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Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:25 pm
by hate
u told her

lol

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:39 pm
by Hannibal
Massive Quasars wrote:The source is a book?
yeah, a collection of articles in book form....his article being one of the collection. I know I have it here someplace....grimble gramble grumble.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:47 pm
by SmokeyTreats
hate wrote:u told her

lol


I respect her.

She knows my word is law if I so choose but I only get that privledge because
I don't make demands like "WE GONNNA GROW SOME WEED DOWN IN THE BASEMENT BITCH!".

I get primo weed at discount prices from one of my subordinates so I wouldn't have much to gain anyway.

edit: @ h8

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:16 pm
by shaft
Freakaloin wrote:i understand how u could get mildly addicted to caffeine...but pot? rofl...its not addictive..unless ur one of those morons who can't control ur impulses...

Then why contemplate suicide when you run out? rofl...moron alert?


p.s fuk u...

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:30 pm
by Freakaloin
maybe as a joke? moron alert???

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:38 pm
by Duhard
Stop the spam you fucking noobs.

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:43 pm
by Guest
*looks at Duhards postcount*

Right... spam...

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:01 pm
by Doomcore
LOL....Duhard doesn't sleep at all....he's addicted to q3w....posting 24/7....

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:39 pm
by shaft
Freakaloin wrote:maybe as a joke? moron alert???
rofl, stupid joke alert? any questions? fuk u...

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:43 pm
by Freakaloin
shaft wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:maybe as a joke? moron alert???
rofl, stupid joke alert? any questions? fuk u...
CRUSHED...next...

Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:39 pm
by Hannibal
Hannibal wrote: There is a great artcle by Peter van Inwagen which links our conceptual capacities to the apparent insolubility of mind/body problem. But fuck me I can't remember the title....I'll drop it in here if I can find the relevant book.
Oops, no wonder I couldn't track the fucker down. The article I was referring to is by Colin McGinn. Durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.....

full citation: McGinn, C. (1989), ‘Can we solve the mind-body problem?', Mind, 98, 349-366.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:58 am
by [xeno]Julios
tx hann will check it out :)

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:03 am
by simple
It is true that pot doesn't meet the medical definition of addiction. But the treatment for pot is in the same as an addiction.

"addicts" of pot exhibits all the symptoms of addiction. The human brain can come to expect and predict the use of pot. The brain can create symptoms; to encourage its use. Witch is why many addict talk about self metication. Trying to 'mantane' by doing their drug. Like the feeling of edgy ness. It's Having the perception that they can't function normally without pot.

pot addicts talk about not being able to initiate new tasks. They use pot as a coping tool. It's quite a lame tool. It only serves to suppresses feelings and emotions for a short time. With out actually handeling the problems.

At wich point do you call it an addiction. When some one choses pot over social obligations? Pot over going to work. Pot over getting food? Perhaps when it's more important to them then having a baby, or breaking up on their girl friend? Or perhaps after risk being jailed and fined every day for 3 years. With no considerations of the consequences.

btw pot stimulates the brain in many ways similar to sex. And we do know that sex can be addictive.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:13 am
by Massive Quasars
as will i

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:41 pm
by Guest
simple wrote:
pot addicts talk about not being able to initiate new tasks. They use pot as a coping tool. It's quite a lame tool. It only serves to suppresses feelings and emotions for a short time. With out actually handeling the problems.
You know that paragraph is kinda funny cause what would you say when the problem is lazyness and pot makes you not so lazy? Cause like today for instance I was just getting up in the morning and didn't feel like doing anything, basicly I wanted to lay down on the couch and play video games. Instead, I smoked a joint and cleaned the entire house, rented a movie for the girl tonight and went to the liquor store to buy some wine. Had I not smoked any weed I woulda played NFSU2 and went to work then paniced tonight when I get home cause I have to clean the damn place before she get's there!

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:51 pm
by [xeno]Julios
One of the things that have always made drugs so powerful is their cultural adaptability, their way of acquiring meanings beyond their pharmacology. We think of marijuana, for example, as a drug of lethargy, of disaffection. But in Colombia, the historian David T. Courtwright points out in "Forces of Habit" (Harvard; $24.95), "peasants boast that cannabis helps them to quita el cansancio or reduce fatigue; increase their fuerza and ánimo, force and spirit; and become incansable, tireless." In Germany right after the Second World War, cigarettes briefly and suddenly became the equivalent of crack cocaine. "Up to a point, the majority of the habitual smokers preferred to do without food even under extreme conditions of nutrition rather than to forgo tobacco," according to one account of the period. "Many housewives... bartered fat and sugar for cigarettes." Even a drug as demonized as opium has been seen in a more favorable light. In the eighteen-thirties, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's grandfather Warren Delano II made the family fortune exporting the drug to China, and Delano was able to sugarcoat his activities so plausibly that no one ever accused his grandson of being the scion of a drug lord. And yet, as Bennett Alan Weinberg and Bonnie K. Bealer remind us in their marvellous new book "The World of Caffeine" (Routledge; $27.50), there is no drug quite as effortlessly adaptable as caffeine, the Zelig of chemical stimulants.
from here:

http://www.gladwell.com/2001/2001_07_30_a_java.htm

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:08 pm
by Foo
Kracus wrote:You know that paragraph is kinda funny cause what would you say when the problem is lazyness and pot makes you not so lazy? Cause like today for instance I was just getting up in the morning and didn't feel like doing anything, basicly I wanted to lay down on the couch and play video games. Instead, I smoked a joint and cleaned the entire house, rented a movie for the girl tonight and went to the liquor store to buy some wine. Had I not smoked any weed I woulda played NFSU2 and went to work then paniced tonight when I get home cause I have to clean the damn place before she get's there!
So you felt like shit and lazy until after you had your weed fix. This means weed makes you active! R U A Moron?

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:15 pm
by Freakaloin
Kracus wrote:
simple wrote:
pot addicts talk about not being able to initiate new tasks. They use pot as a coping tool. It's quite a lame tool. It only serves to suppresses feelings and emotions for a short time. With out actually handeling the problems.
You know that paragraph is kinda funny cause what would you say when the problem is lazyness and pot makes you not so lazy? Cause like today for instance I was just getting up in the morning and didn't feel like doing anything, basicly I wanted to lay down on the couch and play video games. Instead, I smoked a joint and cleaned the entire house, rented a movie for the girl tonight and went to the liquor store to buy some wine. Had I not smoked any weed I woulda played NFSU2 and went to work then paniced tonight when I get home cause I have to clean the damn place before she get's there!

yeah i find it much more easy to do the dishes and shit like that when stoned...

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:19 pm
by MKJ
Freakaloin wrote:
Kracus wrote:
simple wrote:
pot addicts talk about not being able to initiate new tasks. They use pot as a coping tool. It's quite a lame tool. It only serves to suppresses feelings and emotions for a short time. With out actually handeling the problems.
You know that paragraph is kinda funny cause what would you say when the problem is lazyness and pot makes you not so lazy? Cause like today for instance I was just getting up in the morning and didn't feel like doing anything, basicly I wanted to lay down on the couch and play video games. Instead, I smoked a joint and cleaned the entire house, rented a movie for the girl tonight and went to the liquor store to buy some wine. Had I not smoked any weed I woulda played NFSU2 and went to work then paniced tonight when I get home cause I have to clean the damn place before she get's there!

yeah i find it much more easy to do the dishes and shit like that when stoned...
:olo:

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 7:25 pm
by Guest
I agree with him to be honest. It makes a normaly dull task somewhat entertaining. You can argue that you could have just as easily done it without the influence of drugs but the reality is, it's still DULL. At least when you're high it's amusing. :p

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:13 pm
by simple
Kracus wrote:
simple wrote:
pot addicts talk about not being able to initiate new tasks. They use pot as a coping tool. It's quite a lame tool. It only serves to suppresses feelings and emotions for a short time. With out actually handeling the problems.
You know that paragraph is kinda funny cause what would you say when the problem is lazyness and pot makes you not so lazy? Cause like today for instance I was just getting up in the morning and didn't feel like doing anything, basicly I wanted to lay down on the couch and play video games. Instead, I smoked a joint and cleaned the entire house, rented a movie for the girl tonight and went to the liquor store to buy some wine. Had I not smoked any weed I woulda played NFSU2 and went to work then paniced tonight when I get home cause I have to clean the damn place before she get's there!
simple wrote:The brain can create symptoms; to encourage its use. Witch is why many addict talk about self metication. Trying to 'mantane' by doing their drug. Like the feeling of edgy ness. It's Having the perception that they can't function normally without pot.
Your just as capable off the durg as you are on the drug. Any perception that you are more capable on the drug is created by your mind to justifying the use of the drug.
You just complained about not being able to insheate tasks with out the use of your drug.

Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:35 pm
by [xeno]Julios
simple wrote: Your just as capable off the durg as you are on the drug. Any perception that you are more capable on the drug is created by your mind to justifying the use of the drug.
You just complained about not being able to insheate tasks with out the use of your drug.
that's not entirely true. Many drugs have performance enhancing effects.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:19 am
by Guest
Exactly, and weed enhances fun. Seriously, I'm not being stupid here it really does. It makes things way more interesting then they should be at time.