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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:05 pm
by Underpants?
Foo wrote:I'm thinking we should step this up a little bit. What if the satanic ritual also included a time share presentation?

No pressure.
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Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:13 pm
by Nightshade
DRuM wrote:
Nightshade wrote:
Law wrote: Possibly, or maybe something deeper. It's usually that way for people who use internet forums as a form of outlet for constant negative expression.
You should really read something into the fact that you're being backed up by the biggest moron on the board. And the Psych 101 amateur crap is hilarious, Drs. Fraud and Dung. :olo:
you're middle aged, bald, fat, and still at school :olo:
And still thanking my lucky stars that I'm not you. Bitter, old, big nosed, wifeless cunt with no future, fuming over a messageboard. It's funny to watch you get so angry over getting the reality of your "life" stuck in your face.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:19 pm
by Scourge
Freakaloin wrote:atheists r about as dumb as fundamentalist christians...
Care to explain that little jewel of wisdom sparky?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:26 pm
by Foo
scourge34 wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:atheists r about as dumb as fundamentalist christians...
Care to explain that little jewel of wisdom sparky?
Simply because stating as fact that a higher power does not exist is just as baseless as stating that one does.

The obvious answer is that we dont know, and cant divine anything useful from assuming one way or the other.

Or in other words.... jelluz?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:28 pm
by plained
well scourge, i cant/dont speak the loin'ed one, but to me, it implys that mabe one should ask/ponder these questions oneself , and reach actual personal reasonings intead of just like, being told eh

eh or nah ive no idea :shrug:

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:28 pm
by Freakaloin
atheists assume they know something which is impossible to know...just like moronic christians...both r retarded...

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:31 pm
by tnf
so is agnostic the only way then?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:32 pm
by Foo
tnf wrote:so is agnostic the only way then?
It seems to be the only one that holds up to all logical scrutiny.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:33 pm
by Freakaloin
but its obvious there is no judging, meddling type of god...thats just moronic speak...

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:39 pm
by Scourge
But you just said yourself there is no way to know for sure.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:41 pm
by Scourge
plained wrote:well scourge, i cant/dont speak the loin'ed one, but to me, it implys that mabe one should ask/ponder these questions oneself , and reach actual personal reasonings intead of just like, being told eh

eh or nah ive no idea :shrug:
I'm quite capable of pondering the question myself. I was curious as to why he would say that. Going by his past statements he seemed to be atheist himself. :shrug:

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:46 pm
by Scourge
Freakaloin wrote:atheists assume they know something which is impossible to know...just like moronic christians...both r retarded...
So what's your plan then? Wait until you die and then claim loyalty to whatever religeon happens to be right if any?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:46 pm
by Freakaloin
scourge34 wrote:But you just said yourself there is no way to know for sure.
god is the prime mover...nothing more...religion has nothing to do with what could be called god...

religion is just superstition and nothing more...

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:50 pm
by dzjepp
Freakaloin wrote:
scourge34 wrote:But you just said yourself there is no way to know for sure.
god is the prime mover...nothing more...religion has nothing to do with what could be called god...

religion is just superstition and nothing more...
LOL, THIS IS FACT EH?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:52 pm
by dzjepp
Freakaloin wrote:atheists assume they know something which is impossible to know...just like moronic christians...both r retarded...
Why are you picking on the christians? What about islamic, buddhist, etc? Wouldn't they be retarted as well?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 5:56 pm
by Scourge
Freakaloin wrote:atheists assume they know something which is impossible to know
And what about this agian? You say that it is impossible to know, then turn around and say this:
Freakaloin wrote: god is the prime mover...nothing more...religion has nothing to do with what could be called god...

religion is just superstition and nothing more...
Either you're just baiting or you're the moron.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:00 pm
by Freakaloin
neither...ur the moron and just can't see it...the religious god isn't part of the god debate...thats just bs superstition...we r talking about a god...not a fairytale...

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:01 pm
by Freakaloin
dzjepp wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:atheists assume they know something which is impossible to know...just like moronic christians...both r retarded...
Why are you picking on the christians? What about islamic, buddhist, etc? Wouldn't they be retarted as well?
christians...muslims...whatever...they r all idiots...

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:05 pm
by dzjepp
Freakaloin wrote:neither...ur the moron and just can't see it...the religious god isn't part of the god debate...thats just bs superstition...we r talking about a god...not a fairytale...
so how do you know this non-religious god exists idiot? do you have it written down on your wrist or something?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:07 pm
by Pext
geoff is right. agnosticism or certain, quasi-agnostic notions of unitarianism are the only ways to settle the problem. everything else is superstition, fairytales and cowardly avoidance of a personal causa sui.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:12 pm
by Transient
Foo wrote:Simply because stating as fact that a higher power does not exist is just as baseless as stating that one does.

The obvious answer is that we dont know, and cant divine anything useful from assuming one way or the other.

Or in other words.... jelluz?
Yeah, but the burden of proof lies with religion.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:15 pm
by Transient
dzjepp wrote:
Freakaloin wrote: god is the prime mover...nothing more...religion has nothing to do with what could be called god...

religion is just superstition and nothing more...
LOL, THIS IS FACT EH?
They way he puts it, God could simply be the cosmological forces that hold the universe together, not some sentient, omnipotent being. Stuff that can be explained by science, you know?

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:29 pm
by plained
scourge34 wrote:
plained wrote:well scourge, i cant/dont speak the loin'ed one, but to me, it implys that mabe one should ask/ponder these questions oneself , and reach actual personal reasonings intead of just like, being told eh

eh or nah ive no idea :shrug:
I'm quite capable of pondering the question myself. I was curious as to why he would say that. Going by his past statements he seemed to be atheist himself. :shrug:
i thank you sir in advance to not pigeon-hole me into somehow infering your non-capeabillites.

cause ey i dint. heh

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:32 pm
by Foo
Transient wrote:
Foo wrote:Simply because stating as fact that a higher power does not exist is just as baseless as stating that one does.

The obvious answer is that we dont know, and cant divine anything useful from assuming one way or the other.

Or in other words.... jelluz?
Yeah, but the burden of proof lies with religion.
I don't see how this is a 'but' against what I said. Athiesm believing no higher power exists, religions believing that they do. Agnosticism is the position to which both sides owe the burden of proof.

Both sides seek to make definitive statements when there exists no evidence to support either view, and likely never will be. If you're aware of occams razor, you'll be aware of this as one of the often stated quirks of its application.

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:44 pm
by Scourge
plained wrote:
scourge34 wrote:
plained wrote:well scourge, i cant/dont speak the loin'ed one, but to me, it implys that mabe one should ask/ponder these questions oneself , and reach actual personal reasonings intead of just like, being told eh

eh or nah ive no idea :shrug:
I'm quite capable of pondering the question myself. I was curious as to why he would say that. Going by his past statements he seemed to be atheist himself. :shrug:
i thank you sir in advance to not pigeon-hole me into somehow infering your non-capeabillites.

cause ey i dint. heh
Apparently I misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were saying I should figure it out myself. I don't know how in the world I could ever misunderstand you though. :p

Apologies for the mistake.