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PostPosted: 08-04-2020 11:31 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote





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Risen From The Ashes
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PostPosted: 08-04-2020 11:43 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You seen the video right next to it?! Unmute

https://www.reddit.tube/video/105cd0a08 ... ign=zone_4




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PostPosted: 08-04-2020 11:47 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


better shot:

https://tuckbot.tv/#/watch/i3lzc3

Why would that kind of material be held in civilian polulations. Jesus Christ.



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PostPosted: 08-04-2020 11:51 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


That reddit video makes it seem like a fireworks factory, or maybe that was munitions? It definitely seemed less catastrophic than the videos from afar. At any rate, crazy shit. :(

edit: Holy Christ, that last video is insane, seeing the pieces of the buildings lifting up into the air just before the blast wave hits them. It's like something out of a movie. :eek:




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PostPosted: 08-04-2020 12:15 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Apparently it might be stored sodium nitrate




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Digital Nausea
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PostPosted: 08-04-2020 12:16 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


After seeing all the videos from afar, the close-up video is the craziest. Mainly because it doesn’t seem that bad...




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Just another Earthling
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phantasmagoria wrote:
better shot:

https://tuckbot.tv/#/watch/i3lzc3

Why would that kind of material be held in civilian polulations. Jesus Christ.



That shockwave :eek:



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PostPosted: 08-04-2020 01:30 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Brace yourselves for the conspiracy theories. :miffed:




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https://www.presstv.com/Detail/2020/08/ ... rut-Hariri

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Abbas Ibrahim, the head of Lebanon’s General Security, said that “highly explosive materials” confiscated earlier had been stored at the site.




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PostPosted: 08-04-2020 10:33 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Transient wrote:
Brace yourselves for the conspiracy theories. :miffed:


I like this bit...

Quote:
Without offering any evidence, US President Donald Trump said the US military believed the explosion was caused by a "bomb of some kind".

"They seem to think it was an attack," Mr Trump said.

Two US officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told Reuters it was not clear where Mr Trump received his information.

They said initial information did not appear to show the explosion was an attack.


Source



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PostPosted: 08-06-2020 05:32 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


The before and after pictures are staggering.




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The Afflicted
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PostPosted: 08-07-2020 01:15 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Just water were that storage facility used to be... the sheer force...
Fuck.

And the country was ruined already because of fucked-up politics.




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PostPosted: 08-12-2020 08:04 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


isnt that the same shit that caused the big ass explosion at that chinese port like 2 or 3 years ago?




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Etile
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PostPosted: 08-13-2020 12:59 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


ammonium nitrate?

same thing McVeigh used in Oklahoma City but way way more




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PostPosted: 08-13-2020 07:56 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Yeah that's what it is. I looked into it and there was 800 tonnes of ammonium nitrate on the site in addition to 500 tonnes of potassium nitrate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Tianjin_explosions




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PostPosted: 08-13-2020 07:58 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Apparently the Beirut one was something like 2,700 tons. Detonation velocity of NH4NO3 is 2.5km/s - that is fucking nuts :eek:




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Who's that man, Mommy?
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PostPosted: 08-14-2020 12:53 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


https://www.maritime-executive.com/arti ... explosives

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Sparks from their welding work ignited a supply of fireworks, which had been stored next to the ammonium nitrate cache


Wow... this years darwin awards are decided.




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PostPosted: 08-14-2020 01:07 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


So some dumbass contractor didn't bother to do a safety check before welding, and a week later the Lebanese government has all resigned.




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PostPosted: 08-14-2020 09:42 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Transient wrote:
So some dumbass contractor didn't bother to do a safety check before welding, and a week later the Lebanese government has all resigned.

That's simplifying it way too much.
First of all, the explosive material was never supposed to be there in the first place. Also, this explosion is what broke the proverbial camel's back. It's not like the Lebanese government was doing a good job before this.




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PostPosted: 08-14-2020 10:44 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I totally agree, I was deliberately simplifying it. I meant to point out the fragility of the government over there. There's a lot of it going around, these days.




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PostPosted: 11-20-2020 11:46 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


https://forensic-architecture.org/inves ... -explosion



12-minute video of a forensic analysis of the blast with a digital reconstruction. Quite interesting. :up:




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PostPosted: 11-21-2020 06:11 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Fascinating what they've deduced from camera footage. Such a cacophony of negligence. I hope it helps the families bring who's accountable to justice.

3d model looks really interesting, I'll have a gander at it.



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Etile
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PostPosted: 11-21-2020 07:16 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


like they said - a makeshift bomb




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