Fast Defrag 2 Professional

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:16 am

It's a ram defragger. Any good? Seems to cause sporadic system slow downs, though that may be caused by any number of other programs.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:39 am

is this the same type of snake oil people use to "free up" ram?

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:40 am

Yes, possibly.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 11:44 am

My entire system maintainance regime:
- Fast Defrag 2 Professional
- Norton AV (scheduled scans daily)
- MS antispyware (scheduled scans daily, auto-updates)
- Sygate Personal Firewall Pro
- Executive Software Diskeeper 9 (scheduled HD defrags daily, defrags HDs much quicker than regular defrag prog)

Post by **Tormentius** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:16 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:My entire system maintainance regime:
- Fast Defrag 2 Professional
- Norton AV (scheduled scans daily)
- MS antispyware (scheduled scans daily, auto-updates)
- Sygate Personal Firewall Pro
- Executive Software Diskeeper 9 (scheduled HD defrags daily, defrags HDs much quicker than regular defrag prog)

Most of those are decent but you don't need Fast Defrag (as Jug said, its snake oil) and you don't need Sygate providing you have a router in place (unless you really see a need for outbound protection).

Post by **Foo** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 3:41 pm

Posted a few hours ago in Gen Disc:

Foo wrote:Pyro, you should read this: http://www.windowsitpro.com/WinInfo/Art ... 41095.html

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 5:50 pm

Tormentius wrote:...and you don't need Sygate providing you have a router in place (unless you really see a need for outbound protection).[/color]

unless he's possibly got spyware that MS anti hasn't caught yet. Kerio Personal Firewall is light and a great alternative to Sygate.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:10 pm

Sygate is also light, but is Kerio superior?

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:11 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:My entire system maintainance regime:
- Fast Defrag 2 Professional

I've disabled this program for now.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:17 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:Sygate is also light, but is Kerio superior?

I've not used Sygate, only tested Kerio and ZoneAlarm for friends/family. Kerio was a clear choice, imo. This is of course only used in conjunction with a router and for "heavy clickers". If you know your system is clean, and you have a router, kill a process by eliminating the software firewall.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:19 pm

btw, isn't a DAILY defrag a bit overkill?

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:37 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:btw, isn't a DAILY defrag a bit overkill?

It's much quicker when it's more frequent, I set it for a time when I'm away from the computer. I mentioned that these defrags were by design much faster than normal defrags, coupled with low fragmentation after a day's use, the defrags are downright speedy.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:41 pm

Torm, I'm behind a router most of the time but occasionally (sometimes frequently) I'm on wifi networks with many other strangers.

Post by **Foo** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:41 pm

I don't notice any performance gain with degragging since I moved from Windows 98.

Minor gains, but nothing that makes it worth doing.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:44 pm

Foo wrote:I don't notice any performance gain with degragging since I moved from Windows 98.

Minor gains, but nothing that makes it worth doing.

I manage to bring any system I use to it's knees over time, unfortunate fact. From my personal experience, defrags help a good bit, enough to justify their scheduled use in this case.

Post by **Massive Quasars** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 6:46 pm

Btw, are there no good programs for managing RAM out there?

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:35 pm

Foo wrote:I don't notice any performance gain with degragging since I moved from Windows 98.

Minor gains, but nothing that makes it worth doing.

only time i ever noticed a performance gain was when someone hadn't EVER done one on their pc after two years. other than that, a quarterly one is good enough for me, but not necessary.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:37 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:
Foo wrote:I don't notice any performance gain with degragging since I moved from Windows 98.

Minor gains, but nothing that makes it worth doing.
I manage to bring any system I use to it's knees over time, unfortunate fact. From my personal experience, defrags help a good bit, enough to justify their scheduled use in this case.

what's "over time"? i reinstall at least once a year just because. instead of third party apps maybe you should consider doing that more often. not a big deal once you ghost it or do an unattended install.

Post by **Tormentius** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:39 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:btw, isn't a DAILY defrag a bit overkill?

Agreed. Once a week is even overkill IMO. Once a month is more than enough and the built-in defrag app does the trick just fine (and eliminates another background process such as the one Diskeeper leaves active).

Post by **Tormentius** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:41 pm

Massive Quasars wrote:Btw, are there no good programs for managing RAM out there?

Yes, there a couple excellent memory management apps available: they're called Windows 2000 or Windows XP. Both OS' do a more than adequate job of managing their own memory. Check the link Foo posted for a more detailed explanation.

Post by **SoM** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:47 pm

i stopped visiting porn sites and now get no spyware at all

M$ antispyware runs everynight
norton 2005 every friday

no shit to be found

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 7:48 pm

SoM wrote:i stopped visiting porn sites and now get no spyware at all

M$ antispyware runs everynight
norton 2005 every friday

no shit to be found

\o/

Post by **SoM** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:04 pm

tru, but you love me now since i have a legit copy of XP PRO

*hug*

Post by **dzjepp** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 8:04 pm

Post by **SoM** » Wed Oct 05, 2005 10:01 pm

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