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goddamnit they didn't give their lives for me they gave it for imperialistic america's corporate interests stop trying to guilt me you bitch.

of course saying that would make you "anti-american" and unpatriotic....questioning why they're over there dying instead of just being sad they're dead.

STOP THINKING SO MUCH

Whiskey 7 wrote:

andyman wrote:....type "ba" in the search bar of youtube, and this is on top...

Thanks andyman

I have to ask how in the world would you know to type ba in that search bar? OIC, search engine stuff... Obvious now but ba?

Incredible there's 595,205,829 hits on that vid and I could only get to 2:20 before closing the window

I tried some other searches ... 'ZZ' gives this one. Nice. Me, well I searched one of my favourites

I got to get about and about some more.

Loved the legs video by ZZ your favorite was blocked in my country. Suckie!!

DRuM wrote: How many musicians do you run into? Not many I shouldn't think, and the one's you do run into probably share your enthusiasm for prog rock type bands like dream theater. Hardly a qualification by which to judge a completely different genre that you probably never take much interest in listening to.

Hahaha

lars63 wrote: Loved the legs video by ZZ your favorite was blocked in my country. Suckie!!

Yes, blocking by country sucks. It wouldn't be the first time I've tried to watch a video and it is blocked - copyright laws I guess?

My favourite (well one anyway) is the 'Apocalypse Now' sequence - The Ride of the Valkyries. The American air cavalry attack. I am sure you know what I mean, must have seen the movie If not, do for sure.

Glad you like the Legs video by ZZ Top

Drum, once more to be sure: I'm not disputing Winehouse's talent here. It's just that we live in a different time.

When Jimi Hendrix or Janis Joplin were big, people that bought their records would buy it because they absolutely adored their music and were thrilled to own a piece of it. They'd play the record over and over and over again and just couldn't get enough of it. That way legends like them are born.

These days though, people download a Winehouse single through iTunes, listen to it once or twice and simply discard is as soon as the next "big thing" comes along. Winehouse doesn't play a significantly large enough role in the (musical) lives of the people that know her. She's just one of the many MP3's in their iTunes folder.

That's the difference and that's why she will never be a legend like Hendrix or Joplin.

Eraser wrote:That's the difference and that's why she will never be a legend like Hendrix or Joplin.

That's really just technology changing the way people listen to and absorb music. It's called saturation and the internet has changed the way our brain works in many ways, especially when it comes to memory. The days of Hendrix and co usually consisted of working hard, saving money and then purchasing the vinyl LP. Something you can touch, with full-body artwork and something you had to handle delicately. Now, the modern album leaks onto the internet weeks early and is yours in less than 10 seconds, with no financial or physical effort involved in any way. Very few people place any value in the listening experience any more, but it doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of the artists themselves, just a change in consumer attitude.

brisk wrote:

Eraser wrote:That's the difference and that's why she will never be a legend like Hendrix or Joplin.

That's really just technology changing the way people listen to and absorb music. It's called saturation and the internet has changed the way our brain works in many ways, especially when it comes to memory. The days of Hendrix and co usually consisted of working hard, saving money and then purchasing the vinyl LP. Something you can touch, with full-body artwork and something you had to handle delicately. Now, the modern album leaks onto the internet weeks early and is yours in less than 10 seconds, with no financial or physical effort involved in any way. Very few people place any value in the listening experience any more, but it doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of the artists themselves, just a change in consumer attitude.

You conveniently ignore the first line of my post to make some point. Not sure why you do this.
I clearly stated that I do not doubt that Amy Winehouse was a very talented singer, I was just arguing that exactly because of the change in consumer attitude you describe, Amy Winehouse will not become as legendary as the aforementioned other artists. Those artists were a beacon of their respective cultures. Amy Winehouse is just a number among many. That doesn't say anything about her quality as a singer. It does say a whole lot about the way her product is consumed.

ffs she's dead - just shut up about it

seremtan wrote:ffs she's dead - just shut up about it

Don't continue to read the thread on the subject if you're tired of the subject

Eraser wrote: You conveniently ignore the first line of my post to make some point. Not sure why you do this.
I clearly stated that I do not doubt that Amy Winehouse was a very talented singer, I was just arguing that exactly because of the change in consumer attitude you describe, Amy Winehouse will not become as legendary as the aforementioned other artists. Those artists were a beacon of their respective cultures. Amy Winehouse is just a number among many. That doesn't say anything about her quality as a singer. It does say a whole lot about the way her product is consumed.

What? I'm agreeing with you

I never said you were wrong, i'm just embellishing on what you wrote, specifically regarding trends in consumer listening. Calm down Randy, etc

I reckon you've both got it wrong.

By all accounts Amy Winehouse was a warm hearted soul who loved her family and was generous to a fault. She also was an alcoholic junkie who had every possible opportunity to beat her addiction.

There can be little doubt that she was a talented individual but can she be described as a legend? She released two albums and died aged 27. Does dying young instantly catapult you into this exalted status or do you have to have produced a consistent body of work to qualify?

You could argue that a similar status has been conferred to the likes of Jimi Henrdrix (three albums), Janice Joplin (three albums) or Kurt Cobain (three albums). Would we be speaking about Simon Le Bon with such reverence if he died early in Duran Duran's career? Probably.

It was interesting to note that many of my friend’s first reactions to her death were to go out and buy her albums. It was as if her death had made those albums more worthwhile in the eyes of the public. They do say dying is a great career move.

I have been a huge fan of hers for a while and I was shocked but not surprised by the recent news. I, like the rest gawped at the car crash that had become her life never actually thinking that drugs would kill her. We still don't know for sure if they did as toxicology reports have proved inconclusive although when I hear her father Mitch say that she died because her body could not handle the shock of going cold-turkey with alcohol I fear he is looking through the kind of rose-tinted glasses only a grieving father could wear.

As a result of divorcing the junkie scumbag of a husband who opened the Pandora's Box of her drug abuse she was reported to have started cleaning up her act with the help and stabilising influence of new boyfriend Reg Traviss. However, the proof is in the pudding and recent Youtube footage of her comeback performances in Europe was embarrassing and upsetting. She was incoherent, stick-thin and booed off stage in Serbia. Such a contrast to the bright eyed voluptuous Jewish girl that emerged from the Brit School.

Amy has been on my radar since she played down at Brighton's Concorde 2 back in 2004. She was getting a lot of press at the time as debut album Frank, an assured mix of jazz and R'n B with some no nonsense lyrics concerning lacklustre boyfriends and slutty girlfriends, was receiving the sort of critical acclaim that eventually led to an Ivor Novello award. Frank is a solid album but her chemistry with Mark Ronson on Back to Black, the best selling album of the 2000's in the UK, transformed her into a bona fide superstar. It is a superb album from start to finish.

Before her death, Amy had been recording sporadically over the last three years and some of her unreleased songs are said to have a reggae influence reflecting her extended stay in St Lucia. The president of Island Records Darcus Beese suggest the tracks are so good they “floored” him when he first heard them. A lot of them are merely bare bones demos and would need a producer to flesh them out. I am willing to wager my house on them being released in the not too distant future. I would love to see Mark Ronson back in the saddle. Who else could better do her songs justice?

Maybe another storming album could justify the "legend" epithet and detract from the overriding image of her Billie Hollidayesque descent into the twin hells of drink and drugs.

With her body buried all that is left are the eulogies and the nagging sense of a wasted talent.

Foo wrote:

seremtan wrote:ffs she's dead - just shut up about it

Don't continue to read the thread on the subject if you're tired of the subject

i haven't read this thread since about page 1. i just can't believe some people are making text walls on page 4 about it

that ok, dad?

This thread is a veritable whine house.

fuck off wet twat

seremtan wrote:
i haven't read this thread since about page 1. i just can't believe some people are making text walls on page 4 about it

I was about to post the same thing. I mean, come on...

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I know you guys would rather have peenyuh, so go ahead and delete if you must

i don't think it's an either/or choice

Piddla is still broken

get quad wrote:I know you guys would rather have peenyuh, so go ahead and delete if you must

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyFx6cnoBXY