Oh hey...another one

[seremtan]

Aaaaaand another one...

good piece on this by mark ames

[Ryoki]

Good read

[Nightshade]

lol It's been widely reported that cops might have shot 8 people accidently during the most recent shootout and you still want to bring the "responsible gun owner" argument? Trained cops? Moron.

This response has NOTHING to do with the comment of mine it was aimed at, you are an idiot. I wasn't talking about cops AT ALL, nor was I talking about anyone's level of competence with a firearm. I was talking about your fantastic illusions of America being a completely paranoid society. Stop being a fucking idiot, if you can.

Yeah sure.

That's the extent of your response? Really? Ok, dumbass, please don't expect anyone to take you seriously about anything, ever.

The "cause" is that a crazy populance thinks there's no gun problem.

Ah, I see you're familiar with our old friend circular logic. The gun problem is caused by a "crazy" populace that thinks there's no gun problem which is caused by a "crazy" populace...FFS man, how stoned are you? Please, please tell me you're higher than a kite so we can at least blame that instead you just being unbelievably stupid.

No, you're crazy not because your culture is different than mine or anyone else's, your culture is crazy because it is crazy. There are parts of Africa that are less crazy.

I, I really have no words for this. Look, I can totally respect your differing views and all that. I understand that we come from two different countries and that a lot of your opinions have clearly been shaped by all the time you've spent in Europe. But, you're not even attempting to have any sort of discussion here, assuming you're even capable. At this point I really doubt that you are and you're just waving your stinkeye all over the place. Well, you enjoy that, and I'll have a reasonable discussion with those that can from coherent arguments.

Oh, and I'd mention that your "solution" is nothing of the sort, just a bunch of vague, general statements. There are laws in place right now that are not adequately enforced that make it difficult for nutbags to get guns. But, you don't want to talk about that, you just want to yell louder about how there should be more laws, as if that makes sense or will change anything. MURRR.

[Nightshade]

Aaaaaand another one...

good piece on this by mark ames

Interesting. I like the way it yanks the rug out from underneath knee-jerk fucktards like GKY that wanted to paint this as another shooting spree, which it clearly was not. Gun crime? Yes. Mass murder? No.

Yes, these cops were clearly fucking morons and should all be put up on criminal charges. You know, for violating all the laws that already exist?

[YourGrandpa]

This has surely progressed. LOL. In the very same direction it always does when Americans and Euros discuss guns and gun law.

NS, I appreciate your noble attempt to reasonably discuss this subject. But GKY is beyond capable of doing so. He has a deep obsessive hatred for anything American. Conversing with him on this and any other topic regarding America is pointless. I have to admit that when I read some of the shit he posts I get a little pissed. His automatic dismissal and disrespect for anything American is disgusting. But before I give it a second thought I consider the source. A clearly depressed individual with no allegiance to any country, that has to feed his unhealthy negative obsession with America in order somehow feel better about himself. In short, he's sick. If you do any more than comment on his ignorant outbursts, you're wasting your time...

BTW, I am in no way implying that every European person is incapable of responsible gun control discussion. GKY represents a very "special" breed of Euro.

[seremtan]

tbh, the actual murder weapon is the least interesting or telling part of the story. there's a whole lot of other issues about employee rights, the position of older people in the modern capitalist economy, a culture that rewards dickishness towards other people, etc.

but liberals bang on about gun control instead, while conservative pro-RKBA types wouldn't touch any critique of capitalism with a million foot barge pole

[GONNAFISTYA]

This has surely progressed. LOL. In the very same direction it always does when Americans and Euros discuss guns and gun law.

NS, I appreciate your noble attempt to reasonably discuss this subject. But GKY is beyond capable of doing so. He has a deep obsessive hatred for anything American. Conversing with him on this and any other topic regarding America is pointless. I have to admit that when I read some of the shit he posts I get a little pissed. His automatic dismissal and disrespect for anything American is disgusting. But before I give it a second thought I consider the source. A clearly depressed individual with no allegiance to any country, that has to feed his unhealthy negative obsession with America in order somehow feel better about himself. In short, he's sick. If you do any more than comment on his ignorant outbursts, you're wasting your time...

BTW, I am in no way implying that every European person is incapable of responsible gun control discussion. GKY represents a very "special" breed of Euro.

lol I'm not European. You can't even begin your dumb rant on the right foot.

I simply refuse to accept the same stupid reasoning you crazy people have been trying to sell us over and over and over again, like it makes any more sense the 10,000th time you type it. Get over it.

There is absolutely NOTHING new that you morons have offered and you idiots say it is we, the non-gun nuts, who are going in cirlces. In-fucking-credible.

[YourGrandpa]

EURO mad. LOL!!!

[GONNAFISTYA]

lol It's been widely reported that cops might have shot 8 people accidently during the most recent shootout and you still want to bring the "responsible gun owner" argument? Trained cops? Moron.

This response has NOTHING to do with the comment of mine it was aimed at, you are an idiot. I wasn't talking about cops AT ALL, nor was I talking about anyone's level of competence with a firearm. I was talking about your fantastic illusions of America being a completely paranoid society. Stop being a fucking idiot, if you can.

Yeah sure.

That's the extent of your response? Really? Ok, dumbass, please don't expect anyone to take you seriously about anything, ever.

The "cause" is that a crazy populance thinks there's no gun problem.

Ah, I see you're familiar with our old friend circular logic. The gun problem is caused by a "crazy" populace that thinks there's no gun problem which is caused by a "crazy" populace...FFS man, how stoned are you? Please, please tell me you're higher than a kite so we can at least blame that instead you just being unbelievably stupid.

No, you're crazy not because your culture is different than mine or anyone else's, your culture is crazy because it is crazy. There are parts of Africa that are less crazy.

I, I really have no words for this. Look, I can totally respect your differing views and all that. I understand that we come from two different countries and that a lot of your opinions have clearly been shaped by all the time you've spent in Europe. But, you're not even attempting to have any sort of discussion here, assuming you're even capable. At this point I really doubt that you are and you're just waving your stinkeye all over the place. Well, you enjoy that, and I'll have a reasonable discussion with those that can from coherent arguments.

Oh, and I'd mention that your "solution" is nothing of the sort, just a bunch of vague, general statements. There are laws in place right now that are not adequately enforced that make it difficult for nutbags to get guns. But, you don't want to talk about that, you just want to yell louder about how there should be more laws, as if that makes sense or will change anything. MURRR.

I'm not even going to respond to this moronic drivel. I have explained everything that you're commenting about in the past - all of it - over and over again. And as to my "Yeah sure" comment...it means no argument on your point. It means we agree on it. But you're gonna argue it anyways. Because someone dared question the utter lack of responsibility your whole country has had in its entire history of gun violence. And because you are one of those idiots that chant "USA! USA! USA!" the instant you hear it.

You are so flustered and angry you don't care to see the point I've tried to make over and over and over again while explaining it 30 different ways. It's like talking to a Downs victim.

[GONNAFISTYA]

EURO mad. LOL!!!

Crazy Redneck!

So Crazy Redneck-angry he actually made a thread asking why everyone calls him Crazy Redneck. Because he's too stupid to figure out that he's a Crazy Redneck.

[YourGrandpa]

Says the obsessed ignorant Euro trash.

I kinda feel sorry for you. Having to live with such misplaced hatred for something you don't really understand and can never change... Sad.

Oh well, the "Euro mad" comment was still funny.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Yeah...I feel sorry for me, too. Living my life, never having to worry if some nutter will shoot me, never having the kind of fear yanks live in everyday. The kind of fear that makes you go out and buy a gun for protection. I'll never read the weekly news reports of mass shootings happening in Canada.

And yes..you're 100% completely correct: I don't understand it. Nobody does except for gun-nut yanks.

Is it any surprise that in the last 12 years or so of arguing this same stupid argument over and over that it has always been ONLY gwamps and NightShitHead defending it? Is anyone shocked at all? Is anyone shocked at all that the thread that gets gwamps out of his self-imposed exile from this forum are threads with arguments about gun control in them? Is it a shock to anyone that I support gun ownership for hunting and recreation, but don't support it for personal protection and yet that's enough to get both those idiots raging at me?

Nah...me neither.

[Nightshade]

I'm not even going to respond to this moronic drivel. I have explained everything that you're commenting about in the past - all of it - over and over again. And as to my "Yeah sure" comment...it means no argument on your point. It means we agree on it. But you're gonna argue it anyways. Because someone dared question the utter lack of responsibility your whole country has had in its entire history of gun violence. And because you are one of those idiots that chant "USA! USA! USA!" the instant you hear it.

You are so flustered and angry you don't care to see the point I've tried to make over and over and over again while explaining it 30 different ways. It's like talking to a Downs victim.

Of course you won't, because you can't. You keep proving that, and I'm seriously not trying to be flippant here.

All you're doing is making stuff up. I have never, EVER said anything to give anyone the impression that I'm some sort of nationalistic loon. I'm not flustered, nor am I angry, these are excuses that you're making for yourself because you have no ability to address anything I've said. You're not making a point, you're just slinging shit. You're using a large number of words to say absolutely nothing. I asked you a very specific question, one that to my recollection I've not asked you before, and you give me some generalities and insults.

OK, have fun with all that.

[GONNAFISTYA]

Of course you won't, because you can't. You keep proving that, and I'm seriously not trying to be flippant here.

I can and I have. You and your crazy friends are brick walls and I'm not going to have the same argument for the 50th time. You're a fucking headcase and I'm not going to be polite about it anymore.

[Captain]

no allegiance to any country

L-O-L

[GONNAFISTYA]

So Crazy Redneck-angry he actually made a thread asking why everyone calls him Crazy Redneck. Because he's too stupid to figure out that he's a Crazy Redneck. [/url]

Says the obsessed ignorant Euro trash.

No, says the internet...

A Thread By Gwamps

[Nightshade]

I can and I have. You and your crazy friends are brick walls and I'm not going to have the same argument for the 50th time. You're a fucking headcase and I'm not going to be polite about it anymore.

No, you really haven't. You can keep saying it, but it won't make it true.

I'm a nutcase? Ok, you can tell yourself whatever you need to, I really don't care. The fact remains that you aren't doing anything other than yelling a lot. Eraser, Chunk, etc., they have very different opinions than I do on this subject, yet you're the only one that's flipping out, slinging shit, and not making anything even resembling a rational argument. But, if you need to cover that up by saying things like "I've answered that/you're a brick wall/random poor insult", well then do what makes you happy. Just don't pretend that you've been engaging in anything like a reasonable discussion, because you haven't.

lol..."50th time" Dumbass.

[Nightshade]

Yeah...I feel sorry for me, too. Living my life, never having to worry if some nutter will shoot me, never having the kind of fear yanks live in everyday. The kind of fear that makes you go out and buy a gun for protection. I'll never read the weekly news reports of mass shootings happening in Canada.

I don't have that sort of fear and no one I know does, either. Stop basing all of your opinions on what you see in the sensationalist media.

So funny to see you freak out and do nothing but sling insults at me based on nothing more than the fact that I disagree with you and point out that you're not having a debate, you're just screaming bullshit.

[GONNAFISTYA]

I can and I have. You and your crazy friends are brick walls and I'm not going to have the same argument for the 50th time. You're a fucking headcase and I'm not going to be polite about it anymore.

No, you really haven't. You can keep saying it, but it won't make it true.

I'm a nutcase? Ok, you can tell yourself whatever you need to, I really don't care. The fact remains that you aren't doing anything other than yelling a lot. Eraser, Chunk, etc., they have very different opinions than I do on this subject, yet you're the only one that's flipping out, slinging shit, and not making anything even resembling a rational argument. But, if you need to cover that up by saying things like "I've answered that/you're a brick wall/random poor insult", well then do what makes you happy. Just don't pretend that you've been engaging in anything like a reasonable discussion, because you haven't.

lol..."50th time" Dumbass.

Are you really that fucking stupid to forget the billion gun discussions we've had on this board? Are you really that fucking stupid to think that just because I'm sick and tired of digging up old quotes that we've never discussed it? Are you really that fucking stupid to think that if I did dig up all that shit and present it (once again) to you that you would not want to STILL have this argument? You can sit there and say I've never talked about it or argued with you directly about it. Go right ahead you stupid cunt.

[GONNAFISTYA]

So funny to see you freak out and do nothing but sling insults at me based on nothing more than the fact that I disagree with you and point out that you're not having a debate, you're just screaming bullshit.

lol the guy who calls himself the insult-o-matic complaining about insults. Insulting me and anyone else who was dumb enough to discuss this with you and you complaining about insults.

No wonder your ex cheated on you and divorced your crazy ass.

Call me fat.

[seremtan]

wow

i make a serious point about the ames story that isn't all grr grr angry and everyone just wants to ragepost as usual. no wonder these threads disappear straight down the toilet bowl

[EtUL]

dickwaving. they haven't even been discussing anything, just trading insults and hypotheticals

[seremtan]

EURO mad. LOL!!!

pretty sure the Lard Zeppelin is canadian

i guess that's like a kind of north american european in your book (except for alberta)

[Nightshade]

lol the guy who calls himself the insult-o-matic complaining about insults. Insulting me and anyone else who was dumb enough to discuss this with you and you complaining about insults.

No wonder your ex cheated on you and divorced your crazy ass.

Call me fat.

Aww, it really looks like I hit a nerve there. I could be wrong here, but I seem to recall trying to do nothing more than trade a friendly jibe here and there and it was you that really started slinging shit. That may not be a perfect recollection, but I think it's a good bit closer to reality than this fantasy you've constructed. Now, do you have any other sad attempts at personal insults or is that the best you can do?

And you say that I'm angry...

[Nightshade]

dickwaving. they haven't even been discussing anything, just trading insults and hypotheticals

I actually have been discussing this issue with the rational people in this thread (e.g. Eraser and Chunk), we just can't count GFY among that group.