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Tormentius
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Post by Tormentius »

Hello folks,

I've been thinking of picking up a Mac Mini just for the hell of it. Does anyone own one? Opinions?
4g3nt_Smith
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Post by 4g3nt_Smith »

I have to say you'd be massively disappointed fi you bought one, as there are no BSOD's, no shitty, built-in to the shell browsers, and no generic and unexplainable times when the OS just hoses itself. Aside from that, I hear its a great little system, but if you do buy one, I'd recommend at least 512 megs of RAM, and not buying said RAM from Apple since they like to charge too much ala PC OEMS.
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Post by 4g3nt_Smith »

Also, wait until Tiger is released, unless you like paying for something you could've had for free had you waited 3 months.
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Post by Canis »

The Mac Mini is great. I dont know WTF smith is referring to. It's limited on upgrades, but the software is just the same as what's available on other macs. Waiting for Tiger wont do anything, since the hardware wont change at that time.
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Post by Tormentius »

Canis wrote:The Mac Mini is great. I dont know WTF smith is referring to. It's limited on upgrades, but the software is just the same as what's available on other macs. Waiting for Tiger wont do anything, since the hardware wont change at that time.
Thanks man :icon14:
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Post by 4g3nt_Smith »

But waiting for Tiger will save him the money required to purchase the upgrade that would come standard on every Mac.
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Post by Canis »

Ah yes. I thought you were referring to some advantage that Tiger would offer in terms of performance and efficiency over the latest OS.
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Post by 4g3nt_Smith »

Well, if the trend continues, Tiger will run better on existing hardware then previous versions did (so I hear from people who have used OS X since 10.0)
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Post by Canis »

Of course the latest OS will manage current hardware more efficiently, but I meant in terms of support for newer hardware, which is what I thought you were referring to earlier on.
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Post by 4g3nt_Smith »

Well, there also some rumors of Apple boostig all the product lines whose graphics cards currently capable of Core Image, replacing them with ones that can.
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Post by saturn »

4g3nt_Smith wrote:Also, wait until Tiger is released, unless you like paying for something you could've had for free had you waited 3 months.
so it's coming out in 3 months?
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Post by 4g3nt_Smith »

First half of '05. Three month from now is almost June, so it's not unlkely.
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Post by saturn »

I've seen some of the new features, looks great. Shame it will take another 3 months, I want to buy that Powerbook now :mad:
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Post by NCG_Mike[temp] »

10.4 will be released at WWDC, I'm pretty confident of that.

Build numbers have slowed down but I do know there's a big gap in build numbers between what the Premier ADC members are seeing and what the elite members are seeing. Can't say more there.

As for what it's like, it's noticeably faster on a dual G5. It also has a lot of features which are good for a developer like myself... GCC 4.0 with *auto vectorization* of code and a load of Obj-C work has been done. XCode 2.0 looks more like Project Builder, which is a relief.

FYI, auto vectorization is automatic Velocity (Altivec) codegen by the compiler. If you're still using a G3 system, sell it now as you will see a lot of requirements need a G4 as a minimum.
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Post by Canis »

I thought vectorized code could run on a G3, only a shitload slower than a G4 or G5. FFS they only stopped selling G3-based comps a year or so ago, which they should keep in mind for a few more years at least.
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Post by Psyche911 »

My mom is considering buying a Mac. I'm not sure if I should convince her to get one of these or an iMac G5. The iMac would only be a couple hundred more after buying a decent monitor for the Mini....

P.S. Hi all. :)
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Post by Canis »

It wont matter. The iMac G5 will give her a better processor and GPU, but with those two options it will be more of what appeals to her rather than performance.
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Post by NCG_Mike[temp] »

No, from the docs of GCC 4, auto vectorized code need a GPU (Altivec/Velocity). It's not so say that GCC will do a good job at it *but* it's the first GCC that does it. FYI, .Net has such a feature.
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Post by NCG_Mike[temp] »

Psyche911 wrote:My mom is considering buying a Mac. I'm not sure if I should convince her to get one of these or an iMac G5. The iMac would only be a couple hundred more after buying a decent monitor for the Mini....

P.S. Hi all. :)
Get the iMac.
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