Russia invades Georgia

[Ryoki]

Pravda opionion article, i thought it was pretty funny:

President Bush,

Why don’t you shut up? In your statement on Monday regarding the legitimate actions of the Russian Federation in Georgia, you failed to mention the war crimes perpetrated by Georgian military forces, which American advisors support, against Russian and Ossetian civilians.

“President Bush,

Why don’t you shut up? Your faithful ally, Mikhail Saakashvili, was announcing a ceasefire deal while his troops, with your advisors, were massing on Ossetia’s border, which they crossed under cover of night and destroyed Tskhinvali, targeting civilian structures just like your forces did in Iraq.

President Bush,

Why don’t you shut up? Your American transport aircraft gave a ride home to thousands of Georgian soldiers from Iraq directly into the combat zone.

President Bush,

Why don’t you shut up? How do you account for the fact that among the Georgian soldiers fleeing the fighting yesterday you could clearly hear officers using American English giving orders to “Get back inside” and how do you account for the fact that there are reports of American soldiers among the Georgian casualties?

President Bush,

Why don’t you shut up? Do you really think anyone gives any importance whatsoever to your words after 8 years of your criminal and murderous regime and policies? Do you really believe you have any moral ground whatsoever and do you really imagine there is a single human being anywhere on this planet who does not stick up his middle finger every time you appear on a TV screen?

Do you really believe you have the right to give any opinion or advice after Abu Ghraib? After Guantanamo? After the massacre of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens? After the torture by CIA operatives?

Do you really believe you have any right to make a statement on any point of international law after your trumped-up charges against Iraq and the subsequent criminal invasion?

President Bush,

Why don’t you shut up? Suppose Russia for instance declares that Georgia has weapons of mass destruction? And that Russia knows where these WMD are, namely in Tblisi and Poti and north, south, east and west of there? And that it must be true because there is ‘magnificent foreign intelligence’ such as satellite photos of milk powder factories and baby cereals producing chemical weapons and which are currently being ‘driven around the country in vehicles’? Suppose Russia declares for instance that ‘Saakashvili stiffed the world’ and it is ‘time for regime change’?

Nice and simple, isn’t it, President Bush?

So, why don’t you shut up? Oh and by the way, send some more of your military advisors to Georgia, they are doing a sterling job. And they look all funny down the night sight, all green.

The US is not a superpower. It is a bankrupt farce run by imbeciles who were installed by stolen elections arranged by Karl Rove and Diebold. It is a laughing stock, that ignorantly affronts and attempts to bully an enormous country equipped with tens of thousands of nuclear weapons."

[MKJ]

oh fuc

[CaseDogg]

fucking brutes

yuk, look at her tits.

[MKJ]

Lawl: google says fuck u...

http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2008 ... -maps.html

[Ryoki]

What kind of bullshit is that, you'd have to be a complete moron not to realise that 'our users (...) would rather see even very basic coverage of a country than see nothing at all'.

[Plan B]

fucking brutes

yuk, look at her tits.

Yet her hair looks like it could withstand three more bomb shells.

[Captain]

Pravda opionion article, i thought it was pretty funny:

[Peenyuh]

Pravda opionion article, i thought it was pretty funny:

Can't argue with that. I flip the SOB off all the time too.

[QuakeThane]

U.S., Poland agree to missile defense deal
Russia infuriated with plan, had threatened to redirect missiles to Poland

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26203430/

WOOT! Its heating up folks! Sales of Front Lines Fuel of War are going through the roof!

http://frontlines.com/

[GONNAFISTYA]

I read today that this whole thing was Cheney's idea to get the cold war rolling again. He loves him some cold war. I have no idea if it's true, but knowing his history (and America's history of meddling) I wouldn't be surprised one bit.

The "War On Terrorism" has shitty market value...chasing fags in caves isn't smack/bam/pow enough for American audiences. The "Cold War 2" is much more exciting. Face it folks, this is the "big distraction" you'll be fed until the election...when you shove your heads back up your asses and vote Republican.

[YourGrandpa]

So the U.S. told Russia to invade Georgia in a scheme designed to distract Americans into voting Republican?

Wow, I think someone might be suffering from Geoffitus.

[tnf]

I think he means encouraging Georgia to shell the South Ossentians, which would in turn cause Russia to react, most likely very brutally - but I'm just guessing as I haven't read the article about Cheney.

But you do know enough about the situation to know that the Russian 'invasion' wasn't unprovoked right? And that said provocation involved Georgian violence against innocents in South Ossetia?

[Tormentius]

But you do know enough about the situation to know that the Russian 'invasion' wasn't unprovoked right? And that said provocation involved Georgian violence against innocents in South Ossetia?

Quite a bit of violence against the Ossetians at that. Its not like Georgia didn't know what was coming either, the Russians tend to be fairly...efficient...at waging war.

[tnf]

heh...just watched Gorbechev(sp?) imply that the whole Georgian aggression that prompted Russia may have been an American plan from the get-go...ironic timing.

IMHO, Georgia overplayed its hand thinking that the fact that it was supported by the US would prevent Russia from reacting as harshly as it did to the way it was treating the South Ossetians. Russia, knowing that the US isn't going to risk open confrontation with them and isn't going to do shit beyond its typical holier than thou rhetoric (which is stunning in its hypocrisy and irony - hearing GWB, McCain, and the gang lambast a country for invading another sovereign nation...). So Russia can send a message to all the other small nations who want to align with the US and think that doing so will offer them some sort of real protection from consequences for their actions. Russia may indeed be overreacting, and Russia's intentions are probably just as opportunistic as ours were in invading Iraq (meaning that apparent defense of the South Ossetians is just a convenient excuse for an invasion and smacking around they've been waiting to do just to stick it to the US) but the bottom line is that it is really time America wakes up from its world police mentality and realizes that shit is always a lot more complicated than US = good, them=bad.

Just my uniformed opinions.

[tnf]

I can already see the political ads going on about how we need experienced and steady leadership in these dangerous times and the lemmings following McCain right off the fucking cliff.

[GONNAFISTYA]

I can already see the political ads going on about how we need experienced and steady leadership in these dangerous times and the lemmings following McCain right off the fucking cliff.

...this is the "big distraction" you'll be fed until the election...when you shove your heads back up your asses and vote Republican.

[GONNAFISTYA]

So the U.S. told Russia to invade Georgia in a scheme designed to distract Americans into voting Republican?

I doubt the intentions are to get people to vote Republican (that was a joke redneck) but I do believe there are bigger plans behind it. You need to do more reading to get a bigger picture of the history of the land and the business connections to people (lobbyists) between Washington and Georgia.

[YourGrandpa]

So the U.S. told Georgia to attack Russia because the U.S. knew that Russia would invade Georgia and then everyone would vote Republican?

[GONNAFISTYA]

Ruckin fetard.

[YourGrandpa]

I like ths scenario better.

The U.S. hires a bunch of actors to play soldiers that attack each other, pays Russia and Georgia to go along with the story that Russia invaded Georgia, all in a last ditch effort to get Americans to vote Republican.

It's the wag the dog/tropic thunder approach to winning an election. Only it's not in the tropics and the U.S. isn't fighting another country.

[Unisaw]

Putin - Your move:

U.S., Poland Reach Agreement on Missile Defense

The Russian incursion heightened Poland's security concerns and ``made the Polish government a little more willing to conclude a deal,'' said Wade Boese, research director at the Arms Control Association, a non-partisan group in Washington. ``It may also have made the Bush administration more willing to meet the Polish demands.''

Bloomberg

[tnf]

So the U.S. told Georgia to attack Russia because the U.S. knew that Russia would invade Georgia and then everyone would vote Republican?

Ya, just exactly like that. It's what everyone here has been saying obviously, right?
Despite all the discussion that has gone on here, this is how many will characterize the argument of anyone who has done a little more research into the situation and realizes that there is a lot more to this whole thing than simply "Russia invades US ally". Nobody has made a real serious argument that this (US told georgia to attack russia for republican votes) is the case, but there are shades of gray that the binary worldview does allow one to see or understand it appears.

[Fender]

Ron Paul called it in 2002. (sorta)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya6JfFK_lYQ

[R00k]

Bush, Decrying ‘Bullying,’ Calls for Russia to Leave Georgia

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/16/world ... xy.html?hp

[YourGrandpa]

We just need to keep our nose out of this shit....

Let Europe work this one out amongst themselves.