PostPosted: 05-15-2017 11:20 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


To be fair he did believe that a philosopher king would be guided by truth rather than through greed.

Not a bad shout tbh, in a world where monarchies are the norm. Could lead to the whole 'for greater good' scenario though.



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PostPosted: 05-15-2017 11:35 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Well it's gained through knowledge and interpretation, there can be faults with both.



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PostPosted: 05-15-2017 07:35 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


https://thinkprogress.org/trump-reporte ... 6e62c934bd
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On Monday, the Washington Post dropped some leaked details of Drumpf’s discussion with Sergei and Sergey. Citing “current and former U.S. officials,” the Post said that Drumpf had divulged “highly classified information” to the two Russian officials, and thereby “jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.”

One source told the Post that Drumpf had “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2 ... -west-wing
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Communications staff and senior staffers at the White House were literally “hiding in offices,” according to a senior Drumpf aide, as a gaggle of White House press stormed White House hallways just after the Washington Post story broke on Monday evening.


LOL what an idiot.



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PostPosted: 05-15-2017 08:07 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


reads mcdoonals menu

analyzes mcdoonals menu

memorizes mcdoonals menu

eats everything on mcdoonals menu

takes mcdoonals menu seriosly




:idea: now i know everything about food!


:olo:



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Truffle Shuffle
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PostPosted: 05-15-2017 08:11 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What media sources do you use plained ?, or do you just not believe anything bad said about Trump ?



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Aneurysm
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PostPosted: 05-15-2017 09:47 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


He has all the best sources, sources you've never heard of. Tremendous sources. Hes only here to ridicule with faux superiority though, don't expect actual substance. There is a reason 95% of the remaining members have him blocked.




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Kempston Joy
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PostPosted: 05-15-2017 10:32 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Guys a complete idiot, good riddance to him.




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PostPosted: 05-16-2017 12:56 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Melissa McCarthy as Sean Spicer again :D




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Trainee
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PostPosted: 05-16-2017 03:47 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


There are people who just cannot hear anything bad about this Donald Trump Duck




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plained
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PostPosted: 05-16-2017 04:26 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


it is as if yall anti-frumps just cant read or reason or just dumb or if it just standed issue strawman bs.

like ive said many times, i dont give a crap about trump, he isnt my buddy, dont care.



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Insane Quaker
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Aneurysm
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PostPosted: 05-16-2017 05:55 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


cucked by anonymous sources, again :|




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Truffle Shuffle
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PostPosted: 05-16-2017 06:56 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Memphis wrote:
losCHUNK wrote:
What media sources do you use plained ?, or do you just not believe anything bad said about Trump ?


the source of the story itself is anonymous. again.

so ye guis, surey this'll be the end of drumpf ('_')


Just like everything on Wikipedia, the Snowden leaks at 1st were completely anonymous too and judging by that tweet ^ this has just been confirmed. When Hillary's foundation was receiving funds from the Saudi's years before the election, a foundation she was no longer active with, Trump supporters used that loose claim to roar foreign interference with the election but when Trumps foundation also misappropriated funds, and later found out that he was to gain a stake in a Russian government oil industry during the election, Trump supporters didn't batter an eyelid.

The investigation into the source of Russias hacking was also later confirmed by Trump as likely.



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PostPosted: 05-16-2017 07:22 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


See

Keep in mind this little secret revealing of classified information was previously denied by the Trump administration and rejected by all his supporters.



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losCHUNK wrote:
See

Keep in mind this little secret revealing of classified information was previously denied by the Trump administration and rejected by all his supporters.


Literally hours before his tweet




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Digital Nausea
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I'm beginning to wonder what Trump will have to do before "enough is enough."

Murder someone? Touch children?




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Insane Quaker
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This whole NYT article is incredible, but the last three paragraphs.... OH EM GEE

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/w ... .html?_r=1

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There is a fear among some of Mr. Trump’s senior advisers about leaving him alone in meetings with foreign leaders out of concern he might speak out of turn. General McMaster, in particular, has tried to insert caveats or gentle corrections into conversations when he believes the president is straying off topic or onto boggy diplomatic ground.

This has, at times, chafed the president, according to two officials with knowledge of the situation. Mr. Trump, who still openly laments having to dismiss his first national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, has groused that General McMaster talks too much in meetings, and the president has referred to him as “a pain,” according to one of the officials.

In private, three administration officials conceded that they could not publicly articulate their most compelling — and honest — defense of the president: that Mr. Trump, a hasty and indifferent reader of printed briefing materials, simply did not possess the interest or knowledge of the granular details of intelligence gathering to leak specific sources and methods of intelligence gathering that would do harm to United States allies.


The President has dementia, or at least that's the most generous interpretation.




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PostPosted: 05-16-2017 04:32 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Roger Stone is already laying the groundwork for an Alzheimer's defense.



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PostPosted: 05-17-2017 07:50 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


xer0s wrote:
I'm beginning to wonder what Trump will have to do before "enough is enough."

Murder someone? Touch children?


Sack the head of the FBI?




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PostPosted: 05-17-2017 09:52 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


https://twitter.com/i/videos/tweet/864631567972540417

This is beyond disgusting. Foreign goons are literally attacking protesters on american soil with not a single word from the white house. I'm not even American and seeing that shit makes my blood boil. I honestly wish the mob had overpowered the cops and the turkish bodyguards and beat them to a pulp. Not the cops, the guards.




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PostPosted: 05-17-2017 10:03 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That was the most well dressed ass kicking I've seen in a while.



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PostPosted: 05-17-2017 10:16 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


A goon in a suit is still a goon.




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