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PostPosted: 11-06-2013 11:43 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Memphis wrote:
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So what's some good sci fi ?.


You know not good sci-fi after selling me DS9. With the exception of Garak, who is fucking awsome all of the time, most of it was dribbly wank.

"Oh look we travelled 638963982639 light years in a clapped-out, garage-built 'Ancient Bajoran' space-ship with fucking sails and crank handles, because of a random 'subspace eddie' anomaly and made it to Cardassian space. That must be how the 'Ancient Bajorans' did it!" And then Ducat exclaims they'd just found the evidence of the original vessel's achievement AND THAT'S THE BIG COINCIDENCE :tard:

DS9 starts off like a soap in space, but once they introduce the Dominion and the Jem'Hadar, things start to become really cool, including massive space ship battles.
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PostPosted: 11-07-2013 05:21 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Ryoki wrote:
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have you tried revolution?

it has some nice swordplaq scenes and the plot moves pretty quick


I tried an episode of this to soothe my scifi craving but alas, i rate it as some of the worst in the genre to ever hit the TV screen.



ey I was pretty hard up for sci fi so I speced both revolution and falling skies

yea I know thet are b grade but I ended up getting into them

I miss all the bsg and stargates , andromedas, and that muppet one



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Yeah, that's what I got told. Does it fuck. There are some excellent episodes and I love a lot of the humour courtesy of Quark and Odo interactions, sometimes Bashir, always Garak (best character ever) and of course Mr Worf, but the pacing continously stopping and starting makes the wetter episodes a grind to get through. Ducat was good until he went full-blown comic book and jesus that ending was abysmal. Truly arse backwards awful. And I put up with how many cheese-stuffed vomit inducing Sisko and Son eps and 7 seasons of Kai GodIJustWantToStabHerInTheMouth-Wynn for that spam-handed wrap-up. She took way, way, way, way too long to get canned and got far too much screen-time for a character that served little other purpose than to be irritating as fuck. And I dunno what it is, but there's something about Avery Brooks that makes me suspicious that he's actually a bit of a twat.


I still fantasize about some Kira Nerys and Jadzia Dax one-on-one action, namsayn?
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PostPosted: 11-07-2013 09:48 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I didn't mind ds9 when they where going places and doing things but their were a lot of what I call "pressure cooker" episodes where theyre like closed in under stress

ACT ACT ACT !



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PostPosted: 11-07-2013 09:53 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


DS9 sucked balls, had the dumbest ending ever and Avery Brooks wouldn't smoke a joint with me when I asked him.

And the "Sisko and Son" stuff between the actors is real...those two are really sappy when they're in the same room. Probably some anal going on.
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PostPosted: 11-07-2013 10:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Everyone is correct lol.

The thing is, whenever I watched this since its airing I usually skip the 'filler' episodes so I stick with the story. I think DS9 opened up the Star Trek universe more than most of the other series imo which is why I appreciated it, they also ditched the squeaky clean idea. It also had some of the best characters (still short of TNG) and plots with plenty of variation :shrug: . I don't think any other series had this much interaction between the Romulans / Klingons / Ferenghi whilst introducing new species and including a civil war.

Bajor in general were a bunch of idiots tho, I hated any of the storylines to do with the prophets (This kind of storytelling also completely ruined BSG). The sisko and son thing was a pain in the arse too and just cringeworthy at times. He was like a Wesley with too much screen time.

Its peak was during the Klingon empire being infiltrated and the dominion / Cardasians forming an alliance imo, Season 4/5 ?. I think after that they went prophet heavy. My last re-run I don't think I bothered with season 7.



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PostPosted: 11-07-2013 10:50 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Fucking DS9. Biggest pile of shite to be on the TV screen ever.
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PostPosted: 11-07-2013 10:52 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


TNG > DS9 > Enterprise > Voyager / ToS

Some people may switch enterprise / ds9 but I propose that if you don't like ds9 then you don't like Star Trek :)



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...I propose that if you don't like ds9 then you don't like Star Trek :)


No sorry...you're completely wrong and I'll tell you why:

- DS9 turned Starfleet into the US Navy.
- DS9 turned Starfleet's Admiralty into a bunch of neo-con war-mongers.
- DS9 turned Star Trek's legacy of adventure and introspective of the human condition into a mindless splosion-fest devoid of anything that came close to the "soul" of Star Trek and more closely resembled a Tom Clancy novel.

DS9 was for the exact same idiots who love the new movies: dumb rednecks who get bored easily.

Fuck anyone who liked that show. :down:
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Then re-arrange the 1st part of my post to your liking :)

That's a pretty common opinion me thinks and don't act like there weren;t bastard star fleet admirals that wanted war in TNG :). I remember an episode where Riker had to go behind Picards back to help his old captain who's now an admiral, developing a cloaking device I think ?. Picard had to go undercover under orders and got stranded in Romulan space in an effort to kick off a war n all (was that the same episode ?)

I think that was a stoyrline in the novels too ?

Also, if you think that DS9 turned Star Trek into the US navy then you really need to take a closer look at the name of the ships in the prior runs ;)



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Oh ffs you're talking about individual episodes from other shows and I'm talking about a multi-season story arc. Yeah...they're exactly the same. :rolleyes:

You can't seem to follow along to what's being discussed.
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Keep up trev, I'm just providing examples. The only person that was truely neutral in TNG was Picard most of the time :)

btw, Starfleet wasn't war mongering in ds9. They actually followed suite and addressed modern day problems into the story arcs imo, why did you feel sorry for the murderous marquee blowing up the US navy ?. You didn't come away from the battle scenes thinking HARDCORE (most of the time), it was like innocent people died again. Like Sisko trying to intervene in the destruction of the founders. DS9 drew sympathy for all their enemies.

BSG done something similiar in the occupation of New Caprica and that was its best series.



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You didn't come away from the battle scenes thinking HARDCORE


No. I came away with,"These people have no clue what they're doing".

If you can't understand how DS9 effectively made Starfleet and everything it stood for become an extension of Section 31 then you really are clueless about what makes Star Trek Star Trek.
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I just think that you failed to see the ethos of the whole franchise as I have explained, hence why you don't like it :)

losCHUNK wrote:
TNG > DS9 > Enterprise > Voyager / ToS

Some people may switch enterprise / ds9 but I propose that if you don't like ds9 then you don't like Star Trek :)


Oh yea and don't bitch at DS9 cos the movies decided to revolve around section 31, they were barely mentioned and was a cool introduction. Starfleet have always been more concerned about their image.



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DS9 was great. It was a nice change of pace compared to TNG. Remember they ran concurrently for a while. There wasn't any need for two shows with ships exploring space. So f all yall, every series has their shit episodes...
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I enjoyed DS9 - section 31 was pretty cool.

As for good shows...

the fall
house of cards
hannibal

gonna try marvel agents of shield coz i like joss whedon.
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i would recommend hannibal if only for the main character's performance
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PostPosted: 11-08-2013 12:46 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


I thought Voyager was pretty neat too. Never got into Enterprise much. I think that wasn't StarTrek-ey enough.
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Enterprise was gay. Voyager was stretching the suspension of disbelief a little too much.
TNG is where it's at. Time to watch the Borg box again, bitches.
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PostPosted: 11-08-2013 01:23 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


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Voyager was stretching the suspension of disbelief a little too much.


No need for suspension of disbelief with Voyager. Jeri Ryans tits leave little to the imagination. Hubbahubba!
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Her godly tits were easily the best 2 things in Voyager :up:



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Jeri Ryans tits leave little to the imagination. Hubbahubba!


Ryoki wrote:
Her godly tits were easily the best 2 things in Voyager :up:


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What's she look like now ?, do we stand a chance yet ?



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She's quite an attractive woman IMO, especially considering she's like 45 yo now.
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I highly recommend Orange is the New Black
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/26/n ... smash-hit/


I tried watching this. My verdict was that it's a super boring version of "OZ" for women. One woman disrespected another and I kept waiting for the scene where she gets shanked in a back room but instead they just worked out their differences by talking :dork:



I didn't finish this show but I did start watching OZ again because of it so that's good :up:

I will admit the nude/sex scenes in Orange are much better....
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I will admit the nude/sex scenes in Orange are much better....


Full frontal vaginage, from what I hear.
Still...
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it's boring, and for women.
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So I tried an episode of Agents of Shield this weekend... yeah, thats pretty damn awful too.

What happened to all the good shows :(



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Arrested Development is pfg.
and also genuine lols at times.
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PostPosted: 11-11-2013 09:29 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


game of thrones?



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PostPosted: 11-11-2013 01:15 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Not until April 2014
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watched the first episode of dexter. Like listening to CBTNuggets, it was lacked a certain well-rounded understated intelligence. Not sure what I'd expected but think i'll continue since I'm apparently a sucker for disappointment. :o
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watch the first 2 seasons, and then stop right there.

you're welcome.
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netflix has the first 4 now and I think that's appropriate.
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i was gonna say. S4 is fucking awesome and an adequate ending for the series.

forming an opinion on a pilot is not fair. especially if the series contains an arc.
go watch.
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