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Tsakali wrote: This is one of the reasons why I get pissed that any and all gun violence in the US is sensationalized; gun violence is rampant is so many other countries and it's just accepted.

But gun violence in less privileged countries always seemed to have a point. They'll kill for religious, racial, politica , economical reasons. And more often the case being money, their crimes have reasons you can take to the bank...literally. Not just some over privileged fucker off his rocker.[/quote]

The vast majority of gun violence in the US is for these same reasons. Very few incidents are like the one in Colorado, the media just has a field day with them so it seems that they're the norm. They're not, nor are murders committed with rifles of any type, including "assault" weapons.

stop bringing facebook pictures into this sacred ground kthx

YOU HAVE TO BLAME THE SOCIALIST LEFTIST FEMONAZI FASCIST LIBERAL CZARS THAT GAVE ALL THE JOBS AWAY TO DAMN FOREIGNERS AND TURNED THIS BRIGHT YOUNG WHITE AMERICA-LOVING PATRIOT INTO A LIBERAL DEATH MACHINE MAY JESUS CHRIST BLESS HIS GOD-FEARING SOUL

seremtan wrote:if an emo clown shot me dead i'd be fucking livid

this

No, you'd be dead.

No, u

Apparently he sent a notebook to a psychiatrist, full of details about how he was going to kill all these people. But the package sat there unopened for days before the attack.

I've been thinking about this. At 10:00pm he set a song on repeat at his apartment, turned it up really loud, left the door cracked, and then left to go do his killing. My guess would be his plan was for someone to go up there and open the door to tell him to turn down the music, the place would blow, and a ton of cops would be dispatched to the scene. So while he does his killing at the theater, he wouldn't be bothered by cops. That would explain why they said he was so surprised to see the cops there when they arrested him. I'd even bet he was planning on going to other theaters in the area when he got done there. After all, he wasn't staying and shooting up the place and fighting the cops. They arrested him while he was taking his vest off and getting in his car.

Make sense to me...

Yes, his plan was that the noise complaint would bring the police and the building would blow, that was reported. I didn't see anything about a notebook though.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/07/25/ex ... mailed-to/

xer0s wrote:I've been thinking about this. At 10:00pm he set a song on repeat at his apartment, turned it up really loud, left the door cracked, and then left to go do his killing. My guess would be his plan was for someone to go up there and open the door to tell him to turn down the music, the place would blow, and a ton of cops would be dispatched to the scene. So while he does his killing at the theater, he wouldn't be bothered by cops. That would explain why they said he was so surprised to see the cops there when they arrested him. I'd even bet he was planning on going to other theaters in the area when he got done there. After all, he wasn't staying and shooting up the place and fighting the cops. They arrested him while he was taking his vest off and getting in his car.

Make sense to me...

Ok...so let me see if I understand your post correctly...

You're trying to take credit for coming up with a "theory" regarding the reasons he booby-trapped his apartment: to create a diversion...when it's been previously reported that your "theory" is exactly why he booby-trapped his apartment: to create a diversion. It was even reported in the link you yourself just provided (lol...Fox News no less).

What a total douchebag.

I'm willing to bet "xer0s the thinker" probably doesn't even remember where he read/heard/saw his "theory" and - like every other opinion he's ever claimed to have had - assumed it was his own.

Only in America can a complete moron afford an iPhone.

I never claimed the theory as my own. I'm sure most people assumed that was his plan.

You'll jump on anything I say. It's funny...

xer0s wrote:You'll jump on anything I say.

You know full well that's not true.

xer0s wrote:I never claimed the theory as my own.

"I've been thinking about this." "My guess would be.." "That would explain why..." "I'd even bet he..." "Make sense to me..."

No...I'm not saying you're a fucking idiot, I'm simply saying you're a fucking idiot.

full well it ain't

*unintelligible chinese banter*

shiny

lol xer0s, lol

GONNAFISTYA wrote:

xer0s wrote:You'll jump on anything I say.

You know full well that's not true.

xer0s wrote:I never claimed the theory as my own.

"I've been thinking about this." "My guess would be.." "That would explain why..." "I'd even bet he..." "Make sense to me..."

No...I'm not saying you're a fucking idiot, I'm simply saying you're a fucking idiot.

Ok dude.

What seriously is the draw, here? Does the act require 4 pages of discussion? Is this really more remarkable or more awful then the genocide / human trafficking / child porn happening elsewhere? Shit happens, some people are fucked, just be glad dude wasn't born into a role of leadership or worse, dictatorship. Move along ppl nothing to see here

Nightshade, the reason people frown upon gun violence in the US is that compared to other 1st world countries, gun violence is excesssive in the US. Sure, there's guns and violence in Africa as well, but almost exclusively in war torn areas. You'd just expect it from those regions.

I understand why people hold the perceptions they do about gun violence in the US. They just don't make sense to me. I think they're a function of media hype more than real numbers, especially when you compare the number of gun crimes against the number of legally owned guns.

I'd venture to say that there's gun violence in areas in Africa that aren't strictly "war-torn", but there's also Mexico, Colombia, lots of other countries.

Lol nightshade is an embarrassment on Facebook...

Nightshade wrote:I understand why people hold the perceptions they do about gun violence in the US. They just don't make sense to me. I think they're a function of media hype more than real numbers, especially when you compare the number of gun crimes against the number of legally owned guns.

I'd venture to say that there's gun violence in areas in Africa that aren't strictly "war-torn", but there's also Mexico, Colombia, lots of other countries.

Nightshade wrote:
I'd venture to say that there's gun violence in areas in Africa that aren't strictly "war-torn", but there's also Mexico, Colombia, lots of other countries.

My point remains. The US is not only a 1st world country, it wants to be examplary to others. It is one of the most important and influential countries in the world. The US wants to be something other countries aspire to be as well. Such high gun crime numbers just do not fit the image the US wants to portray of itself. The worst thing is that most US citizens and politicians act like there is no such problem.

Countries like Mexico or other Latin American states or African states.... they are scumbag states, 3rd world countries or close to being a 3rd world country. The gun violence there isn't Ok, but it's a whole different thing.

Also, pro-gun people keep saying guns dont kill people, people kill people. Well, maybe the American people aren't responsible enough for having such loose gun control. Sure, the guns aren't the problem, the people are. But since we can't take away the people and taking away the guns is (technically) not very hard, the choice and solution isn't very hard (if it weren't for the redneck gun hardliners)

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:graph

Nice graph, PuFF. Relevance? It's certainly not addressing the point I made. So...

Restrictions on guns are constitutional...

Assault rifles should be banned...

Unless ur a moron...

shame they didn't plot levels of gun ownership against that graph

also, i assume they left out mexico because they just couldn't keep up

Eraser wrote: My point remains. The US is not only a 1st world country, it wants to be examplary to others. It is one of the most important and influential countries in the world. The US wants to be something other countries aspire to be as well. Such high gun crime numbers just do not fit the image the US wants to portray of itself.

Uh, not really sure where you're getting this from. Not only do I think you're starting to talk about what the government think and says to other countries, it still doesn't seem relevant to the point I'm trying to make.

Eraser wrote: The worst thing is that most US citizens and politicians act like there is no such problem.

You don't know "most" US citizens or politicians, please don't generalize. I don't think that you'd be able to find anyone that thinks that there isn't at least some form of issue relating to gun violence in the US that needs to be addressed. Be it the fact that it's criminals using illegal firearms to commit murders or the availability of certain types of weapons (note that I don't think the latter is a problem), I think that if you were to ask 100 people, 95 of them would say that something needs to change.

Eraser wrote: Countries like Mexico or other Latin American states or African states.... they are scumbag states

Um, did you really just say this? I mean, I think I get what you're saying, but ffs dude.

Eraser wrote: Also, pro-gun people keep saying guns dont kill people, people kill people. Well, maybe the American people aren't responsible enough for having such loose gun control. Sure, the guns aren't the problem, the people are. But since we can't take away the people and taking away the guns is (technically) not very hard, the choice and solution isn't very hard (if it weren't for the redneck gun hardliners)

I think you're partially correct, some people shouldn't have guns. The problem is determining who those folks are. Taking away the guns from legal gun owners wouldn't be that hard, but they're not the problem. The VAST majority of people that commit crimes with guns don't get them legally. That's why most gun control laws are useless and stupid, and the Aurora shootings prove that. The Constitution says that it's my inalienable right to own firearms to protect myself and my family against harm and government tyranny. Why should I have to give that up because a VERY small percentage of people are fucking idiots and don't deserve the privilege?