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SplishSplash wrote: Worked fine last time I tried it, but it's been a while tbh.
When Opera crashes, I am able to reload all my tabs and windows. When Firefox crashes, no luck there. When I close firefox properly it will only reload the last window I closed with all it's tabs. Sometimes I'm forced to consolidate tabs into one window and then close that window last. Pretty gay.

Are you able to restore multiple windows (with multiple tabs inside each window)?
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Ah, I see where you're coming from. No, I'm afraid Firefox won't do that, as each window is a seperate instance of the program afaik.

I guess you're stuck with Opera.
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Damn... I prefer Firefox overall and am using it now but this feature is key for me.
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i smell a format in your near future. FF only crashed on me twice and i've used it (diff v. of course) for well over a year now.
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This HD hasn't been formatted in 1yr+. For the longest time explorer.exe would crash when opening windows explorer, turns out that was because of a virus. I fixed the problem recently, before my AV program eventually stopped working.

I only restart my computer (and Firefox) when it's required. I don't believe it's too much to ask, to have a program work properly for an indefinite period of time.
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Massive Quasars wrote:I only restart my computer (and Firefox) when it's required. I don't believe it's too much to ask, to have a program work properly for an indefinite period of time.
well FF does like to suck memory when it's been sitting open for a couple of hours. i don't recommend doing that.
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Each Firefox window is not its own instance, they all run under the same process [check the processes tab in the task manager].
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riddla wrote:
mxrz wrote:Opera 8 renders pages faster, takes less resources, starts up faster then firefox, is more secure then firefox and certainly has more features then firefox. Plain and simple.
I used Opera8 all day today. Final verdict? back to Firefox.

P.S. - use your Opera browser to check out how to use 'than' vs 'then' :lol:
If you were a proper grammar Nazi, you would have picked up on the "less" which should have been "fewer"
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Massive Quasars wrote:Damn... I prefer Firefox overall and am using it now but this feature is key for me.
Thing is, Firefox does run properly. You've got problems with your system deeper than Firefox, and that's what's causing the program to crash.

FF doesn't crash with any kind of regularity on a stable PC. I can't remember the last time it crashed on me.
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riddla wrote:use your Opera browser to check out how to use 'than' vs 'then'
I'm sorry, English is only my fourth language... Regardless, do you have any substantial arguments to prove any of my points wrong?
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:well FF does like to suck memory when it's been sitting open for a couple of hours. i don't recommend doing that.
There's something in about:config that you can do to make FF free up all unneeded memory everytime you minimize it. I forgot what it was, but I have it and it works nicely.
U4EA wrote:Each Firefox window is not its own instance, they all run under the same process [check the processes tab in the task manager].
True, I was wrong.
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mxrz wrote:
riddla wrote:use your Opera browser to check out how to use 'than' vs 'then'
I'm sorry, English is only my fourth language... Regardless, do you have any substantial arguments to prove any of my points wrong?
Well on my system, if there is a speed difference between the two it's hardly noticable. FF renders pages pretty much immediately. As far as the security, haven't really had a problem with that yet in any case. The fact that they charge to make it ad free is the one thing that will keep me from using it.
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Yeah, I saw that a while back when rep posted it. Doesn't take into consideration modern systems, the about:config tweaks, etc. I'm telling you, they both are basically identical speedwise on mine.
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SplishSplash wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:well FF does like to suck memory when it's been sitting open for a couple of hours. i don't recommend doing that.
There's something in about:config that you can do to make FF free up all unneeded memory everytime you minimize it. I forgot what it was, but I have it and it works nicely.
i think i've found it:
Step 1. Type about:config into Firefox's Address Bar and press Enter.

Step 2. Right-click any row, then click New, Integer. Type or paste the following preference name into the dialog box that appears (this is a hidden preference that doesn't exist in the Configuration Console until you create it):

browser.cache.memory.capacity

Step 3. Click OK, then enter the following integer number into the next dialog box, representing 16 MB of RAM for the cache:

16000

Step 4. Click OK to close the dialog box, then close all instances of Firefox and restart it.
already applied it and going to test it throughout the day. thx for the tip.
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found some great FF tips here. Thx to digg.com for that.
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mxrz wrote:Opera 8 renders pages faster, takes less resources, starts up faster then firefox, is more secure then firefox and certainly has more features then firefox. Plain and simple.
lol i knew this thread would fish rep out :)
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Or at least an alt, so he can still pretend to go on that ride across the northwest.
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[xeno]Julios wrote:
mxrz wrote:Opera 8 renders pages faster, takes less resources, starts up faster then firefox, is more secure then firefox and certainly has more features then firefox. Plain and simple.
lol i knew this thread would fish rep out :)
I was going to ask him if he was related in some way. :icon26: Figured it was a rep alt.
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No, I'm not rep, my old nick was [MPC] Maxx (Registered Jan. 2001, had 1K+ posts), tnf might remember me.
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mxrz wrote:No, I'm not rep, my old nick was [MPC] Maxx (Registered Jan. 2001, had 1K+ posts), tnf might remember me.
no, you don't understand. you have to be rep because you're defending a browser that you prefer. no, really.
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well, the memory leak tweak that i posted didn't work. left for the gym and FF was about 3.6k - come back almost 2 hours later and it's at 19k :\
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
mxrz wrote:No, I'm not rep, my old nick was [MPC] Maxx (Registered Jan. 2001, had 1K+ posts), tnf might remember me.
no, you don't understand. you have to be rep because you're defending a browser that you prefer. no, really.
It's not that, it's the fact that he did it in almost the exact same manner that rep does. Even down to the same browser comparison link. It doesn't bother me when someone defends what they like. Just that rep has a superiority complex attached with his.
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mxrz wrote:No, I'm not rep, my old nick was [MPC] Maxx (Registered Jan. 2001, had 1K+ posts), tnf might remember me.
heh, an old CTF/TA member finds his way back. sup Maxx.
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Waiting for Quake IV I guess :icon17:
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