Did you feel his monster?
Oh goddamnit, I'm going to study Japanese. fuck u...
as u can see...karl rove will be arrested soon...
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Nightshade
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Freakaloin
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lol...
23: Number of times McClellan could’t answer a question because the Rove investigation is “ongoing.”
10: Number of times McClellan couldn’t answer a question because it was “related” to the investigation or in the “context” of the investigation.
16: Number of times McClellan said he just wouldn’t “comment” on a question.
5: Number of times McClellan assured reporters he “appreciates the questions” about Rove’s involvement in the Plame case.
8: Number of times McClellan told reporters he and the president were “helping” the investigation with their silence.
8: Number of times McClellan said he and President Bush want to “get to the bottom of this.”
3: Number of times McClellan said he and the president planned to “cooperate fully” with the investigation by not answering questions.
10: Number of times McClellan claimed he’d already “responded” to a reporter’s question.
23: Number of times McClellan could’t answer a question because the Rove investigation is “ongoing.”
10: Number of times McClellan couldn’t answer a question because it was “related” to the investigation or in the “context” of the investigation.
16: Number of times McClellan said he just wouldn’t “comment” on a question.
5: Number of times McClellan assured reporters he “appreciates the questions” about Rove’s involvement in the Plame case.
8: Number of times McClellan told reporters he and the president were “helping” the investigation with their silence.
8: Number of times McClellan said he and President Bush want to “get to the bottom of this.”
3: Number of times McClellan said he and the president planned to “cooperate fully” with the investigation by not answering questions.
10: Number of times McClellan claimed he’d already “responded” to a reporter’s question.
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PHILAMONSTER
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yeah i own that. first time i saw it was when i was 4. that was the beginning of the end for me :icon26:saturn wrote:neh, I read lots of other english literature. I might have seen the animated movie.PHILAMONSTER wrote:prince with a thousand enemies.saturn wrote:so how the fuck did you pick the "proverbial" nick prince1000 for many years?
ever read watership down?
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Freakaloin
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Joe Wilson was a US ambassador to several countries in Africa, among other things. He was very experienced in their affairs. In the beginning of the build-up to war, Bush & Co. come up with these papers claiming they're proof that Saddam had tried to buy uranium from Niger.
They wanted to find somebody who could go to Niger and verify their claims. Valerie Plame, Wilson's wife, was a covert CIA operative doing hands-on work in WMD anti-proliferation. She recommended him. He was more than qualified to check out the claims in Niger, due to his extensive time and contacts in the region.
Unfortunately there was a disconnect somewhere, because Wilson actually investigated the legitimacy of the documents, as opposed to just verifying them. He found out they were forgeries (my guess is the Chalabi group or the Libby/Feith group had them concocted). He told the White House as much, and what did they do? A few days later, they used this 'Niger-Yellowcake' connection to make one of their biggest official justifications for starting a war with Iraq.
After that, Wilson went to press with what he found from his trip. After he told the public that Bush's claims were completely unsubstantiated, and that Bush knew as much when he made the claims, then *someone* leaked Wilson's wife's name to the press.
I hear a lot of people spinning this to the tune that Rove only dropped her relationship and position to Cooper (and whoever else), so he could let people know that Joe Wilson wasn't qualified to ever have gone on the trip to begin with. i.e. "See -- his own wife got him the job because of her connections, he should have never even been on the assignment."
But that's pure BS. He worked for more than one administration dealing with sensitive issues in Africa, including Bush Senior's administration. He was plenty qualified to go to Niger and talk to their government and decide whether some governmental documents were authentic or not. Rove and BushCo are just throwing another tantrum because somebody didn't act the way they were supposed to. Except it's a treasonous tantrum that fits right in with all the other irreparable damages he's done to our country.
This whole gang of thugs deserves nothing better than a cold stone slab for life in my opinion, but whether any of his exploits will ever be common knowledge or not depends on our mainstream press.... Who depend on "official government sources" for all their news to begin with. So do you laugh or do you cry? :icon22:
edit: Here is "What I Didn't Find in Africa," by Joseph Wilson:
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/pri ... 706-02.htm
They wanted to find somebody who could go to Niger and verify their claims. Valerie Plame, Wilson's wife, was a covert CIA operative doing hands-on work in WMD anti-proliferation. She recommended him. He was more than qualified to check out the claims in Niger, due to his extensive time and contacts in the region.
Unfortunately there was a disconnect somewhere, because Wilson actually investigated the legitimacy of the documents, as opposed to just verifying them. He found out they were forgeries (my guess is the Chalabi group or the Libby/Feith group had them concocted). He told the White House as much, and what did they do? A few days later, they used this 'Niger-Yellowcake' connection to make one of their biggest official justifications for starting a war with Iraq.
After that, Wilson went to press with what he found from his trip. After he told the public that Bush's claims were completely unsubstantiated, and that Bush knew as much when he made the claims, then *someone* leaked Wilson's wife's name to the press.
I hear a lot of people spinning this to the tune that Rove only dropped her relationship and position to Cooper (and whoever else), so he could let people know that Joe Wilson wasn't qualified to ever have gone on the trip to begin with. i.e. "See -- his own wife got him the job because of her connections, he should have never even been on the assignment."
But that's pure BS. He worked for more than one administration dealing with sensitive issues in Africa, including Bush Senior's administration. He was plenty qualified to go to Niger and talk to their government and decide whether some governmental documents were authentic or not. Rove and BushCo are just throwing another tantrum because somebody didn't act the way they were supposed to. Except it's a treasonous tantrum that fits right in with all the other irreparable damages he's done to our country.
This whole gang of thugs deserves nothing better than a cold stone slab for life in my opinion, but whether any of his exploits will ever be common knowledge or not depends on our mainstream press.... Who depend on "official government sources" for all their news to begin with. So do you laugh or do you cry? :icon22:
edit: Here is "What I Didn't Find in Africa," by Joseph Wilson:
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/pri ... 706-02.htm
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GONNAFISTYA
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GONNAFISTYA
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Read the fucking posts above by ROOk or others on previous pages that explain it.zeeko wrote:can somebody explain in like a paragraph wtf this is about? i saw them talking about rove on teh news but i came in way too late in the game and i don't really get it... what did the cia do
Sound bite nation.
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Freakaloin
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owned...
Q No, you're not finishing -- you're not saying anything. You stood at that podium and said that Karl Rove was not involved. And now we find out that he spoke out about Joseph Wilson's wife. So don't you owe the American public a fuller explanation? Was he involved, or was he not? Because, contrary to what you told the American people, he did, indeed, talk about his wife, didn't he?
MR. McCLELLAN: David, there will be a time to talk about this, but now is not the time to talk about it.
Q No, you're not finishing -- you're not saying anything. You stood at that podium and said that Karl Rove was not involved. And now we find out that he spoke out about Joseph Wilson's wife. So don't you owe the American public a fuller explanation? Was he involved, or was he not? Because, contrary to what you told the American people, he did, indeed, talk about his wife, didn't he?
MR. McCLELLAN: David, there will be a time to talk about this, but now is not the time to talk about it.
a defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence...
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Freakaloin
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he's going down...hate wrote:hate wrote:nothing will happen.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/12/polit ... UJhqVx+9bg
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Freakaloin
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lol...scott stonewalling yesterday was more bs...they are not under orders not to talk about the case...they can say whatever they want...close inspection of the wording from the gaggle proves it...this whole admin talks the same...
“The prosecutors overseeing the investigation had expressed a preference to us that one way to help the investigation is not to be commenting on it from this podium.”
“That’s something that the people overseeing the investigation have expressed a preference that we follow. And that’s why we’re continuing to follow that approach and that policy.”
“There came a point when the investigation got underway when those overseeing the investigation asked that it would be their — or said that it would be their preference that we not get into discussing it while it is ongoing.”
“Well, those overseeing the investigation expressed a preference to us that we not get into commenting on the investigation while it’s ongoing. And that was what they requested of the White House.”
“I think probably more than one individual who’s involved in overseeing the investigation had expressed a preference that we not get into commenting on the investigation while it’s ongoing.”
“The prosecutors overseeing the investigation had expressed a preference to us that one way to help the investigation is not to be commenting on it from this podium.”
“That’s something that the people overseeing the investigation have expressed a preference that we follow. And that’s why we’re continuing to follow that approach and that policy.”
“There came a point when the investigation got underway when those overseeing the investigation asked that it would be their — or said that it would be their preference that we not get into discussing it while it is ongoing.”
“Well, those overseeing the investigation expressed a preference to us that we not get into commenting on the investigation while it’s ongoing. And that was what they requested of the White House.”
“I think probably more than one individual who’s involved in overseeing the investigation had expressed a preference that we not get into commenting on the investigation while it’s ongoing.”
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The dishes are piling up.
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Freakaloin
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ok now i get it. that's this valerie plame chicktnf wrote:That's the long and short of it.Dave wrote:he leaked the name of a cia spook to the press
The CIA spook was the wife of a guy (was he a congressman, senator, or what?) who had written an op-ed piece that totally discounted all the bullshit evidence BUsh used in his 2002 speech leading up to the war in Iraq (like his deal about Iraq trying to get uranium from Niger). Most likely, the actions of the people leaking his wife's name right after he put out that story were vindictive in nature...probably trying to get him off the administration's case...or something.
lol, this all sounds like some imperial court machinations, like something the borgias would do only without the public disembowelling
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http://www.gop.com/News/Read.aspx?ID=5623
O M G holy spin
note the from The Wall Street Journal at the top
O M G holy spin
note the from The Wall Street Journal at the top
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Freakaloin
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Freakaloin
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as u can see....I'M ALWAYS RIGHT...any questions?
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/30/ ... index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/30/ ... index.html
a defining attribute of a government is that it has a monopoly on the legitimate exercise of violence...