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Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:50 am
by Transient
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... a-shooting
Even though these everyday shootings rarely come up in the national debate about gun control, the evidence is actually strongest for stricter gun laws preventing the more common shootings, including suicides. In fact, the empirical evidence is weaker for the effect of gun control on the mass shootings that do draw national attention — largely because these tragedies are relatively rare and therefore more difficult to study.

A recent review of US-based studies by the RAND Corporation, for example, found no good evidence of gun-related policies affecting mass shootings, deeming the studies in this area “inconclusive.” But RAND did find evidence that some measures — background checks, child access prevention laws, minimum age requirements, and prohibitions associated with mental illness — are all together linked to reductions in injuries and deaths, including the more typical gun homicides and suicides.

The RAND review’s conclusions are backed by other research. A 2016 review of 130 studies in 10 countries, published in Epidemiologic Reviews, found that new legal restrictions on owning and purchasing guns tended to be followed by a drop in gun violence — a strong indicator that restricting access to firearms can save lives. But those findings were for gun deaths broadly, with mass shootings rarely being the focus of the analyzed studies.

One could still infer from this evidence that stricter gun laws will reduce mass shooting deaths, but it’s an inference from the data, not a strong empirical finding. Meanwhile, the research indicates that stricter gun laws really could help prevent more shootings like that in Liberty City over the weekend — even though gun control is rarely brought up nationally after such events.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:00 am
by SOAPboy
Also in 2013, Koper reviewed the literature on the ban's effects and concluded that its effects on crimes committed with assault weapons were mixed due to its various loopholes. He also concluded that the ban did not seem to affect gun crime rates, but may have been able to reduce shootings if it had been renewed in 2004
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_A ... eapons_Ban (pretty sure thats from the same thing we're talking about in 2013)

*shrug*


Seems like most things say bans are good and would work, if done right.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 1:17 am
by Transient
They should be locked up at a gun range and you should need a license to be able to use one.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:19 am
by SOAPboy
Transient wrote:They should be locked up at a gun range and you should need a license to be able to use one.
Yep, and I still don't have a problem with an actual bolt action hunting rifle, or shotgun. Even some of the pistols.

But any of that crazy shit? Newp. Gun ranges and thats it. They should not be in the hands of civs all free willy nilly though.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:51 pm
by Κracus
Gwamps in a nutshell...

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Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 4:04 pm
by YourGrandpa
Calm down Karcass.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:16 pm
by Κracus
I couldn't help it. You just seem to always pick the most ridiculous stances. Like the whole riding without a helmet is safer one. I could respect your opinion if it was something like, "I just like the feeling of riding with no helmet even though it's dangerous." Instead, you go with some somersault mental gymnastics that's it's safer because it doesn't hinder your vision and hearing. Same with gun laws, you could just say you like your fancy guns and don't want to give em up. Instead you argue that banning them won't help without a shred of evidence to support your claims. You're like that guy, getting upset, doing stupid shit and then getting mad that you're doing something kinda moronic.

/shrug You do you fam.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 12:03 am
by YourGrandpa
Sorry you're having such a difficult time following along.

However, you are that guy who likes to pretend he's done or knows something about everything. Which means your thoughts, opinions or input on pretty much anything are disregarded by everyone.

Feels bad man...

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 8:40 am
by Doombrain
Jesus, enough.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:40 pm
by Κracus
YourGrandpa wrote:Sorry you're having such a difficult time following along.

However, you are that guy who likes to pretend he's done or knows something about everything. Which means your thoughts, opinions or input on pretty much anything are disregarded by everyone.

Feels bad man...
I'm ok with that knowing it's just your opinion.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 3:57 pm
by YourGrandpa
Since multiple people have said it, it's not just my opinion.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:11 pm
by Κracus
I'm ok with that knowing it's just people on this forums opinions.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:41 pm
by YourGrandpa
But just like it isn't only me, its probably not just the people here.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 5:03 pm
by Κracus
Compared to you I'm a fucking rocket scientist so I'd be careful how low you set that bar if I were you.

Re: This time it wasn't a school

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2018 6:18 pm
by YourGrandpa
Yeah, pretty sure it's not only here. :olo: